The "do"s and "don't"s of being a Volunteer Editor

snooper

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As a companion to my last new thread try these:

1. When first contacted as a VE, DO try to understand what the author wants from the editing process. Some authors welcome ideas for plot extensions, others only wish orthographic and grammatical advice. Some authors need an urgent response, others prefer a thorough edit.

2. If an author says that it is essential that an edit is completed by a certain date DON'T rush your edit. If it isn't possible for you to work fast enough on this task to meet the author's deadline, remember you are a volunteer and politely tell the author you can't do what (s)he wants.

3. When first contacted by an author, DO make it clear whether you mind if the author is using more than one VE.

4. The very last moment before sending something back to an author, DO run a spell check on your comments.

5. When you receive a story for editing, DO acknowledge its receipt. Email is still unreliable from time to time.

6. When you have looked through your edited version, DO amplify any comments the author may not understand.

7. When you have looked through your editing, if you think the author can learn a general lesson about writing, DO try to indicate that to the author without "talking down" to them.

8. Remember always that the amateur author is just that, an amateur. DON’T expect an amateur to write like a top literary genius.

9. DON'T praise bad writing just so the author will like you.
 
snooper said:
As a companion to my last new thread try these:

1. When first contacted as a VE, DO try to understand what the author wants from the editing process. Some authors welcome ideas for plot extensions, others only wish orthographic and grammatical advice. Some authors need an urgent response, others prefer a thorough edit.

2. If an author says that it is essential that an edit is completed by a certain date DON'T rush your edit. If it isn't possible for you to work fast enough on this task to meet the author's deadline, remember you are a volunteer and politely tell the author you can't do what (s)he wants.

3. When first contacted by an author, DO make it clear whether you mind if the author is using more than one VE.

4. The very last moment before sending something back to an author, DO run a spell check on your comments.

5. When you receive a story for editing, DO acknowledge its receipt. Email is still unreliable from time to time.

6. When you have looked through your edited version, DO amplify any comments the author may not understand.

7. When you have looked through your editing, if you think the author can learn a general lesson about writing, DO try to indicate that to the author without "talking down" to them.

8. Remember always that the amateur author is just that, an amateur. DON’T expect an amateur to write like a top literary genius.

9. DON'T praise bad writing just so the author will like you.


I think those two:

7. When you have looked through your editing, if you think the author can learn a general lesson about writing, DO try to indicate that to the author without "talking down" to them.

9. DON'T praise bad writing just so the author will like you.

should be over-emphasized over and over again.

Snooper: Seriously, are you willing to take on the task of putting all these nuggets of wisdom into a single thread and send them to me when it's done? I'd definitely stick and close it so that no one could threadjack it.
 
snooper said:
... except the moderator.

If I close and stick it.....I won't threadjack it. The only reason there would be to re-open it would be if there was more nuggets to add.
 
Not Yet

I'm unfamiliar with thread-jacking and all. Way beyond me.

Am I being 'closed out' like some outdated style?
 
How To Handle This - Was I Wrong?

I profess myself as a mentor.

But what do I do when I'm confronted with a story where an extremely underage (pre-teen, not my quote) person (eighth-grade character) is the focus of attention?

I have faults and tendencies, but I don't share these. I tried to be civil and kind to the writer and encourage my help if the details were changed, but I am not comfortable with the story.

Was I right? Was I wrong? What is 'right' and 'wrong' ??
 
AsylumSeeker said:
I profess myself as a mentor.

But what do I do when I'm confronted with a story where an extremely underage (pre-teen, not my quote) person (eighth-grade character) is the focus of attention?

I have faults and tendencies, but I don't share these. I tried to be civil and kind to the writer and encourage my help if the details were changed, but I am not comfortable with the story.

Was I right? Was I wrong? What is 'right' and 'wrong' ??

If you aren't comfortable with the content of the story, I would send the writer a note expressing your feelings and decline to help with the story.

I personally wouldn't touch a story like that with a ten-foot pole.
 
AsylumSeeker said:
I profess myself as a mentor.

But what do I do when I'm confronted with a story where an extremely underage (pre-teen, not my quote) person (eighth-grade character) is the focus of attention?

I have faults and tendencies, but I don't share these. I tried to be civil and kind to the writer and encourage my help if the details were changed, but I am not comfortable with the story.

Was I right? Was I wrong? What is 'right' and 'wrong' ??

