The French are the only reason that the US achieved independence from Great Britain

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Well, let's be accurate....

The Bourbon Monarchy of France were the guns, powder, navy, and training behind the American revolution. They didn't save our buns--they WERE our buns.

But let's see.


The Bourbon monarchy fell to revolution, calling itself the First French Republic.

The revolutionary government fell to itself several times.

The last of the revolutionary governments fell to Napoleon's little coup, founding the First French Empire.

Napoleon was defeated in Russia, then toppled and overthrown at the Battle of Nations. After exile, return, re-revolution, and re-defeat at Waterloo, he was exiled [permanently this time!], and replaced by the Bourbon Resoration.

The Bourbon Restoration was overthrown in 1832, in favor of Louis Phillippe, the Orlean Monarchy.

The Orlean Monarchy was overthrown in 1848, and replaced by the Second French Republic.

The Second French Republic elected Napoleon III, who promptly overthrew himself, and founded the Second French Empire.

The Second French Empire was beaten like a redheaded stepchild by Otto von Bismarck's Prussia-cum-German-Empire [one cum joke and I scream!], and replaced by the Third French Republic.

The Third French Republic was beaten like a redheaded stepchild by Adolf Hitler's Germany. [When you lost to an Austrian, you KNOW you suck] The French Vichy Regime took over, there, as a Nazi ally.

The Vichy Regime fell to the Allies, who set up the Fourth French Republic.

The Fourth French Republic fell for no good reason, and was replaced by the Fifth French Republic.



With the exception of 4th to 5th, every new government in the paragraphs above disavowed the actions of the immediately previous one [and sometimes even further than that; this disavowal does NOT include a disavowal of the disavowals. That's just silly].

In other words, we owe the Bourbon Monarchy alot. Too bad they're LONG gone.
 
You forgot...we had the desire!

We drafted the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution, We took the chances, and not to mention we provided the example to France to have their revolution after ours concluded.
Just like in Iraq, once the American framework is laid, others will follow.

France has settled into it's pitiful senility, while we're still the new kid on the block with innovation, and unlike France, our revolution continues!

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Re: The French are the only reason that the US achieved independence from Great Britain

ubertroll said:
Well, let's be accurate....

The Bourbon Monarchy of France were the guns, powder, navy, and training behind the American revolution. They didn't save our buns--they WERE our buns.

But let's see.


The Bourbon monarchy fell to revolution, calling itself the First French Republic.

The revolutionary government fell to itself several times.

The last of the revolutionary governments fell to Napoleon's little coup, founding the First French Empire.

Napoleon was defeated in Russia, then toppled and overthrown at the Battle of Nations. After exile, return, re-revolution, and re-defeat at Waterloo, he was exiled [permanently this time!], and replaced by the Bourbon Resoration.

The Bourbon Restoration was overthrown in 1832, in favor of Louis Phillippe, the Orlean Monarchy.

The Orlean Monarchy was overthrown in 1848, and replaced by the Second French Republic.

The Second French Republic elected Napoleon III, who promptly overthrew himself, and founded the Second French Empire.

The Second French Empire was beaten like a redheaded stepchild by Otto von Bismarck's Prussia-cum-German-Empire [one cum joke and I scream!], and replaced by the Third French Republic.

The Third French Republic was beaten like a redheaded stepchild by Adolf Hitler's Germany. [When you lost to an Austrian, you KNOW you suck] The French Vichy Regime took over, there, as a Nazi ally.

The Vichy Regime fell to the Allies, who set up the Fourth French Republic.

The Fourth French Republic fell for no good reason, and was replaced by the Fifth French Republic.



With the exception of 4th to 5th, every new government in the paragraphs above disavowed the actions of the immediately previous one [and sometimes even further than that; this disavowal does NOT include a disavowal of the disavowals. That's just silly].

In other words, we owe the Bourbon Monarchy alot. Too bad they're LONG gone.

I think you missed the 100 years war and a few other times the Froggies got too big for their boots so the Germans had to come over and kick the shit out of them again.... and again.
Herr Krupp built an empire manufacturing weapons to kill Frenchmen.
 
... and they sold us the Midwest to finance YET ANOTHER European war which is why we are waiting for THAT continent to experience 100 years without trying to kill each other before we listen to their advice on how to run our affairs...
 
SIN'til8? said:
... and they sold us the Midwest to finance YET ANOTHER European war which is why we are waiting for THAT continent to experience 100 years without trying to kill each other before we listen to their advice on how to run our affairs...

Nobody really cares how you run your affairs internally. It is how you interefere in other peoples affairs that gets people backs up.

Who really needs a standing army of 3 million for defense when nobody is a serious threat. These excursions into other countries are just training ops to maintain morale among the troops with a side benefit of corporate growth.
 
Tell me exactly when it was that Europe decided to stop meddling in the affairs of other countries...

'Cause I missed THAT memo!
 
For example, what exactly were France, Germany, and Russia doing in Iraq violating ALL THOSE UN sanctions?
 
Re: You forgot...we had the desire!

Lost Cause said:
Just like in Iraq, once the American framework is laid, others will follow.


I thought you guys were in Iraq 20 years ago laying the framework by cementing Saddam Hussein into power.

What makes us expect any better results this time? These countries have managed their own affairs forever so the US will only change that with constant military control for a puppet government. That isnt real.
 
We were busy keeping you out from under the Soviet Umbrella fool...
 
SIN'til8? said:
Tell me exactly when it was that Europe decided to stop meddling in the affairs of other countries...

'Cause I missed THAT memo!

It seems to be a privilege that superpowers give themselves... to do what the fuck they want .
 
SIN'til8? said:
I miss nuke drills, hiding under your second-grade desk...

Yep, but you didn't have to sit around trying to figure out who your enemies are.

An the Olympics have sucked since Ronny and Gorby made all nicey-nice.
 
SIN'til8? said:
We were busy keeping you out from under the Soviet Umbrella fool...

THe US is the one with a paranoia about communism.
Communist parties operate in many European countries on an equal opportunity basis and even occassionaly get someone elected. True democracy allows freedom of thought and people can be trusted to choose what is best for them. Somehow, in a consumer society, communism just doesnt cut it in popularity.
 
SIN'til8? said:
And why couldn't Europe handle Kosavo on its own?

Because the UN was the appropriate forum for this problem. That is one reason it exosts.
 
Lasher said:


An the Olympics have sucked since Ronny and Gorby made all nicey-nice.

I think the Olympics have sucked since the Russians stopped reproducing Andre the Giant as female atheltes:D
 
Hey! you forgot...

U.N. dealing with Ruwanda....how many dead, 600,000?

Sierra Leone?

Kosovo?

Ghana?

How about Chirac telling the newly free warsaw pact countries to mind their place when voicing support for the U.S.?

Napoleon, Stalin, and Hitler never died, they are reincarnated in the laws and business of the French/EU Reich leadership!
 
I'm hoping we don't have another Munich Olympics.

Did you see the news that Iraqi athletes are in training for the Olympics?

It's hard to keep good news and good men down!
 
woody54 said:
Because the UN was the appropriate forum for this problem. That is one reason it exosts.

Because you don't have the resources and the UN is the only way you can get your hands on the US military which Europe loves, but only when IT'S in charge of it...
 
Let's face the truth. The only reason Russia, France, and Germany have half-decent economies is because we're picking up their defense tab...
 
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