The Difference Between Boys and Men

[UselessDesires]

Boys are more concerned about their own experience. Their partner's orgasm is secondary. Sex is done after he cums, whether she has or not.

Men know that if she doesn't have an orgasm, it was one-sided sex, and it's the full experience of the two of you that is the goal.

It's like asking her to put in the time and effort to make a delicious cake, taking it from her , and eating it all yourself without a thought that she might enjoy a piece. Although she might really enjoy baking, why wouldn't she want that final reward of eating it with you?

It always astounds me when men don't consider her orgasm just as important as their own.

That's just my thought for the day.

 

[Aphro]

True. Another difference I have found is that "boys" (I am not putting an age range on this) have a very narrow and defined range of what a woman should be, focused on breast size, ass shape, etc as far as attractiveness goes, whereas men seem to be much more able to enjoy the female form in all sizes and types, and are much more appreciative of women in general.

 

[UselessDesires]

True. Another difference I have found is that "boys" (I am not putting an age range on this) have a very narrow and defined range of what a woman should be, focused on breast size, ass shape, etc as far as attractiveness goes, whereas men seem to be much more able to enjoy the female form in all sizes and types, and are much more appreciative of women in general.

Yes! Exactly! Thank you for your input!

 

[TheOlderGuy]

All very true

 

[UhlBWett]

So true, but ironically......

The boys you're referring to probably won't take time to read this thread, or possess the maturity to appreciate it if they do. Their narcissistic egos won't allow them to be honest with themselves or others about it. So that just leaves those of us who understand and those of you who lament over the situation. Sex without a woman's orgasm is like Soup Beans without Cornbread, a Grilled Bratwurst without Mustard & Relish, or a Prom Dance without Music. It's not right and it's not natural.......... Sorry for the redneck metaphors, it's the country boy in me

Sex is like a long train ride. I love for her to have a few whistle stops along the way, but I like for us to pull into the station together..........

 

[crazy4cock]

The boys you're referring to probably won't take time to read this thread, or possess the maturity to appreciate it if they do. Their narcissistic egos won't allow them to be honest with themselves or others about it. So that just leaves those of us who understand and those of you who lament over the situation. Sex without a woman's orgasm is like Soup Beans without Cornbread, a Grilled Bratwurst without Mustard & Relish, or a Prom Dance without Music. It's not right and it's not natural.......... Sorry for the redneck metaphors, it's the country boy in me

Sex is like a long train ride. I love for her to have a few whistle stops along the way, but I like for us to pull into the station together..........

wow so true..
I remember back in my single days not even being touched by a hug or kiss.
I married the man who kissed, hugged and touched me and also made sure I had an orgasm every damn time.

 

[UhlBWett]

Mmmmmmm

wow so true..
I remember back in my single days not even being touched by a hug or kiss.
I married the man who kissed, hugged and touched me and also made sure I had an orgasm every damn time.

Good girl!

 

[UselessDesires]

The boys you're referring to probably won't take time to read this thread, or possess the maturity to appreciate it if they do. Their narcissistic egos won't allow them to be honest with themselves or others about it. So that just leaves those of us who understand and those of you who lament over the situation. Sex without a woman's orgasm is like Soup Beans without Cornbread, a Grilled Bratwurst without Mustard & Relish, or a Prom Dance without Music. It's not right and it's not natural.......... Sorry for the redneck metaphors, it's the country boy in me

Sex is like a long train ride. I love for her to have a few whistle stops along the way, but I like for us to pull into the station together..........

I love those redneck metaphors!

Truly, I can't say the issue is all one sided. I have girl friends who have been married 15 + years and never orgasm, yet they don't do anything about it (such as actually communicating with their husbands), they don't even realize it shouldn't be that way. But it's sad because they don't know how fun sex can be, they start to see it as a necessary evil, something required and endured because of their marriage vows. I wish more girls and women would start demanding a piece of that cake.

 

[HussarVanburen]

Boys are more concerned about their own experience. Their partner's orgasm is secondary. Sex is done after he cums, whether she has or not.

Men know that if she doesn't have an orgasm, it was one-sided sex, and it's the full experience of the two of you that is the goal.