That author could not possibly hope to get that posted here at Lit. There is no way that it would be allowed, let alone be legal. Send a note to the author telling 'em that in order for that story to be posted here at Lit (providing that s/he is writing it for Lit), then they have to make the main character 18 or older. If they ask why, tell them that's the law here, literally.
 
AsylumSeeker said:
... I tried to be civil and kind to the writer and encourage my help if the details were changed, but I am not comfortable with the story.

Was I right?
Yes. The wording I use is I do not think that Literotica will accept the changed story unless the specifically Lit comments are dealt with to their satisfaction.

AsylumSeeker said:
What is 'right' and 'wrong' ??
This is an arbitrary judgement made by each individual according to her/his own personal conscience.

That leaves the need to define conscience. Shakespeare (predating Friedrich Nietzsche's New Morality by some considerable time) wrote "Conscience is a word that cowards use, Invented first to keep the strong in awe." Then he categorised all such thinking, correctly IMHO, by putting those words in the mouth of a half mad hunchback on the eve of his defeat.
 
more additions

10. As a VE, DON'T interject your own preferences to scenes that don't suit your views/beliefs. DO try to keep in mind that this is the author's story, not yours.

11. DO understand that, as right as you believe you are, it's the author's choice to use, or not, any of the recommendations you've made in the story you've just read (or suffered, depending) through.

12. Lit is an international community. Most authors will tell you in the initial contact if English isn't their first language. If you speak only English (in whatever variation - bowing respectfully to those across the Pond ;) ), DO decide early on how much of a teacher/editor you're prepared to be in order for the story/concept to be understood by the English-speaking Lit public. If you're not willing to hand-hold &, in some cases, spoon-feed the author through what could be a painful editing process for you both, DO consider passing on the project and/or recommend another VE. If you're multilingual, use that to both of your advantages & I'll be jealous that I'm not as smart as you.

13. DO remember you're own time & life. If you've got 3 or more stories backed up with barely any time to kiss your spouse/partner or go pee, DO turn own the next author to contact you. YOU'RE A VOLUNTEER, not an editor with a quota to meet for a publishing house. (my apologies to any publishing houses on the site - :D)



(I've got more, but hafta get 'em organized in my head before I let 'em fall off my fingers to the screen. Let me know when to quit. :cathappy: )
 
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I felt so uncomfortable with the subject matter that I returned the story that I'd edited to that point and explained that I wasn't comfortable continuing the editing unless he changed the age of the character and cleaned up the completely offensive dialogue (I hadn't mentioned that to all of you, referring to women as 'cum-sluts' and such - what a nice guy!).

Luckily he hasn't sent anything back (crossing fingers).

I'm almost afraid of offering my services to others. I'm a very passive person. My wife hates that (this) about me. When a telemarketer calls (we usually screen but one occasionally slips through) I don't have the heart to hang up, so I listen to their spiel before saying "No, thanks."

Maybe that's why I feel so guilty about refusing them. I guess I'm trying to distinguish the line between "mentoring" and "refusing".

My heartfelt thanks to all for your assist.
 
AsylumSeeker said:
I... When a telemarketer calls (we usually screen but one occasionally slips through) I don't have the heart to hang up, so I listen to their spiel before saying "No, thanks." ...
As an aside to the thread, I just put the phone down somewhere (very quietly) and go on with whatever I was doing. After about ten minutes you will find that the telemarketer has gone without you having to say a word..
 
oh, the possibilities

any possibility of this thread becoming a "sticky", too? Just curious. Still organizing other helpful (from my POV) hints & didn't whether to continue writing them down & sharing with the populace. :)
 
adetaildiva said:
any possibility of this thread becoming a "sticky", too? Just curious. Still organizing other helpful (from my POV) hints & didn't whether to continue writing them down & sharing with the populace. :)


Please, be my guest, Diva and share you tidbits of wisdom with the populace. ;)
If Snooper is still up to it, when he's ready he'll sent me the list all neatly done and I'll only have to stick and close it.
 
LadyCibelle said:
If Snooper is still up to it, when he's ready he'll sent me the list all neatly done and I'll only have to stick and close it.
I'm not hurrying on either list, because I'd rather have all the ideas first time, instead of changes every few days.
 
snooper said:
I'm not hurrying on either list, because I'd rather have all the ideas first time, instead of changes every few days.

And it wasn't meant as me wanting to rush you, Snooper. I apologize to you if it could be construed that way.
 
I have one more to add:

14. DON'T blind the author with science. If the author cannot distinguish between there, their, and they're properly it is unlikely that (s)he will understand an exhortation to use a gerund rather than a past participle.
 
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