The Evaluation

[Dirty_Old_Pervert]

It is a male-dominant dystopia, the most desirable of the jobs that are available to women are given to the women who are the most attractive. But to ensure that the most attractive females are chosen for the best jobs, we need an objective way to measure attractiveness.

Every girl, when she turns 18 and becomes eligible for employment, must report to the City Hall where she, along with all of the other 18-year-old girls in her community, is loaded onto a bus and taken to a Regional Evaluation Centre. There, busses from all of the towns in the area unload their girls into a large warehouse-type area, where each girl is stripped nude, and a barcode is tattooed onto her ass with her identifying information.

There, the girls spend the day being herded from one Evaluation station to another within this warehouse, and at each station a male Evaluator performs one humiliating test or another. One might check each girl to see if she is a virgin, another might measure her breasts, or the size of her nipples. Another might check the shape of her ass. Et cetera. With each measurement, her barcode gets scanned, and a notation gets made on the clipboard. Based on the results of this evaluation, each girl is ultimately assigned a numeric score, which will determine her prospects for the rest of her life.

So that is the setting -- what I need now is a story. Any thoughts?

 

[Bigsexynipples]

great idea for a story..i really like!!!
i would also add- the registry should have more details- such as the type of the labia- if they are protruding, the type of the clitoris( big,small, shy etc)..also how long they take to have an orgasm from oral stimulation( in minutes), how long it takes them to have an orgasm from penetration, are they multiorgasmic..are they loud when they orgasm( the noise level), what kind of stimulation has been proven to work best/fastest.
can they orgasm from nipple stimulation only..also masturbation techniques and the preferred ones..
what type of porn are they into, what type of fantasies gets them going..

i guess that would also mean there were some experienced men present at those camp to test all of that, sexually experienced versed in being with multiple women with the goal of making them cum and then recording the experiences for the database.

once all the info is gathered, it could be used for the good of men, who would have a full profile of a woman they interested in and could play on them to their satisfaction.

the more i think about it, the more i d love to be in this database!

 

[gunhilltrain]

Dirty_Old_Pervert: Wow, you joined yesterday? That's okay, we all have to start somewhere. But instead of going on about your fantasy, with all due respect, why don't you try writing it and then asking for feedback on that board after it's published?

 

[gunhilltrain]

great idea for a story..i really like!!!
i would also add- the registry should have more details- such as the type of the labia- if they are protruding, the type of the clitoris( big,small, shy etc)..also how long they take to have an orgasm from oral stimulation( in minutes), how long it takes them to have an orgasm from penetration, are they multiorgasmic..are they loud when they orgasm( the noise level), what kind of stimulation has been proven to work best/fastest.
can they orgasm from nipple stimulation only..also masturbation techniques and the preferred ones..
what type of porn are they into, what type of fantasies gets them going..

i guess that would also mean there were some experienced men present at those camp to test all of that, sexually experienced versed in being with multiple women with the goal of making them cum and then recording the experiences for the database.

once all the info is gathered, it could be used for the good of men, who would have a full profile of a woman they interested in and could play on them to their satisfaction.

the more i think about it, the more i d love to be in this database!

Just curious: how old are you? How would you feel about still being in this database twenty years from now?

 

[BoundaryWaters]

“- Gen. 'Buck' Turgidson: Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?

- Dr. Strangelove: Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.

- Russian Ambassador Alexi de Sadesky: I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor.”

GEORGE C. SCOTT - Gen. 'Buck' Turgidson
PETER SELLERS - Dr. Strangelove
PETER BULL - Russian Ambassador Alexi de Sadesky

-- Dr. Strangelove Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)

 

[Dirty_Old_Pervert]

Dirty_Old_Pervert: Wow, you joined yesterday? That's okay, we all have to start somewhere. But instead of going on about your fantasy, with all due respect, why don't you try writing it and then asking for feedback on that board after it's published?

I currently have one story pending, a couple more I am editing, and a number if ideas that have evolved to a point where I am ready to make them into stories. So, don't worry, you will see my writings soon if you are interested in them. I hope you enjoy them.