It's like asking her to put in the time and effort to make a delicious cake, taking it from her , and eating it all yourself without a thought that she might enjoy a piece. Although she might really enjoy baking, why wouldn't she want that final reward of eating it with you?

It always astounds me when men don't consider her orgasm just as important as their own.

That's just my thought for the day.

There are several things to consider here.

First: It is very likely that the men (and yes - not boys) do not care about the woman's pleasure because she is disposable. Very likely, they are using her for pleasure themselves, and thus do not care at all whether she likes it or not, and any bar slut, whore, or other easy lay can come and replace her. As modern women tend to have neither virtues nor virtue, this is a common instance.

Second: The role of women is to serve men. Accordingly, whether they enjoy the sexual act is entirely secondary. In fact, it is of little account. She should be thankful she is doing her job to please the man whom she owes everything to. Of course, this is only in the case of a woman who is worth something, not the above.

Third: Returning to the theme of sluts, the female orgasm is well tied to a woman's self-respect. Quite simply: Women weren't made for casual sex. They do not gain the pleasure men can from it, least of all as they are almost entirely pressured (by society and the men they are with) to engage in things contrary to their nature. Woman's sexuality requires a great giving of self to the man. This cannot be achieved in a casual union that is meant to be a mere physical act that is wham, bam, thank you ma'am.

Fourth: I believe there is something near to 20 percent of women who are more or less unorgasmic. I'd wager a significant portion of them have problems of the third sort, but there is some of the population which cannot come.

 

[Aphro]

Second: The role of women is to serve men. Accordingly, whether they enjoy the sexual act is entirely secondary. In fact, it is of little account. She should be thankful she is doing her job to please the man whom she owes everything to. Of course, this is only in the case of a woman who is worth something, not the above.

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

With an attitude like yours, I would not fuck you with a borrowed vagina. Ever. In any universe.

I hope your wife/girlfriend has a really good vibe or dildo, you must fucking suck in bed.

 

[Sideslider]

There are several things to consider here.

First: It is very likely that the men (and yes - not boys) do not care about the woman's pleasure because she is disposable. Very likely, they are using her for pleasure themselves, and thus do not care at all whether she likes it or not, and any bar slut, whore, or other easy lay can come and replace her. As modern women tend to have neither virtues nor virtue, this is a common instance.

Second: The role of women is to serve men. Accordingly, whether they enjoy the sexual act is entirely secondary. In fact, it is of little account. She should be thankful she is doing her job to please the man whom she owes everything to. Of course, this is only in the case of a woman who is worth something, not the above.

Third: Returning to the theme of sluts, the female orgasm is well tied to a woman's self-respect. Quite simply: Women weren't made for casual sex. They do not gain the pleasure men can from it, least of all as they are almost entirely pressured (by society and the men they are with) to engage in things contrary to their nature. Woman's sexuality requires a great giving of self to the man. This cannot be achieved in a casual union that is meant to be a mere physical act that is wham, bam, thank you ma'am.

Fourth: I believe there is something near to 20 percent of women who are more or less unorgasmic. I'd wager a significant portion of them have problems of the third sort, but there is some of the population which cannot come.

I won't even bother to flame this post...I'll just say, I pity you man.

It must be difficult going through life so blindly

 

[soflabbwlvr]

For me, sex doesn't start until she cums.

 

[Aphro]

So, Hussar, I checked out your post history, to get a handle on where you are coming from. I see that you are the guy who posted that you don't give women oral, as that is "submissive". I garner from this information, that you consider yourself a Dom, and as such, anything you deem as being submissive is off the table for you, oral and women's orgasms included.

Now, I will be the very first to admit, I am not well-versed in the intricacies of the Dom/sub relationship, or the dynamics that are involved as it pertains to sex or day to day relationships, outside of a few chapters of 50 Shades, which I could not even finish.

However, I think I know a little bit about sexual pleasure and human nature, and I feel that if you think providing physical pleasure to a woman is submissive and beneath you as a Dom, you are way off base. And here is why.

You mention that the woman's job is to serve the man, service him if you will. Her only role is to provide him with pleasure, yes?

