The Decline and Demise of the Left:

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The Decline and Demise of the Left:




The current energy crisis is a prime example of the left wing response to a national, if not world wide crisis.

The Right advocates less government restriction, greater access to resources, fewer bureaucratic hindrances, and more freedom for enterprise to supply energy.

The Left advocates more controls, price fixing, corporate regulation, management and conservation and…their big card, sacrifice of personal ambition.

In terms of a world wide threat of Islamic Terrorism, the Right advocates taking the conflict to them. The right advocates a more intense preparation and defense against those who use religious ideology as a life style.

The Left says, pull back, acquiesce, negotiate, compromise, let the wolf into the herd, accept the denigration of human rights continue in Muslim culture, who are we to intervene.

In terms of education, anything goes, says the Left, teach sex education, teach homosexuality, teach socialism and communism as ‘alternative’ lifestyles, never mind right or wrong or good and bad. There are no absolutes; there is no ‘right and wrong’ there is no, ‘good and bad’, it is all relative, each opinion is valid.

The Right says, there are moral standards, ethical standards, by which we should strive to live. There is a ‘right’ to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit, innate and inalienable…

For those who bemoaned the election of GWB over (who was it?) oh, yeah, Gore, in 2000 and the election of GWB over, (who was it?) Kerry, in 2004, well, get prepared for a Republican President in 2008, because you folks just don’t get it.

After 40 plus years of left wing hippydom, since the flawed Camelot of the promiscuous JFK, the chickens have really come home to roost.

And I think it does not matter who the candidates are; America has finally awoken to the disarray that is Left Wing Democrat.

And no, I really do not feel sorry for you, you deserve it.

Amicus….
 
amicus said:
The Decline and Demise of the Left:




The current energy crisis is a prime example of the left wing response to a national, if not world wide crisis.

The Right advocates less government restriction, greater access to resources, fewer bureaucratic hindrances, and more freedom for enterprise to supply energy.

The Left advocates more controls, price fixing, corporate regulation, management and conservation and…their big card, sacrifice of personal ambition.

In terms of a world wide threat of Islamic Terrorism, the Right advocates taking the conflict to them. The right advocates a more intense preparation and defense against those who use religious ideology as a life style.

The Left says, pull back, acquiesce, negotiate, compromise, let the wolf into the herd, accept the denigration of human rights continue in Muslim culture, who are we to intervene.

In terms of education, anything goes, says the Left, teach sex education, teach homosexuality, teach socialism and communism as ‘alternative’ lifestyles, never mind right or wrong or good and bad. There are no absolutes; there is no ‘right and wrong’ there is no, ‘good and bad’, it is all relative, each opinion is valid.

The Right says, there are moral standards, ethical standards, by which we should strive to live. There is a ‘right’ to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit, innate and inalienable…

For those who bemoaned the election of GWB over (who was it?) oh, yeah, Gore, in 2000 and the election of GWB over, (who was it?) Kerry, in 2004, well, get prepared for a Republican President in 2008, because you folks just don’t get it.

After 40 plus years of left wing hippydom, since the flawed Camelot of the promiscuous JFK, the chickens have really come home to roost.

And I think it does not matter who the candidates are; America has finally awoken to the disarray that is Left Wing Democrat.

And no, I really do not feel sorry for you, you deserve it.

Amicus….

What I struggle to understand is how each side, when they reach ascendancy, manages to convince themselves the other side has gone the way of the Dodo.

There is no evidence this is so, but apparently one reason it isn't so is the side that gets the upperhand brings an almost monolithic huberis and arrogance with them, that grows in proportion to each victory and eventually becomes one of the prime, if not the primemover in their downfall.

The left got it into their heads that conservatives were just the loyal opposition, that no one could ever fail to see the rightesness and beauty of their own agenda. And they are in disarry still, looking for computer consipracies and any other straw they can grasp that dosen't mean facing the simple reality they've lost touch with the majority and by extenion, they are no longer in power.

The right has been on top less than eight years and they are already laying the groundwork for their own demise.

The only two constant forces I see at work in politics are Stupidity and Arrogance. Maybe avarice too. the only difference is in the thrust of their scandals, Democrats will get caught blooking the maid in the hall closet, republicans will get caught with their hand in the till.

Sooner or later the left will regroup. They will wait until the right's policicy choices disaffect enough people, then they will weld those disaffected people into a coalition and boot us out. Just like we waited until thir policy of coddling criminals, attacking religion, taxing the snot out of people and pandering to minority special interests dissaffected enugh people to cobble together a majority.