The reason I have not turned this particular fantasy into a story is because while I formed an idea of what the setting and background might look like, I do not yet have an actual STORY -- meaning who the characters are and what they want, the plot, or even the conflict. I have a setting, just not yet what actually happens within that setting.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I currently have one story pending, a couple more I am editing, and a number if ideas that have evolved to a point where I am ready to make them into stories. So, don't worry, you will see my writings soon if you are interested in them. I hope you enjoy them.

The reason I have not turned this particular fantasy into a story is because while I formed an idea of what the setting and background might look like, I do not yet have an actual STORY -- meaning who the characters are and what they want, the plot, or even the conflict. I have a setting, just not yet what actually happens within that setting.

You have some questions ponder in this scenario. How did this dystopia come about? Or is it taking place on some completely different historical timeline than ours?

The setting seems to resemble the modern (industrial, technological) world we live in now, and the trends in gender relations in that world have basically been the complete opposite of what you're proposing here. For one thing, the system here contains the seeds of its own dysfunction because it is selecting employees based on their looks rather than their competence.

Or is that the point of it, to push women back into traditional roles and reduce the total amount of paid female employment? Or maybe in your world most of them never left those roles?

Since you are proposing a science fiction story, I'd call it, it has to be more than titillating - it has to make some kind of internal sense within its own framework.

 

[LupusDei]

You have some questions ponder in this scenario. How did this dystopia come about? Or is it taking place on some completely different historical timeline than ours?

The setting seems to resemble the modern (industrial, technological) world we live in now, and the trends in gender relations in that world have basically been the complete opposite of what you're proposing here. For one thing, the system here contains the seeds of its own dysfunction because it is selecting employees based on their looks rather than their competence.

Or is that the point of it, to push women back into traditional roles and reduce the total amount of paid female employment? Or maybe in your world most of them never left those roles?

Since you are proposing a science fiction story, I'd call it, it has to be more than titillating - it has to make some kind of internal sense within its own framework.

I for one am totally titillated by rapey institutional rules on their own value. It's a guilty pleasure. I like to play with those, take them to the point of logical absurdity and then feel bad for ever entertaining the obvious intentional horror. Then, the human story set in such circumstances could be plenty titillating for at least a distant observer, and potentially also through the hero identification, if not otherwise then given certain inclinations (objectification and humiliation are kinks with dual power of titillation working from both POV over the same material, even if in wastly different ways).

How a world as proposed by the OP could have come along? I think, while it could be on a different timeline with less overall human rights established, this particular system could rather be relatively sudden reactionary success of the incels, "pro-lifers" bible fascists and similar crowds finding common ground in overt misogyny among other exploits on top of democracy failure we're experiencing. However, extreme conservative control is only one, even if the most obvious route. Probably fastest way to get there from here is a couple of extreme political swings where each side introduce measures the other intentionally sabotage, pervert and subvert hoping to show opposition in the worst light possible.

So give it a couple a decades of tightening the screws by minority rule. There's no reason why the centralized evaluation system shouldn't have been universal initially, or even be still, it might be only later diverging sharply by gender, possibly reaching the extreme abuse levels as current for the story only relatively recently. There's also no reason to think that the underlying world order is stable and lasting, even if it needs to be perceived as such by the girls being stripped, it could as well be very near where the bullshit reaches the breaking point.

For the maximum contract, the background world should be uptight, privacy obsessed, extremely prudish society at face value, but obviously decadent and perverse behind closed doors. Competence and competitiveness (by all means necessary) is for men. Women are included in the workforce, but generally perceived as eye candy (and are increasingly reduced back to being perceived as property by men). Professional competency in a woman is a nice bonus, obviously, but not required, nor extremely important. I would still include powerful women present, even probably involved with the said evaluation system (in possibly most cruel roles even) but it would implied most of those are in fact relics of bygone era, and/or extreme outliers mastered the playbook of reaching independent (and/or not really independent) success in male dominated society.

 

[gunhilltrain]

LupusDei: you seem to have a better grasp of how this should go than the OP. You sure you don't want to take a crack at it?

His concept reminds me a bit of Brave New World, except is that society, everybody is not merely evaluated, but genetically created to fit into certain roles. Huxley doesn't explain exactly how that came to be, but since he sets it in, I think, the year 2540, the reader can assume that it is the result of five centuries of technological advancement (or regression, depending on how you look at it).

