The Day Freedom Died...

[Zeb_Carter]

A long, long time ago...
I can still remember
How that freedom used to make me smile.
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people dance
And, maybe, they’d be happy for a while.

But february made me shiver
With every paper I’d deliver.
Bad news on the doorstep;
I couldn’t take one more step.

I can’t remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride,
But something touched me deep inside
The day the freedom died.

So bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
Singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Cap-And-Traitors

Posted 06/11/2010 06:58 PM ET
Politics: The Senate just claimed the title of the world's most delusional body by refusing to strip unelected EPA bureaucrats of the power to regulate carbon dioxide as a pollutant. This was the day freedom died.

One wonders why we have a Congress at all. The 53 profiles in cowardice that could not get a cap-and-tax bill through the U.S. Senate voted Thursday to let the Environmental Protection Agency keep the unprecedented power Congress did not expressly give it. It is power that the EPA arrogated to itself through regulation to control every aspect of the American economy and our very lives.

 

[3113]

The Senate just claimed the title of the world's most delusional body by refusing to strip unelected EPA bureaucrats of the power to regulate carbon dioxide as a pollutant. This was the day freedom died.

LOL! Oh, my. That was hilarious! Hyperbolize much? So, you want people to ELECT those who regulate carbon dioxide? Like we elect governors? Of do you just want no one to regulate it and let people pollute as much as they like?

Voting for regulators in is a stupid idea. (1) Most of the public doesn't have the knowledge required to know a good/bad regulator--meaning someone with science background, business acumen, etc. So I really wouldn't trust the public to vote me a pollution regulator any more than I would let them vote me a doctor to keep me healthy. (2) Voted-in regulators would owe those who got them elected--companies that want less regulation, for example. Or more for that matter. What if some "green" company put enough money in to buy really strict regulators? They'd owe that company for buying them ad time and helping them win the election.

Sorry, Zeb, but this is an utterly ridiculous thing to get your panties in a bunch about, especially if you're going to weep about "Freedom" dying! It's not like you've been drafted to go to war or sent to a concentration camp or something like that. Get a clue! Now, if these EPA folk are doing a bad job regulating pollution, I'll happily agree they should go, and that Congress did a bad thing in letting them stay. But I'm not going to agree our freedom dies if we have unelected regulators. We have, in case you haven't noticed it, a lot of folk who make important decisions for us that we, the public, don't get to elect. Like the Generals who run our wars.

 

[Liar]

Cap-And-Traitors

Posted 06/11/2010 06:58 PM ET
Politics: The Senate just claimed the title of the world's most delusional body by refusing to strip unelected EPA bureaucrats of the power to regulate carbon dioxide as a pollutant. This was the day freedom died.

One wonders why we have a Congress at all. The 53 profiles in cowardice that could not get a cap-and-tax bill through the U.S. Senate voted Thursday to let the Environmental Protection Agency keep the unprecedented power Congress did not expressly give it. It is power that the EPA arrogated to itself through regulation to control every aspect of the American economy and our very lives.

So who do you want to determine what substances to regulate as pollutants? Joe Wilson and Charlie Rangel?

Thanks but no thanks. I'd rather leave that to professionals with knowledge in the field (or as you ignorantly and derogatory like to call them, "buerocrats") than to politicians with nothing but reelection on their mind.

Each to their own.

 

[amicus]

Liar....and I should add, et al, since most American's have not been instructed concerning the existence of property rights and to most European's the concept itself is unknown.

Although the American government has gradually eroded the property rights of property owners in addition to taxing the hell out of them, the concept is that if I buy a thousand acres in our State of Wyoming, I own the property, Riparian rights to the water sources and all the mineral rights underground.

Thus, should I hire a 'wildcatter' to explore for oil...or gold, silver, titanium or Lithium (which they just announced their are scads of in Afghanistan), then the benefit and the profit of those discoveries, are mine, as property owner.

It is not just my 'property rights'; each adjacent owner holds equal rights, all protected by property laws that have been in existence since the concept of the private ownership of property was conceived.

Free property owners do not look to government or the EPA of Pigouvian legislation to control, regulate, manage, tax and abscond with the property or the profits, all the necessary controls exist within the framework of property ownership.

It is not the PEOPLES natural resources, not the Kings Elk or the Kings Oil, as it is in Saudi Arabia and most benevolent dictatorships, natural resources have individual or corporate ownership and is exploited as the owner wishes for his own purposes and not the genral welfare of the parasites and the bureaucrats.

Now...the Bureaucrats who feed the parasites by expropriating the wealth of those who produce, always want an increasingly larger share of individual wealth to increase their powsr base among the parasites; those who live off the labor of others.

That is what the Cap & Trade and the EPA kerfuffle is all about; government finding ways around the vote of the people to extort more wealth from those who own and produce.

The so called Environmental Protection Agency of Government has a rich history of destroying and abridging individual property rights through out its long history, all under the guise of eliminating private property owners and their rights.

This concept, alien to most, is the legacy of America that built the greatest industrial nation in the history of the world, is akin to the free market concept, which was the engine of construction for the pre-eminence of the United States in all aspects of human endeavor.

A pity so few Americans even know of their heritage and a shame the Europeans never even had a chance to luxuriate in personal, individual freedom and property rights.

Amicus

 

[Dragonlipz]

Delusional and liars to boot......It would be sad but I can't stop laughing at these two Zub Coot and AmiCoot.....their nonsense and delusions just get bigger and better - like my hard-ons....(this is a forum for 'erotic' authors after all)