The Dreaded 1* Vote

[lovecraft68]

The only time I really see the bombs is contest entries. That and any regular submission sees a few early ones from the category trolls who haunt the new story lists.

Then I have my lunch time trolls between 12-1pm on any day with a new release I see a few.

These are usually countered by the good votes that follow later that night and the ensuing couple days as my regular readers find the story and vote.

It does surprise me how many people who have been here for some time really pay close attention to most votes. I guess I'm getting jaded, I don't follow that close anymore and at a point I don't even read every comment I get, especially if its on an incest story because its going to be a form of "You're a sick fuck, just die already" or "You're just the best ever" both are equally useless.

 

[TxRad]

I did note that the trolls seemed to have taken the holiday weekend off.

 

[lovecraft68]

I did note that the trolls seemed to have taken the holiday weekend off.

Their moms were making them help around the house and leave the basement for cookouts.

 

[Serafina1210]

I did note that the trolls seemed to have taken the holiday weekend off.

It's all the holiday travel. Lots of people crossing bridges--yum!

 

[Kantarii]

Their moms were making them help around the house and leave the basement for cookouts.

Fucking Basement Dwellers.... HahaKant

 

[Bramblethorn]

I did note that the trolls seemed to have taken the holiday weekend off.

For some reason that reminds me of this:

http://www.ntnews.com.au/news/only-...er-up-my-clacker/story-fnk2tg5d-1226744991457

 

[EverLux]

You have a good attitude about it and for the most part you're right, they mean nothing and the site more often than not will sweep some of them away for you.

Sorry if this has already been addressed, but a lot of the replies were very long and mathy, so I skipped over them.

I'd been wondering why my vote count would go down and my rating would go up. What determines whether or not that 1* will be swept away? Or is it just a general rule that anything below 2* gets shitcanned?

 

[lovecraft68]

Sorry if this has already been addressed, but a lot of the replies were very long and mathy, so I skipped over them.

I'd been wondering why my vote count would go down and my rating would go up. What determines whether or not that 1* will be swept away? Or is it just a general rule that anything below 2* gets shitcanned?

Its based on the site seeing the vote as suspicious. Sometimes a five can be removed if it looks like multiple votes came from the same IP or they just went to the last page and clicked.

But usually its lower votes removed and for the same reasons. There is more involved, but the site won't divulge all of what it looks for or people would manipulate them.

 

[NotWise]

The only time I really see the bombs is contest entries. That and any regular submission sees a few early ones from the category trolls who haunt the new story lists.

Then I have my lunch time trolls between 12-1pm on any day with a new release I see a few.

These are usually countered by the good votes that follow later that night and the ensuing couple days as my regular readers find the story and vote.

I've seen that pattern on my series posts. Their lowest rating usually come late in the afternoon on the day they go live. Should I question the character of people who hang out and hit all the new stories as soon as they come up?

 

[TxRad]

I've seen that pattern on my series posts. Their lowest rating usually come late in the afternoon on the day they go live. Should I question the character of people who hang out and hit all the new stories as soon as they come up?

I can almost set my watch by the three 1* votes at 9am the first day I have a story come out. Trolls are creatures of habit.

 

[Kantarii]

I can almost set my watch by the three 1* votes at 9am the first day I have a story come out. Trolls are creatures of habit.

Hahaha..... I got better things to do than troll & down vote all new stories being posted. I'm too busy working on a new chapter soon as my previous one posts

 

[lovecraft68]

I've seen that pattern on my series posts. Their lowest rating usually come late in the afternoon on the day they go live. Should I question the character of people who hang out and hit all the new stories as soon as they come up?

I think using the word character on them is giving them more credit than they deserve.

 

[scouries]

Yes ladies and gentlemen there are stories that deserve 1's and 2's

[QUOTE KINTARII]I only use the (2,3,& 4) votes. Why? 1 & 5 are extremes. Is someone actually that horrible or great of a writer? Are children writing here? Is Stephen King writing here. The answer is "no".

I'm willing to bet less than 1% of the members here on this site are writer enthusiasts and consider themselves writers. The other 99% are various levels of skill based novice to seasoned writers with some grasp of "storytelling" sure grammar, spelling,and punctuation play a huge part, but that is only a small part of storytelling. What about character development, mood, plot, the flow of the story, the action/ drama/ suspense/ comical / and or historical factors?

I rarely vote, but when I do I keep the voting in the middle scope of (2,3,& 4) alas, most readers don't have my way of thinking after they have read a story. Slap a vote on it and move on.