Well, as a woman, I can tell you that there is no other time that I feel MORE powerful than when I am sucking his cock, his eyes are rolled back in his head, and I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that I OWN him at that moment. He is mine, I have the control and it is a wicked rush for me to know I can do that to him and for him. Not because I am submissively servicing him, but because I want to be able to say yes, I can rock your world and make you forget your name for these next few minutes. That is, to my mind, not submissiveness.

And I am extrapolating here, being that I am not a man, but I can only imagine the same sort of feelings would hold true for a guy who is able to bring a woman to an incredible climax, or two or three (betcha didn't know we could even do that, hey?) and that would be and incredibly powerful feeling for any man to know he can take her to the edge, bring her back, and take her back to the brink and over, again and again. Whether that is orally, manually, or however he decides it works for her. I don't see that as "servicing" a woman, it's pure control to have someone in that position.

For me, I think if you can bring someone, man or woman, such incredible pleasure, where they lose all control, that is like holding their very soul in your hands, albeit briefly. What could be more powerful than that?

 

[unhung]

I was once a boy, as I became a man I realised women can be just as self absorbed in the bedroom.

Thing is, while obviously many men are inconsiderate about a womans needs I reckon there are probably a large number who are just too embarrassed to admit they're unsure and the woman doesn't feel confident in guiding him, so it's just easier for the man to seem inconsiderate of her needs.

Here's the catch when a woman is inconsiderate of her mans needs she's generally just selfish, because for the most part we're much easier to please. That doesn't mean that just because we orgasm we are satisfied.

If your partners inconsiderate tell him/her or move on, communicate your needs, take some responsibility for yourself.

And for all you women if you think you've left every man you've been with completely satisfied, think again. We/most may not need to fake orgasms but most of us would have faked just how satisfying it was.

 

[VladHarkonnen]

True. Another difference I have found is that "boys" (I am not putting an age range on this) have a very narrow and defined range of what a woman should be, focused on breast size, ass shape, etc as far as attractiveness goes, whereas men seem to be much more able to enjoy the female form in all sizes and types, and are much more appreciative of women in general.

I can't agree. Both men and women respond to different body types.

My woman has to have a big booty But beyond that I don't have many requirements. For me, it's about shape...not weight, height, etc. A woman can be 100 pounds. She can be 300 pounds. She just has to have a proportionately large booty and hips.

Hey...I can't control this. There's a saying. The heart wants what the heart wants. This same rule applies to my cock. Or, to quote a great philosopher of our time, Sir Mixalot, "my anaconda don't want none unless you got buns hun".

 

[peachesmelba]

There are several things to consider here.

First: It is very likely that the men (and yes - not boys) do not care about the woman's pleasure because she is disposable. Very likely, they are using her for pleasure themselves, and thus do not care at all whether she likes it or not, and any bar slut, whore, or other easy lay can come and replace her. As modern women tend to have neither virtues nor virtue, this is a common instance.

Second: The role of women is to serve men. Accordingly, whether they enjoy the sexual act is entirely secondary. In fact, it is of little account. She should be thankful she is doing her job to please the man whom she owes everything to. Of course, this is only in the case of a woman who is worth something, not the above.

Third: Returning to the theme of sluts, the female orgasm is well tied to a woman's self-respect. Quite simply: Women weren't made for casual sex. They do not gain the pleasure men can from it, least of all as they are almost entirely pressured (by society and the men they are with) to engage in things contrary to their nature. Woman's sexuality requires a great giving of self to the man. This cannot be achieved in a casual union that is meant to be a mere physical act that is wham, bam, thank you ma'am.

Fourth: I believe there is something near to 20 percent of women who are more or less unorgasmic. I'd wager a significant portion of them have problems of the third sort, but there is some of the population which cannot come.

Checking my calendar to make certain I haven't fallen into a wormhole and wound up in the friggin' FIRST CENTURY!!!!! WTF???? Seriously? And I'll bet you think you're some stud too because YOU cum every time (and probably don't take any responsibility for the safety or health or possible fertility of your partner since it doesn't effect you either)............

 

[sweetfanny]

There are several things to consider here.

