The Doctor Thing.

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Should non-medical degree holders use a different title?

For the record, I am opposed to all non-military titles and salutations.
 
Should non-medical degree holders use a different title?

For the record, I am opposed to all non-military titles and salutations.

personally, no. she did the work.

its not like its an 'honorary degree'.
 
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Question: "Should non-medical degree holders use a different title?

Response: "No".

Reply: "Read the question again. Respond accordingly".

WTAF???
 
Read the question again. Respond accordingly.

I agree it can cause some people to get confused.

In the UK a medical doctor could have a simple B. Med and/or BSc. Most are both. If they go on to become a consultant, instead of 'doctor' they are called 'Mr'.

My youngest daughter is a medical doctor and Ph.D (plus other qualifications). She would be entitled to call herself a 'Mr' but since she is female she prefers to be known as 'doctor'. Her husband does medical research but he is not a medical doctor. He has a different degree qualification in a medical specialism and a Ph.D (with further qualifications) so he is called 'doctor' as well.

To avoid confusion she has kept her maiden name as a 'doctor'...
 
I don't see why other fields aren't simply 'Professor' of something similar.


Only those in the medical fields should use Doctor or variants.
 
Should non-medical degree holders use a different title?

No. The title has always been Doctor of Philosophy, or Ph.D. There's absolutely no reason to change it. Ph.Ds existed long before medical professionals started using the word "doctor, " so if anything, they should stop using it and call themselves something else.
 
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I read the response and my reply is the same.

WTAF???

Additionally, comsidering the title "Doctor" derives its origin from teachers and not physicians, PERSONALLY it's a NO from me as well when someone asks whether a non-physician should use a different title.

Is the only acceptable response yes???

*chuckles*
 
My local university was confused.

Many years ago when I started a new career I thought it would be nice to be an MBA. They were running a two-year course of evening classes.

I went to enrol but they refused to accept me. They thought that my membership of professional associations meant I was overqualified. At the time I had twenty-four letters after my name including a fellowship of a Royal Society.

They wanted me to be a visiting tutor!
 
My local university was confused.

Many years ago when I started a new career I thought it would be nice to be an MBA. They were running a two-year course of evening classes.

I went to enrol but they refused to accept me. They thought that my membership of professional associations meant I was overqualified. At the time I had twenty-four letters after my name including a fellowship of a Royal Society.

They wanted me to be a visiting tutor!

But when you explained it to them they ultimately accepted you right???

Additionally, in Dr. Jill Biden's case, it isn't that confusing, and it really isn't a big deal, unless you're a petty misogynistic troll.

Coincidentally, even "real" doctors often have to explain their field of expertise or specialization.

The WSJ diminished it's already tainted reputation by publishing that pathetic excuse for an Op-Ed.
 
Should non-medical degree holders use a different title?

For the record, I am opposed to all non-military titles and salutations.

No, anyone who has done the work has earned the title.

....except chiropractors.
 
My local university was confused.

Many years ago when I started a new career I thought it would be nice to be an MBA. They were running a two-year course of evening classes.

I went to enrol but they refused to accept me. They thought that my membership of professional associations meant I was overqualified. At the time I had twenty-four letters after my name including a fellowship of a Royal Society.

They wanted me to be a visiting tutor!

The tradition at my university (the University of Virginia, founded by Thomas Jefferson) for at least the first 150 years was that academic titles weren't used in direct address ("If Mr. was good enough for Mr. Jefferson . . ."). I think they're used at UVa now.

The rule of thumb I've encountered professionally, is that they're used within the professional context but not out on the street.
 
No. They didn't. They insisted I was overqualified even for their Ph.D.

That seems extreme.

Just curious, how did that impact your employment at your new job???

It seems there would be some recourse in the courts if some harm was caused to your earning potential due to the denial of access to their program.
 
I thought about naming my son "Doctor"

I thought that if I named my son "Doctor" it would give him a leg up and he would be off to a good start without spending 12 years leaning how to do a pelvic exam. But believe it or not there is a law against it.

But on a more serious note, the term Doctor is abused.
 
Should non-medical degree holders use a different title?

For the record, I am opposed to all non-military titles and salutations.

You might consider pondering more important questions.
 
Calling a medical practitioner 'Doctor' is merely a courtesy title. Their medical skills do not entitle them. A Phd or DPhil is a higher degree altogether and has given the people who earned it the right to call themselves Doctor for hundreds of years before medico's appropriated the title.

Even higher than a Phd is the very rare Dsc (Doctor of Science) which is only awarded for a body of work over a prolonged period beyond that required to achieve a Phd.

A medicos qualification was until recently always MB (Latin Medicinae Baccalaureus), Bachelor of Medicine which indicates the holders clear academic inferiority to Dr Biden.
She has more right and qualifications to the title 'Doctor' than any mere medical practitioner. ;)
 
I thought that if I named my son "Doctor" it would give him a leg up and he would be off to a good start without spending 12 years leaning how to do a pelvic exam. But believe it or not there is a law against it.

But on a more serious note, the term Doctor is abused.

Really? Where? Cite? I don't think there are laws anywhere in the Western world against any choice for a first name. I once had a dentist named Dr. Doctor Doctor.

My son has a nonmedical doctorate. For some reason I no longer remember, I call him Steamboat.
 
My medical Drs. generally have MD and maybe even other letters after their name to distinguish. People seem to think that a Dr. is always a medical Dr. I had an English teacher who went by Dr. Joos. He was not a medical Dr. So yeah, the title is correct and should be used.
 
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