The death of modern rock radio?

tymeblind

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April 28, 2005
New York Times
By JEFF LEEDS

Major radio companies are abandoning rock music so quickly lately that sometimes their own employees don't know it.

Troy Hanson, the program director of WZTA in Miami, said that he first learned that his station's owner, Clear Channel Communications, had ditched the rock format - and his staff - when he tuned to the station one morning in February and heard talk-radio. His rock domain, known as Zeta, had vanished. "We didn't even get to play 'It's the End of the World as We Know It,' " the R.E.M. anthem, as a sign off, he said.

In the last four months, radio executives have switched the formats of four modern-rock, or alternative, stations in big media markets, including WHFS in Washington-Baltimore area, WPLY in Philadelphia and the year-old KRQI in Seattle. Earlier this month WXRK in New York discarded most newer songs in favor of a playlist laden with rock stars from the 80's and 90's.

Music executives say the lack of true stars today is partly the reason. Since rap-rock acts like Kid Rock and Limp Bizkit retreated from the scene, none of the heralded bands from recent rock movements, be it garage-rock (the Strokes, the Vines) or emo (Dashboard Confessional, Thursday), connected with radio listeners or CD buyers the way their predecessors did.

This sudden exit of so many marquee stations has not only renewed the perennial debate about the relative health of rock as a musical genre, but it also indicates that the alternative format, once the darling of radio a decade ago, is now taking perhaps the heaviest fire in the radio industry's battle to retain listeners in the face of Internet and satellite radio competition. Many rock stations may be in for another blow when the shock jock Howard Stern departs for Sirius Satellite Radio next year.

There are still signs that a fervent alternative scene survives. This weekend, for instance, 50,000 people a day are expected to visit Indio, Calif., for the sixth-annual Coachella Valley Music Festival, the biggest rock event of its kind in the United States, to cheer bands like the Arcade Fire and the Secret Machines. Moreover, while alternative programmers are searching for a solution, for the moment they have the benefit of new music by a clutch of reliable stars from the genre's heyday: Nine Inch Nails, Weezer and Beck are releasing their first albums in two years or more, and songs by each rocketed to the top of Billboard magazine's modern-rock airplay chart.

But many musicians in the newer bands on the alternative playlists "could be your waiter tomorrow night and you wouldn't know the difference," griped a radio promotion executive at one major label, who requested anonymity for fear of offending bands on his label.

Ratings for rock radio stations have been languishing for years. The share of the 18-to-34 age group that is tuning in to alternative stations has shrunk by more than 20 percent in the last five years, according to Arbitron, while stations playing rap and R&B or Spanish-language formats have enjoyed an expanding audience.

As a result, many rock programmers aren't sure what to play.

"The format in the last couple of years has gone through an identity crisis," said Kevin Weatherly, program director of KROQ, a closely watched alternative powerhouse in Los Angeles. "You have stations that are too cool, that move too quickly and are only playing the coolest music, which doesn't at the end of the day attract enough of the audience. Or you have the other extreme, dumb rock, red-state rock that the cool kids just flat out aren't into."

Such scrambling to strike a balance has cost many alternative programmers large chunks of audience. Some radio executives said that they made a fateful choice in the last few years to jettison the pop-rock side of their genre to concentrate on heavier-sounding bands, and now are afraid to turn back. As part of that shift, many stations also decided to eliminate women from their audience research. These stations decided to aim at men almost exclusively because of the heavier sound. "You got yourself into a corner that you can't get out of," said Tom Calderone, senior vice president for music and talent at MTV, and a former radio programmer and consultant. "When you listen to alternative stations do their 90's flashback weekends, you can hear something as meaningful as Stone Temple Pilots and Soundgarden to something as silly and quirky as Harvey Danger and Presidents of the United States of America. When you become 65-75 percent guys, you're leaving a huge audience on the table."

At WZTA in Miami, the decision in 2003 to remove women from the equation "was definitely when we started to see Zeta's attrition," Mr. Hanson said. Days after Clear Channel took Zeta off the air, a rival company, Cox Radio, flipped the format of one of its Miami-area stations to rock.

Mr. Hanson also suggested that land-based radio had been too slow to respond to satellite radio, which offers access to dozens of commercial-free music channels for a monthly subscription fee and to digital music players, like Apple Computer's iPod. He said that he balked when a supervisor suggested running an on-air contest to give away an iPod loaded with 949 songs. (Zeta's frequency was 94.9-FM.) "I was like, 'Then they don't need to listen to Zeta anymore.' " Mr. Hanson wound up forgoing the contest.