What right polieices will be the culprit this time around? My guess is pandering to religious extrmists will disaffect a lot of people, it's already begun, a few knotheaded scandals like Tom Delay's money shnanigans and maybe a natural disaster or two like Katrina. Some corporations taking advantage of having their buddies holding the reins will piss off thousands if not millions. What will tip th scales? Could be something innocuous, like pushing intelligent design or something catastrophically stupid, like fucking with long held institutions to retain power (gerrymandering, the nuclear option on filibusters). More likely it will just be a slow and steady erosion of support because the one thing you can count on is not being able to please everyone with every choice and you have to make so many choices, the law of acerages demands you will eventually do something to piss off everyone.
 
There's something unseemly in seeing someone whip themselves into such a frothing masturbatory frenzy over politics.

One gets the feeling that Amicus' inflatable love doll must wear a Ted Kennedy mask.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
There's something unseemly in seeing someone whip themselves into such a frothing masturbatory frenzy over politics.

One gets the feeling that Amicus' inflatable love doll must wear a Ted Kennedy mask.
Have a heart man, I just ate food with a milk product in it :: flees to bathroom ::
 
dr_mabeuse said:
There's something unseemly in seeing someone whip themselves into such a frothing masturbatory frenzy over politics.

One gets the feeling that Amicus' inflatable love doll must wear a Ted Kennedy mask.
Please, not when I'm at work. People are staring.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
There's something unseemly in seeing someone whip themselves into such a frothing masturbatory frenzy over politics.

One gets the feeling that Amicus' inflatable love doll must wear a Ted Kennedy mask.
:D Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww!
 
Colleen Thomas said:
The only two constant forces I see at work in politics are Stupidity and Arrogance. Maybe avarice too. the only difference is in the thrust of their scandals, Democrats will get caught blooking the maid in the hall closet, republicans will get caught with their hand in the till.
I think I'd rather my leader bonk the maid and keep his hand outta my till personally :D

and amicus, seems to me what people are tired of is our current president right now. even some (gasp) republicans think he's a dumbass, and most of us would rathe elect a sheep than another like him.The Sheep would be just as able to walk around saying how Baaaaaaad the world is.
 
elsol: "What they are looking for is people with integrity and people who are trying to solve their problems."
 
Amicus may have integrity; gods know he has never wavered. The religious nutballs are singlemindedly sincere. The corporations ditto. All of these will pork you up the ass with a meathook with unchallengeable integrity. They not only plan to fuck you up, they tell you straight out they plan to fuck you up. Clinton and Kerry were Republicans in all but name; the only real difference is that they pretended otherwise and they were not beholden to the theocrats.

And that wing of the Dems is still holding the reins on the dead horse that their party has become.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
One gets the feeling that Amicus' inflatable love doll must wear a Ted Kennedy mask.
Ann Coulter.

I had more to write, but I try really hard not to rise to amicus' bait, or wrestle with pigs in the mud. With the latter, only the pig enjoys it.
 
Thanks Colly, nice thoughtful post, as always...but somewhat of a cynical look at cyclic events, much like 'shirtsleeve to shirtsleeve' in three generations when wealth comes and goes.

And you may well be right on the money.

For some reason I did not get an email notification of comments on this post and only now discovered it on the second page.

amicus...
 
dr_mabeuse said:
There's something unseemly in seeing someone whip themselves into such a frothing masturbatory frenzy over politics.

One gets the feeling that Amicus' inflatable love doll must wear a Ted Kennedy mask.

:cathappy:

(I must add this to my sig line - please, Zoot? I just spit iced tea all over the keyboard.)
 
There is room enough in the world for everyone and their politics, just don't preach to me.
 
amicus said:
The Decline and Demise of the Left:




The current energy crisis is a prime example of the left wing response to a national, if not world wide crisis.

The Right advocates less government restriction, greater access to resources, fewer bureaucratic hindrances, and more freedom for enterprise to supply energy.

The Left advocates more controls, price fixing, corporate regulation, management and conservation and…their big card, sacrifice of personal ambition.

In terms of a world wide threat of Islamic Terrorism, the Right advocates taking the conflict to them. The right advocates a more intense preparation and defense against those who use religious ideology as a life style.

The Left says, pull back, acquiesce, negotiate, compromise, let the wolf into the herd, accept the denigration of human rights continue in Muslim culture, who are we to intervene.

In terms of education, anything goes, says the Left, teach sex education, teach homosexuality, teach socialism and communism as ‘alternative’ lifestyles, never mind right or wrong or good and bad. There are no absolutes; there is no ‘right and wrong’ there is no, ‘good and bad’, it is all relative, each opinion is valid.

The Right says, there are moral standards, ethical standards, by which we should strive to live. There is a ‘right’ to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit, innate and inalienable…

For those who bemoaned the election of GWB over (who was it?) oh, yeah, Gore, in 2000 and the election of GWB over, (who was it?) Kerry, in 2004, well, get prepared for a Republican President in 2008, because you folks just don’t get it.