First: It is very likely that the men (and yes - not boys) do not care about the woman's pleasure because she is disposable. Very likely, they are using her for pleasure themselves, and thus do not care at all whether she likes it or not, and any bar slut, whore, or other easy lay can come and replace her. As modern women tend to have neither virtues nor virtue, this is a common instance.

First, here in the twenty-first century, us bar sluts of easy or no virtue talk amongst ourselves. Because we are lascivious creatures interested only in stuffing cock into our vaginas until we orgasm, we are unlikely to be interested in a man that is incapable or uninterested in giving us pleasure. When we tell our virtueless bar slut whore friends that this is the case with a particular man, his supply of disposable women tends to dry up.

Second: The role of women is to serve men. Accordingly, whether they enjoy the sexual act is entirely secondary. In fact, it is of little account. She should be thankful she is doing her job to please the man whom she owes everything to. Of course, this is only in the case of a woman who is worth something, not the above.

So wait, the sexual pleasure of worthwhile women is even less important than the orgasms of virtueless bar slut whores?

Third: Returning to the theme of sluts, the female orgasm is well tied to a woman's self-respect. Quite simply: Women weren't made for casual sex. They do not gain the pleasure men can from it, least of all as they are almost entirely pressured (by society and the men they are with) to engage in things contrary to their nature. Woman's sexuality requires a great giving of self to the man. This cannot be achieved in a casual union that is meant to be a mere physical act that is wham, bam, thank you ma'am.

I'm sorry, sugar beans, but your logical fallacy is showing. Who on earth told you that respect (self or otherwise) and casual sex are mutually exclusive?

Fourth: I believe there is something near to 20 percent of women who are more or less unorgasmic. I'd wager a significant portion of them have problems of the third sort, but there is some of the population which cannot come.

With dudes like you out there, I don't doubt for a minute there are sexually unsatisfied, orgasmless women. I also agree that this is due to your point three. If they had any self-respect, they wouldn't put up with it.

 

[SweetShal303]

So, Hussar, I checked out your post history, to get a handle on where you are coming from. I see that you are the guy who posted that you don't give women oral, as that is "submissive". I garner from this information, that you consider yourself a Dom, and as such, anything you deem as being submissive is off the table for you, oral and women's orgasms included.

Now, I will be the very first to admit, I am not well-versed in the intricacies of the Dom/sub relationship, or the dynamics that are involved as it pertains to sex or day to day relationships, outside of a few chapters of 50 Shades, which I could not even finish.

However, I think I know a little bit about sexual pleasure and human nature, and I feel that if you think providing physical pleasure to a woman is submissive and beneath you as a Dom, you are way off base. And here is why.

You mention that the woman's job is to serve the man, service him if you will. Her only role is to provide him with pleasure, yes?

Well, as a woman, I can tell you that there is no other time that I feel MORE powerful than when I am sucking his cock, his eyes are rolled back in his head, and I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that I OWN him at that moment. He is mine, I have the control and it is a wicked rush for me to know I can do that to him and for him. Not because I am submissively servicing him, but because I want to be able to say yes, I can rock your world and make you forget your name for these next few minutes. That is, to my mind, not submissiveness.

And I am extrapolating here, being that I am not a man, but I can only imagine the same sort of feelings would hold true for a guy who is able to bring a woman to an incredible climax, or two or three (betcha didn't know we could even do that, hey?) and that would be and incredibly powerful feeling for any man to know he can take her to the edge, bring her back, and take her back to the brink and over, again and again. Whether that is orally, manually, or however he decides it works for her. I don't see that as "servicing" a woman, it's pure control to have someone in that position.

For me, I think if you can bring someone, man or woman, such incredible pleasure, where they lose all control, that is like holding their very soul in your hands, albeit briefly. What could be more powerful than that?

YOU ROCK!!! Way to go and in his face!!!

 

[CJinMA]

I've always been turned on more by how many orgasms I can give a woman. To turn her on is to turn me on. If I don't do my job then it isn't worth doing.

 

[FHMbabe]

I've always been turned on more by how many orgasms I can give a woman. To turn her on is to turn me on. If I don't do my job then it isn't worth doing.