"The people that are leading-edge technology consumers are not being embraced by terrestrial radio," said Jim McGuinn, who was program director of WPLY in Philadelphia, known as Y100, before its corporate parent, Radio One, flipped the station to rap and R&B in February. "The outsider image disappeared," Mr. McGuinn said.

Mr. McGuinn and a handful of other former WPLY employees have started an Internet radio station, y100rocks.com, to play music they say the terrestrial version had been missing, including songs by Interpol, Moby and Queens of the Stone Age.

But for now, Philadelphia has no terrestrial alternative-rock station.

Some analysts fear that, when radio stations switch from alternative rock to programming aimed at older listeners, they may be making a sacrifice. "Radio has ceded the younger demographic to other media," said Fred Jacobs, president of Jacobs Media, a radio consulting company in Southfield, Mich., specializing in rock. "I just don't know how we're going to get back people who didn't get into the radio habit in their teens," he said, adding, "It really becomes problematic down the road."
 
I blame it from when Jefferson Airplane became woeful Jefferson Starship.
 
Clean Channel Communications

Clear Channel Communications is the devil.

It's a good thing that we have KROQ here in Los Angeles. They are really strong and get a lot of sponsorship. The Clear Channel station in L.A. sux big time but a lot of people have given up music to listen to talk radio. Between baseball and talk radio, one is pretty much left with iPods.
 
Please don't get me started on clear channel. power corrupts.
 
We have a good rock and roll station here and it is not going anywhere. Screw that hip hop crap.
 
I stopped listening to FM radio all together years ago,
except for baseball and talk radio


There is something about discovering music for yourself that stimulates me....
 
Karen Kraft said:
Clear Channel Communications is the devil.

It's a good thing that we have KROQ here in Los Angeles. They are really strong and get a lot of sponsorship. The Clear Channel station in L.A. sux big time but a lot of people have given up music to listen to talk radio. Between baseball and talk radio, one is pretty much left with iPods.

Clear Channel is a fine organization that brings the most popular music to the most listeners while maximizing their profit margin. We are lucky that we live in a world that has companies like Clear Channel.
 
marshalt said:
Clear Channel is a fine organization that brings the most popular music to the most listeners while maximizing their profit margin. We are lucky that we live in a world that has companies like Clear Channel.

I detect a hint of sarcasm there.
 
Let's give credit where credit is due...namely to the sickening, 24/7 boy-band and Spears-crap music that's inundated the airwaves since the late 90s.

This is why modern radio is dying. That and satellite radio, where you can still say 'pussy' without being fined.
 
Karen Kraft said:
Clear Channel Communications is the devil.

It's a good thing that we have KROQ here in Los Angeles. They are really strong and get a lot of sponsorship. The Clear Channel station in L.A. sux big time but a lot of people have given up music to listen to talk radio. Between baseball and talk radio, one is pretty much left with iPods.


I :heart: KROQ. I only listen to that channel.
 
"We didn't even get to play 'It's the End of the World as We Know It,' " the R.E.M. anthem, as a sign off, he said.

If that's your idea of a sign off rock anthem, you should go off the air.
 
Morwen said:
If that's your idea of a sign off rock anthem, you should go off the air.


I was never a REM fan, whiney bitches if you ask me.


Hey LA people is Jason Bentley's radio show any good?
 
tymeblind said:
I was never a REM fan, whiney bitches if you ask me.


Hey LA people is Jason Bentley's radio show any good?
What is this "radio" you speak of?
 
Morwen said:
What is this "radio" you speak of?


It's ususally a box, made of plastic and metals. It has knobs, gauges, and dials
and comes standard on most vehicles. I think sometimes they even play a little Jane's Addiction on the little plastic box.
 
Morwen said:
What is this "radio" you speak of?

It's that stuff the government is using, with the help of alien technology, to read your thoughts! BE AFRAID!



And put on a tin foil hat.







Oi, that post even scared me...
 
tymeblind said:
It's ususally a box, made of plastic and metals. It has knobs, gauges, and dials
and comes standard on most vehicles. I think sometimes they even play a little Jane's Addiction on the little plastic box.
No they don't you lying sack of pinocchio noses.
 
Morwen said:
No they don't you lying sack of pinocchio noses.


I heard a joke today you might appreciate,



What's the opposite of Christopher Reeve?

























Christopher Walken :D







ps I just noticed on that pic I posted there is creepy artwork on the back wall just like Hip Hop MC, coincidence?
 
tymeblind said:
I was never a REM fan, whiney bitches if you ask me.


I was sort of hoping that they would jump on the bus with the "shiny happy people" and maybe drive it off a cliff.......
 
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