The continuing 'quarantine' debate.

[Ishmael]

US policy on the subject remains inconsistent and incoherent. The US troops ordered into the 'hot zone' are going to be quarantined upon exiting the area. That's perfectly fine by me, by why not everyone else?

The administration has offered up the following reasoning on the "why's."

1. The troops were ordered into the zone, they did not volunteer.

2. The troops have not been in contact with any of the infected in those regions.

3. Quarantine will stop volunteers from traveling to the region to help.

My responses are;

1. What in the hell does HOW an individual arrived in the area have anything to do with the issue?

2. This is actually a stronger argument NOT to quarantine the troops. It's basically nonsense offered up as reason.

3. I disagree strongly. If quarantine IS part of the procedure AND those quarantined are treated in a humane manner (unlike the nurse quarantined in New Jersey!!!!! Does anyone thing that putting someone in a tent in a parking lot is treating them with dignity?) I see no particular obstacle. They are guaranteed their job and salary while in quarantine it's just part of the program. I believe their desire to help will trump that temporary inconvenience of quarantine.

Ishmael

 

[Saint Peter]

Tents are cheap and easy to dispose of. The same type of containment could have been put up inside a building. I am sure the contamination and clean up concerns were a major part of that decision. It is extreme. It is also better to error on the side of caution.

Troops? You gotta do what you are asked to do. That is the job. Quarantine for them will be a walk in the park.

 

[Ishmael]

Tents are cheap and easy to dispose of. The same type of containment could have been put up inside a building. I am sure the contamination and clean up concerns were a major part of that decision. It is extreme. It is also better to error on the side of caution.

Troops? You gotta do what you are asked to do. That is the job. Quarantine for them will be a walk in the park.

Your first point is well taken BUT.................Those placed in quarantine under the circumstances of the nurse in New Jersey were NOT displaying any frank symptoms. If, as we are told, Ebola is not communicable until such time as symptoms are frank then why the extreme environment? Under supervised quarantine any jump in temperature or display of symptoms would occur before the individual becomes contagious and they could then be moved to higher isolation facilities. What occurred in New Jersey was extreme by any known standard.

Your second point merely avoids the issue and is still contradictory to publicly stated and implemented policy. In other words you provided an excuse, not a reason.

Ishmael

 

[contrifan32]

I agree the quarantine that the nurse in NJ was subjected to was poorly planned and ridiculous. With that said I think any health care worked who have been working with Ebola patients should be quarantined here in the states for the 21 day period but in a much different way. First these health care worked deserve the best accommodations, comfort and food possible in a centralized facility, one that is staged to with the best hospitalization and isolation facilities should symptoms start to show. If they show no signs of the disease after the 21 day period they have had as close to an all expenses paid 21 day vacation with their normal pay as possible.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

In grad school I learned there are 2 kinds of error: One kind results in inconvenience, one kind is tragic. A quarantine is inconvenient. Flip Wilson said the same thing back in the 60s: WHATEVER DONT FUCK UP YOUR HEALTH IS AN INCONVENIENCE.

 

[Saint Peter]

Your first point is well taken BUT.................Those placed in quarantine under the circumstances of the nurse in New Jersey were NOT displaying any frank symptoms. If, as we are told, Ebola is not communicable until such time as symptoms are frank then why the extreme environment? Under supervised quarantine any jump in temperature or display of symptoms would occur before the individual becomes contagious and they could then be moved to higher isolation facilities. What occurred in New Jersey was extreme by any known standard.

Your second point merely avoids the issue and is still contradictory to publicly stated and implemented policy. In other words you provided an excuse, not a reason.

Ishmael

If a few people spend some time in a tent, so be it. Rights are being stepped on for a greater good. I would not be happy about the accommodations either. I would also rather not hear about her taking trains and strolling around the city while the virus comes to life in her body.

My second point stands. You are in the Army. They tell you when to shit and when to march. That is the job. It is not the job for everybody and the level of commitment required is quite high. That commitment is part of being quarantined. The publicly stated policies change nothing.

 

[miles]

I propose we quarantine the Executive and Legislative branches for a minimum of six months.

 

[Ishmael]

Seems as if our health care professionals can't be trusted either.

NYC Doctor lied.

Ishmael

 

[possum123]

Quarantine every person who comes from an infected area.
It isn't supposed to be a vacation. It is spelled different.
Quarantine--Vacation. See the difference.

People going over there to help the people should gladly do something for the people of the country they are a citizen of. Do they think and care more for the people in another country?
If so let them stay there.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

If a concerned citizen puts a cap in her fat ass she may change her mind about staying home. On the otherhand if she's welcome anywhere those fools deserve ebola.

 

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[Que]

I read the piece by the nurse in NJ. She seems a selfless person and one who could easily have been persuaded to enter a reasonable quarantine situation.