Hmmm I like that!
Awesome to know that guys like you do exist

 

[followmenow6969]

Boys are more concerned about their own experience. Their partner's orgasm is secondary. Sex is done after he cums, whether she has or not.

Men know that if she doesn't have an orgasm, it was one-sided sex, and it's the full experience of the two of you that is the goal.

It's like asking her to put in the time and effort to make a delicious cake, taking it from her , and eating it all yourself without a thought that she might enjoy a piece. Although she might really enjoy baking, why wouldn't she want that final reward of eating it with you?

It always astounds me when men don't consider her orgasm just as important as their own.

That's just my thought for the day.

You wrote the truth... In all my relations it's proven to work every time and now that I have my lifetime partner and Wife there's NOTHING we deny each other....

 

[MoneyShot912]

Agreed... it's much more fulfilling to please a woman than to be pleased by her. That's what keeps her wanting more.

I've always been turned on more by how many orgasms I can give a woman. To turn her on is to turn me on. If I don't do my job then it isn't worth doing.

 

[HoldYouDown]

Why waste time shaming others for their desires and interests? Worry about your desires and interests and how they coincide with your partner's (or partners'). If your partner doesn't please you then consider whether it's the right relationship for you or not. It's pretty simple and doesn't need to turn into some indictment of "men" and "boys." Arguments over sexual preferences are pointless. Whether you prefer to cum first or get your partner off first it's still all in the name of self-interest, so spare me the "selflessness" routine. My $.02.

 

[Crayons]

Boys are more concerned about their own experience. Their partner's orgasm is secondary. Sex is done after he cums, whether she has or not.

Men know that if she doesn't have an orgasm, it was one-sided sex, and it's the full experience of the two of you that is the goal.

It's like asking her to put in the time and effort to make a delicious cake, taking it from her , and eating it all yourself without a thought that she might enjoy a piece. Although she might really enjoy baking, why wouldn't she want that final reward of eating it with you?

It always astounds me when men don't consider her orgasm just as important as their own.

That's just my thought for the day.

Or maybe boys just follow their own script, and men listen to what their partners want too. I've been annoyed just as often by boys who were determined that they needed to make me have an orgasm because that was what they were supposed to do to feel good about their own sexual prowess as by boys who didn't even try to figure out what I enjoyed.

It's like if you bake your partner a nice cake because you know they like cake and they said something about being hungry, and they say, "Oh wow, I'd love some cake. Here, I'll grab us some plates and cut you a slice too," and you say, "oh, thanks, but I think I'm actually going to have something else." And they say, "That cake looks delicious, but, I can't eat any until you have some." And you say, "but I think I'm more in the mood for coffee right now. Maybe I'll have cake later. You go ahead. I made it for you." And they say, "Eat cake, or I'll feel bad." And you say, "why? I don't want cake right now." And they say, "Please eat the cake. I can't enjoy my cake unless you have some cake." And you say, "But... oh, fine." And you secretly feed the cake to the dog under the table when he's distracted for a moment. (Shut up. No, I'm not into bestiality.) And he looks all pleased with himself when he sees the empty plate, and says, "There. See, I'm a real gentleman - I made sure you got some cake first. Now I will have some cake." And you think, "Real gentlemen are so neurotic."

 

[summiter1]

I know I will receive the wrath of this group on this thread. For the most part I agree with you. Young guys (me at 21) want sex....lots of it and as much as we can get and as much as we can get in an evening or a hookup. I am sure some of the more mature contributors to this thread might agree, because they were there at one time in their lives.

However, please don't put all young males into a pre-conceived box. The whole experience with sex is fascinating and I (perhaps I am a minority) take pleasure in enjoying sex much more when the girl I am with also enjoys it. We (the young "kids" 18-26 ish) have the advantage of unlimited porn, unlimited sexual advice via the internet that I doubt my parents had. Any question I have on sex or how to please a women is available at my fingertips from people who have some excellent advice to give. Thanks... by the way!

Speaking only for myself, I enjoy the intimacy ( yes of course one nighters are great) and I enjoy sex much more when I can get the girl I am with to enjoy the sex as much as I do. Please do not beat me up too much on this post...but there is some hope for the younger generation that has a lot to learn in the world of sex.