Your concept seems to be on a shorter-time scale, and depends on some kind of political upheaval, I guess. Such things have happened in history before (Spain in the 1930s, Chile in the 1970s). Now that I think of it, the Nazis had some rather retrograde ideas about gender relations.

Anyway, as you might have guessed, I'm not one of those people who is "totally titillated by rapey institutional rules on their own value." That's why I suggested that you might be the one to write a version of this since it seems to grab your imagination.

 

[Wifetheif]

Check out my story "The Assessment" It has many of the features you describe but is far less degrading and more sexually rewarding for all involved. Brief synopsis, Conservative society assesses wives as though they were property. The higher your wife scores, the lower your taxes. After the first year and every five years after that, she spends a week with the assessor. This is the story of an especially shy and sheltered wife's first time.


https://www.literotica.com/s/the-assessment-2

 

[Dirty_Old_Pervert]

You have some questions ponder in this scenario. How did this dystopia come about? Or is it taking place on some completely different historical timeline than ours?

The setting seems to resemble the modern (industrial, technological) world we live in now, and the trends in gender relations in that world have basically been the complete opposite of what you're proposing here. For one thing, the system here contains the seeds of its own dysfunction because it is selecting employees based on their looks rather than their competence.

Or is that the point of it, to push women back into traditional roles and reduce the total amount of paid female employment? Or maybe in your world most of them never left those roles?

Since you are proposing a science fiction story, I'd call it, it has to be more than titillating - it has to make some kind of internal sense within its own framework.

Yes, the story I have in mind is "science fiction" in the same sense Harrison Bergeron, Make Room Make Room, and 1984 are all science fiction. The idea is to take some feature of our current society and imagine a world that stretches that feature to absurd extremes as a vehicle to critique it. This story would be critiquing:

1. The practice of judging women based on their looks rather than their competence. It is a real thing that happens all the time in the real world, and it is absurd.

2. The idea that there is some objective measurable standard of beauty. That there is an ideal breast size, a perfect lip colour, or an ass shape that is better than any other ass shape. How many women spend absurd amounts of time and money dieting, exercising, applying makeup, or getting plastic surgery so they will more closely resemble someone who has been arbitrarily designated as a "supermodel" by the powers-that-be?

Furthermore, how many times have we, as men, been told that one woman is "beautiful" and another "homely" while thinking those designations make no sense. I used to watch WKRP in Cincinnati (yes, there is a reason "old" is in my handle), and I never understood why the characters on that show seemed to take it as a given that Jennifer was "beautiful" in contrast to the supposedly more homely Bailey. I always thought Bailey was by far the more attractive of the two women. I also never understood how Mary Crawley from Downton Abbey was supposed to be "beautiful" in contrast to her supposedly "ugly" sister Edith. And don't get me started about Ugly Betty.

3. Even if beauty could be objectively measured, and even if it were THAT important, it is absurd to imagine that a woman's level of beauty at the age of 18 has anything to do with her level of beauty later in life. You can think of a girl's "beauty score" in this world as a surrogate for standardised testing. Whatever the SAT, GCSEs, or 11+ exams are supposed to measure, they are measuring something that (like a woman's beauty) will change over time. Thus, it is absurd for a measurement taken at one point in a person's life to follow that person around for the rest of her life and dictate what her future will look like.

Of course, in the course of all this social commentary, there is no reason not to throw in a big of fan service, sex, humiliation, and good old fashioned BDSM fun

 

[jaF0]

Any thoughts?

Sure:

It is a female-dominant dystopia, the most desirable of the jobs that are available to men are given to the men who are the most attractive. But to ensure that the most attractive males are chosen for the best jobs, we need an objective way to measure attractiveness.

Every male, when he turns 18 and becomes eligible for employment, must report to the City Hall where he, along with all of the other 18-year-old male in his community, is loaded onto a bus and taken to a Regional Evaluation Centre. There, busses from all of the towns in the area unload their males into a large warehouse-type area, where each male is stripped nude, and a barcode is tattooed onto his ass with his identifying information.