I think the way she was quarantined was a stunt to gin up outrage against the practice.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I propose we quarantine the Executive and Legislative branches for a minimum of six months.

Put them in a concentration camp until you can come up with a Final Solution?

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

I saw the nurse that was quarantined on the news today. She said that she will not stay in home for a voluntary quarantine. Honestly, it's gotten to the point where I hope she does test positive in the next 21 days, just to wipe that smug expression off her face.

 

[phrodeau]

Maybe they aren't being quarantined for Ebola. Maybe they're being quarantined for AIDS.

You know soldiers going abroad will have sex with locals, and there's lots of AIDS-infected people in Africa. And according to Rep. Troy Mader, people with AIDS who continue having sex should be quarantined.

http://billingsgazette.com/news/sta...cle_8bf4fa2e-a550-5eae-a19b-5e5d19210198.html

 

[MeeMie]

Kaci Hickox:
Says 3 days in tent was torture worse than having Ebola.

Now we learn that she is a Far Left Progressive, Obama Supporter, an employee for the Centers for Disease Control and a registered Democrat with a long history of left-wing advocacy.

More and more, sounds like an election agenda. Problem for that agenda is:

According to a recent poll, the public is in favor of a mandatory quarantine for healthcare workers who have treated ebola patients 91% - 9%.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Seems as if our health care professionals can't be trusted either.

NYC Doctor lied.

Ishmael

I've been saying THAT for years. Most are incompetent, malicious, liars, self absorbed, and cowards.

 

[chillywilly2]

Are the troops all quaranteened together or separate.

If its together and only one gets ebola, then they all gotta be quaranteened for another 21 days.

If separate, thats a lotta tents and shit

 

[possum123]

Are the troops all quaranteened together or separate.

If its together and only one gets ebola, then they all gotta be quaranteened for another 21 days.

If separate, thats a lotta tents and shit

No one gives a damn about the troops. They could all die in one big tent and they would just push the whole thing in a hole and cover it up.
Just like they have been covering up the treatment of veterans for years.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I read the piece by the nurse in NJ. She seems a selfless person and one who could easily have been persuaded to enter a reasonable quarantine situation.

I think the way she was quarantined was a stunt to gin up outrage against the practice.

If she gets ebola she's the poster child for narcissism and tantrums. I imagine many of these MDs and nurses cant work in real hospitals.

 

[dan_c00000]

I think the way she was quarantined was a stunt to gin up outrage against the practice.

So Christine quarantined her because he wanted to bring down the rule he implemented?

http://asset-5.soup.io/asset/0298/8297_5321_960.jpeg

 

[Que]

Kaci Hickox:
Says 3 days in tent was torture worse than having Ebola.

Now we learn that she is a Far Left Progressive, Obama Supporter, an employee for the Centers for Disease Control and a registered Democrat with a long history of left-wing advocacy.

More and more, sounds like an election agenda. Problem for that agenda is:

According to a recent poll, the public is in favor of a mandatory quarantine for healthcare workers who have treated ebola patients 91% - 9%.

She will be folded into the phony "war on women" narrative.

 

[eyer]

Kaci Hickox:
Says 3 days in tent was torture worse than having Ebola.

Now we learn that she is a Far Left Progressive, Obama Supporter, an employee for the Centers for Disease Control and a registered Democrat with a long history of left-wing advocacy.

More and more, sounds like an election agenda. Problem for that agenda is:

According to a recent poll, the public is in favor of a mandatory quarantine for healthcare workers who have treated ebola patients 91% - 9%.

LOCK THAT B!TCH UP IN A TENT...

...AND THROW AWAY THE ZIPPER!

 

[eyer]

What totally slays me is that this woman has yet to show a single symptom of Ebola...

...yet, so many demand she be quarantined just in case, you know, for the children or some other such sh!t, because she just might be weaponized, in effect.

Better safe than sorry, eh poindexters?

Yet...

...so many of the bozos clamoring for her anti-individual liberty detention also proclaim, at the very same time, that the tens and tens of millions of Americans walking the streets of America every day locked & loaded are somehow any less threat, when - in fact - those millions are already weaponized, and that at any time any single one of them can - and in fact, do - kill.

One woman's individual liberty is not as vital as all those millions' constitutional right...

...ain't that right, you friggin' frightened, little hypocrites.

 

[eyer]

Judge rejects Ebola quarantine for nurse

FORT KENT, Maine (AP) — A Maine judge gave nurse Kaci Hickox the OK to go wherever she pleases, handing state officials a defeat Friday in their bid to restrict her movements as a precaution against Ebola.

http://www.mail.com/scitech/health/...la-quarantine-nurse.html#.23140-stage-hero1-4