After 40 plus years of left wing hippydom, since the flawed Camelot of the promiscuous JFK, the chickens have really come home to roost.

And I think it does not matter who the candidates are; America has finally awoken to the disarray that is Left Wing Democrat.

And no, I really do not feel sorry for you, you deserve it.

Amicus….

Long live the Reich!







Dumbass.
 
What has always stunned me about the dems is the amazing capacity to try to run presidential candidates that have absolutely no chance.

They had to have had a meeting to try to find the single candidate that would have a chance of losing after the Clinton years.

And they found him.

My housecat could have won that election with Clinton's support.

Clinton must have been a fluke.

I fully suspect them to try to run someone with no chance in the next election.

Just fyi I am neither a dem or a republican.
 
Speedbumps said:
What has always stunned me about the dems is the amazing capacity to try to run presidential candidates that have absolutely no chance.

They had to have had a meeting to try to find the single candidate that would have a chance of losing after the Clinton years.

And they found him.

My housecat could have won that election with Clinton's support.

Clinton must have been a fluke.

I fully suspect them to try to run someone with no chance in the next election.

Just fyi I am neither a dem or a republican.

Clinton was elected by Ross Perot drawing off enough votes that would have gone to Bush the elder.

I agree with you abut Democrats nominating sure losers. George McGovern was a good example and Kerry. Even against wildly unopular incumbents, they were both seen too extremist to win. Gore probably would have won in 2004 if he had tried.
 
I remind you that everyone figured (in the North, at least) that the anti-evolution idea was dead after the monkey trial. But go ahead and count the Left dead if you like; it'll just make you less prepared for the inevitable comeback.
 
amicus said:
Thanks Colly, nice thoughtful post, as always...but somewhat of a cynical look at cyclic events, much like 'shirtsleeve to shirtsleeve' in three generations when wealth comes and goes.

And you may well be right on the money.

For some reason I did not get an email notification of comments on this post and only now discovered it on the second page.

amicus...


Actually, I kinda feel like overall, the situation of people who improve continues to go, up to a point. In the case of my family, I don't think the children of my cusins will do signigficantly better than their parents. I don't think they will do worse, rather, I think they will pretty much hold wehre they are onthe socico-economic ladder. My great Grandfather was a dirt farmer. His son a master carptenter, his sons a college counsellor and postal worker, their sons, Lawyers, and IT professionals. That's a lot of movement, but I don't see the next making theleap from upper middle to lower upper.

Politics is cyclical in a sense, but the cycles aren't regular or predictable. Something precipitates a shift and from my chair, it seems the defining moment is usually insignificant. The pebbles that fal first and trigger a rockslide so to speak. In this country at least, from the day you take power, you are on your way out. Be it power in the form of a single man, a political group or an ideological movement. Each decision you make will disaffect at least someone who supported you. Cumulatively, you will make enough eventually to disaffect enough people that you loose the majority. Some individuals can avoid this, like Strm thurmond or John Stennis or Ted Kennedy, but they have the advantgeof representing a small and fairly homogenous group.

The grander the stage, the more people you represent and the more heterogenous the overall group you depend upon for support becomes.

It might be cynical, but I think it's a fairly supportable position as cynical evaluations often are.
 
amicus said:
the chickens have really come home to roost.


Yes. Yes they have.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9981177/

Bush, GOP mired in political quicksand

"The latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, released Wednesday night, finds that all five of Bush’s job approval ratings — on overall job performance, the economy, foreign policy, terrorism and Iraq — are at all-time lows in the survey. In addition, the CIA leak scandal seems to be taking a toll on the administration, with nearly 80 percent believing the indictment of Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, is a serious matter, and with Bush experiencing a 17-point drop since January in those who see him as honest and straightforward."
 
Liberalbaiting, a strong and honest tradition which shows off the machismo of the hunting party. Seeing the proud Happy Fun Ball against these mighty and majestic beasts, we can see his peril. He fires a flamebait, man against liberal and reveals his character for the world. Triumphant, he posts a fallacy, ignores all criticism, and is gored to death. In victory he stands with his spleen hanging out. He certainly showed the liberal the rightness of his cause.

By the numbers of viewpoints on various issues, we are a liberal nation. The republicans have relied on fear-mongering, the opinion that the center always lies equidistant between the two talking heads on tv even if one is extremist and the other moderate, outright deceit and fallacy, the corruption of multiple elections, and violence to hold to their tenuous power.

The left are dormant wusses and pacifists, unwilling to engage in equal disinformation, in equal political technique, unwilling to engage in outright propaganda war. I think on that day, things might get a little interesting for the current crop of "conservatives".
 
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