There, the males spend the day being herded from one Evaluation station to another within this warehouse, and at each station a female Evaluator performs one humiliating test or another. One might check each male to see if he is a virgin, another might measure his pecs, or the size of his nipples. Another might check the shape of his ass. Et cetera. With each measurement, her barcode gets scanned, and a notation gets made on the clipboard. Based on the results of this evaluation, each male is ultimately assigned a numeric score, which will determine his prospects for the rest of his life.

 

[jaF0]

Or maybe ....



It is a farmer-dominant dystopia, the most desirable of the jobs that are available to cattle are given to the animals who are the most healthy. But to ensure that the most healthy animals are chosen for the best jobs, we need an objective way to measure health.

Every animal, when it becomes eligible for herding, must report to the barn where it, along with all of the other cattle on the farm, is loaded onto a trailer and taken to a Regional Evaluation Centre. There, trailers from all of the farms in the area unload their cattle into a large warehouse-type area, where each one has a barcode tattooed onto it's ass with his identifying information.

There, the cattle spend the day being herded from one Evaluation station to another within this warehouse, and at each station a human Evaluator performs one humiliating test or another. One might check each cow to see if it is a virgin, another might measure the hooves, or the size of it's tail. Another might check the shape of his ass. Et cetera. With each measurement, her barcode gets scanned, and a notation gets made on the clipboard. Based on the results of this evaluation, each animal is ultimately assigned a numeric score, which will determine the prospects for the rest of its life, hamburger or milk production.

Either one is a whole lot leas assholish.

 

[jaF0]

Just ask your Mother. Or sister. Or daughter (Damn, I hope you don't have a daughter) if they like your 'idea'.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Furthermore, how many times have we, as men, been told that one woman is "beautiful" and another "homely" while thinking those designations make no sense. I used to watch WKRP in Cincinnati (yes, there is a reason "old" is in my handle), and I never understood why the characters on that show seemed to take it as a given that Jennifer was "beautiful" in contrast to the supposedly more homely Bailey. I always thought Bailey was by far the more attractive of the two women. I also never understood how Mary Crawley from Downton Abbey was supposed to be "beautiful" in contrast to her supposedly "ugly" sister Edith. And don't get me started about Ugly Betty.

There is a term called "Hollywood Ugly," that means that women who are merely "pretty" (like Bailey) get the roles of homely women. It stills holds true I think. Notice that actresses age out of their opportunities for the lead roles, while men keep going for much longer (Brad Pitt is well into his fifties).

 

[Dirty_Old_Pervert]

There is a term called "Hollywood Ugly," that means that women who are merely "pretty" (like Bailey) get the roles of homely women. It stills holds true I think. Notice that actresses age out of their opportunities for the lead roles, while men keep going for much longer (Brad Pitt is well into his fifties).

That is actually another theme I would like to see more stories explore -- ageing. It could take the form of younger women bullying older women, impervious to the fact that they will themselves inevidably suffer the same fate.

 

[LilShortie]

It’s pretty late for me, but I wanted to chime in and say that I love this idea.

The objectification of it is very hot to me. I love the idea of being forced to different stations, then having to stand there while someone “evaluates” different, specific parts of my body. Then maybe it pops up on screen showing literally where I fall in the overall rankings. I love the idea of everything being logged and ranked: eye/hair color, height, weight, leg measurements, amount of freckles, breast size, nipple size, nipple color, lip color, vaginal depth, vaginal width, nipple sensitivity, clitoral sensitivity…it could go on and on. Honestly it’s kind of fun just thinking of ideas for different tests…What else could they measure????

And of course I assume the males of the society could scroll through dozens of different options, sorting specifically by any of the above measures.

Im also really turned on by idea someone else came up with about also evaluating their bodies’ responses to different types of sexual stimulation…recording how they react to nipple stimulation, to different levels of vibration on their clits, to different sized cocks being forced into them. Naturally HD cameras would be focused directly on their faces, to record how they react.

I really like bondage so, maybee at some of the stations they’re strapped into position during the tests…you know, for safety. The test to see if she is multi-orgasmic comes to mind…

Couldn’t the story be about one girl determined to raise her social standing specifically via scoring as high as possible during this ranking?

Feel free to PM if you wanna discuss any of this further.