Is someone foolish to believe what they write will be accepted and appreciated by everyone that reads the story? I think not! The votes are gonna fall how they are gonna fall. If the voting bothers some people, then maybe they should post elsewhere or not post the stories at all. Simple answers for simple issues.

As most of you know I agree most wholeheartedly with kantarii’s voting strategy. I’ve posted for years that scores are far too high on LITEROTICA and that after reading a story we should score it as we believe it merits (based on how LITEROTICA itself defines the various scores).

I’ve also suggested (more than once) that ever since every story was given a score next to it on each authors story page there is no further need of the red H. It is time to finally do away with it...

On a site that publishes some 25,000 stories per year you almost never see a story with a score under 3 (except for the work of LITEROTICAS most prolific author). Which means every story is rated “good” or better. As if…

Every day there are 20, 30 even 40 stories published that are poor to awful but everyone of them seems to score from 3.8 to 4.8 depending on category.

It was bad enough when we used to have darkboy et al talking about averages and means, now we have some guy talking about modes… WTF!

So thanks kintarii.

However I knew that your posts would be soon followed by the old AHland argument. And I wasn’t disappointed. Led of course by the oggman…

And how many times have I heard an AHer say he never scores a story below 4! And there’s even someone who claims she just gives 5’s!

And then of course ace was sure to pop in. Apparantly only a “troll” would score any story below 3 (good). The man clearly has never read a story here that wasn't good???​

[QUOTE OGGMAN]A 1 bomb only has impact because the bar for HOT is 4.5. IF the voting had a norm of 3.00 for an average competent story, then 1 votes wouldn't matter. But the reality is that the scale isn't equal. Any vote lower than a 4 impacts on whether a story retains its red H.

But I don't think every reader appreciates that. They could think that a 3 is an average story, a 4 for good or better than average, and a 5 is exceptionally good.

If you do, and everyone else thought like that too, then no story would get a red H.

Every vote you make, based on your version of the scale, damages a story's rating.

[QUOTE NOTWISE] Any vote lower than a 5 can knock the score below 4.5.

I don't vote on a story unless I read the whole thing, and I don't finish stories that don't entertain me. As a result, I've never given a score below 4*.

[QUOTE CARNAL] If I've finished and voted, you've almost always got a 5.

http://ken.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/snob.jpg

[QUOTE ACE] That's my impression of the voting system here, although I think a refinement could be:

2* I didn't read it; I'm just trolling it and don't want the number to be swept
1* I didn't read it; I'm trolling it as hard as I can.

[QUOTE I WOULD] I pretty much only ever vote 4-5, rarely 3, never lower.

 

[sr71plt]

I read one of your stories, Scouries. (You entered a contest years ago and I did reviews on all of the entries). Only mentioned the stories in my reviews that I thought had merit, though. (https://www.literotica.com/s/earth-day-out-of-the-gate-review, https://www.literotica.com/s/earth-day-contest-midstream-review, https://www.literotica.com/s/earth-day-home-stretch-review) Enough said about that--I've read one of your stories. Only one of your stories. (Get it? )

Glad to see that you've picked up my suggestion that we just do away with the red Hs now that the actual ratings are given on the lists (this is a fairly recent and welcome enhancement).

 

[TxRad]

By the way, for the newbies among us, scouries is one of the main reasons for the sweeps. Back when he actually posted stories here on Lit, he had a habit of stuffing the ballot boxes with 5 votes for his stories and 1's for everyone else. He is also the one who ran fake contests, fake lists, and fake awards to associate his name with the better writers here on Lit. he even had an associate for readers that consisted of him and him alone.

Now he spends his time advertising his old stories and stuffing them and himself on the favorites lists. Go read one of his "Masterpieces" and then ask yourself if the votes, views, and comments match the story you read. I doubt that many here will be able to even finish it.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Yes! I'd like to hunt them down where they live. They annoy me the most.

You can see them do it, very clearly, if you ever happen to be up early and have nothing to do. The New stories post--some get normal, typical scores, some none, some fives. Refresh in an hour or so, and every single one has been bombed, up and down. Now the ones with no votes have a 1, the 5s are down to 4 or 3, etc.

Some freaks, obv the same ones who live in Mom's basement, sit there trying to skew the ratings and spoil the H's from the get-go. It's like sticking your leg out in a foot race to try and trip everyone. It's cowardly, sleazy, and low.

Anytime you have a New story up, you can factor in a few 1-Bombs from these a-holes into your score, and it's worse for Contests.

Should I question the character of people who hang out and hit all the new stories as soon as they come up?