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The consequences of Dems failed "shithole" strategy? Trump: ‘DACA is probably dead’

Tromp has declared Dums "The Enemy". Why should The Enemy help the bastard? Gups have total majorities in both houses. They can pass what they want without The Enemy. Except that they can't because fragmented. Kinda fucked, hey?
 
Good. As the guest lecturer Barack Hussein Obama pointed out early on in this debate the president did not have the authority to do what he later decided he would just do in an effort to get Hispanics to the polls to bolster Democrat chances at election. The Democrats had the House Senate and the White House had made promises to Hispanics to get them to the polls and did absolutely nothing that was actually within their powers when they controlled the entire government in order to change immigration policy legally. Because they actually don't give a shit.

I'm sure the Democrats will use this to vilify Republicans but the reality is they completely one-hundred-percent own any disappointment that they have created by raising false expectations by the extra legal action that DACA was.

Why should Republicans pander to an entire group of illegal aliens that are never going to vote Republican anyway? Why should the Republicans who now control the House Senate in the White House do the very thing that the Democrats didn't feel was important enough to do and which will only benefit Democrats anyway?

just like the last time that Republicans fell for the Lucy pulling the football away moment of amnesty the Democrats have an absolutely no interest in ending this endless cycle of importing new Democrats. We will have this same conversation 20 years hence if they give any form of amnesty now.

This is straight out of the standard Democrat Playbook: what about the children!??

How about we have actual border control and don't allow any more poor waifs in that they can whine about for the next 20 to 40 to 60 to 80 years?
 
Hypoxia said:
Tromp has declared Dums "The Enemy". Why should The Enemy help the bastard? Gups have total majorities in both houses. They can pass what they want without The Enemy. Except that they can't because fragmented. Kinda fucked, hey?
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Why should we tolerate an enemy in our midst?
 
Que said:
Good. As the guest lecturer Barack Hussein Obama pointed out early on in this debate the president did not have the authority to do what he later decided he would just do in an effort to get Hispanics to the polls to bolster Democrat chances at election. The Democrats had the House Senate and the White House had made promises to Hispanics to get them to the polls and did absolutely nothing that was actually within their powers when they controlled the entire government in order to change immigration policy legally. Because they actually don't give a shit.

I'm sure the Democrats will use this to vilify Republicans but the reality is they completely one-hundred-percent own any disappointment that they have created by raising false expectations by the extra legal action that DACA was.

Why should Republicans pander to an entire group of illegal aliens that are never going to vote Republican anyway? Why should the Republicans who now control the House Senate in the White House do the very thing that the Democrats didn't feel was important enough to do and which will only benefit Democrats anyway?

just like the last time that Republicans fell for the Lucy pulling the football away moment of amnesty the Democrats have an absolutely no interest in ending this endless cycle of importing new Democrats. We will have this same conversation 20 years hence if they give any form of amnesty now.

This is straight out of the standard Democrat Playbook: what about the children!??

How about we have actual border control and don't allow any more poor waifs in that they can whine about for the next 20 to 40 to 60 to 80 years?
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Rightguide said:
Why should we tolerate an enemy in our midst?
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By your own standards, neither of you would be allowed in the country if you weren't born here.
 
Luke_Atmydik said:
By your own standards, neither of you would be allowed in the country if you weren't born here.
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By the standards of most countries, you, I or he would not be allowed to work in most countries, much less immigrate there. That is kind of the point.

A lot of countries would probably make exceptions for me if sponsered by an employer as a heavy equipment operator, but I don't think most are currently accepting immigration applications from copy-boys.
 
Que said:
By the standards of most countries, you, I or he would not be allowed to work in most countries, much less immigrate there. That is kind of the point.

A lot of countries would probably make exceptions for me if sponsered by an employer as a heavy equipment operator, but I don't think most are currently accepting immigration applications from copy-boys.
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You're salty today, Q-Bert. Visitation rights rightfully denied again? Who's a copy-boy? I need to hire a driver if you're looking for work, though. FYI- we drug test.
 
SgtSpiderMan said:
"Trump administration forced to renew DACA permits as furor over the president's immigration slur persists"

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-daca-reax-20180114-story.html
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Tromp doesn't like judges enforcing law. Boo fucking hoo. Read the fucking Constitution, Donny. (Oh wait, he couldn't get past the Preamble. Sad.)

Tromp needs only gather his Gups to pass laws killing DACA. But he can't put together a compliant congressional Gup majority -- because many Gups don't see it advancing their own interests. Imagine that.
 
Hypoxia said:
Tromp doesn't like judges enforcing law. Boo fucking hoo. Read the fucking Constitution, Donny. (Oh wait, he couldn't get past the Preamble. Sad.)

Tromp needs only gather his Gups to pass laws killing DACA. But he can't put together a compliant congressional Gup majority -- because many Gups don't see it advancing their own interests. Imagine that.
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What part of constitutional law applies to illegal aliens? Interesting that you could find it when Barack Hussein Obama with his Harvard law degree said that it doesn't exist.
 
Que said:
What part of constitutional law applies to illegal aliens? Interesting that you could find it when Barack Hussein Obama with his Harvard law degree said that it doesn't exist.
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I'm looking at Article III defining judicial powers. Judiciary, not you, gets to decide what is/isn't constitutional. We'll see how this plays out.
 
Hypoxia said:
I'm looking at Article III defining judicial powers. Judiciary, not you, gets to decide what is/isn't constitutional. We'll see how this plays out.
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That isn't actually in the constitution, hence not in Article III.

That is part of the body of case law. Specifically, Marbury versus Madison 1803.

And even that didn't provide random judges power ovee the executive branch, as we've have seen as scotus finally gets around to overturning random, idiotic, partisan court rulings such as the travel ban ones.

Enjoy your temporary, meaningless illusion of victory though.

That sort of nonsense where the left simply refuses to a cede the results of an election is probably going to result in Trump being reelected simply so he can appoint more judges. Judges are not lifetime appointments and many of them are going to replaced in the next three and possibly seven years. You definitely will not be a fan of Mike Pence appointees.

At a minimum I would like to see the 9th circuit split into two possibly three.

No one championing this new "power" of random judges would have seen any validity to a Texas judge issuing an injunction stopping the individual mandate of the ACA or demanding Obama stop issuing approval of applicants to his actually illegal, actually extra-constitutional DACA program.
 
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The Democrats never wanted a deal which is why Durban made up something that did not happen. They would rather have an issue than a solution.
 
WoundedKnee said:
The Democrats never wanted a deal which is why Durban made up something that did not happen. They would rather have an issue than a solution.
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The issue did not come out of the imagination of Durban. It came out of the shithole of the Stable Genius.
 
I do note that as soon as a judge ruled that DACA must go forward, all pretense of negotiation ended. They mean to shut down the government as part of their calculation to return themselves to power.
 
They're going to have to, they know that once that case hits the SCOTUS that it's going to be overturned.
 
Dick Durbin has said some colorful things himself. In 2005, he compared U.S. troops to Nazis, remarks that he was forced to apologize for on the Senate floor.

In 2013, during the debt ceiling negotiations, Dick was caught straight up lying, alleging that one GOP congressional leader told the president, “I can’t even stand to look at you.” This never happened.

Now, circling back to the "chain migration" part, that's problematic for Mr. Durbin now? What changed? In 2007, a statement from his office included a portion, where it said the DREAM Act wouldn’t lead to “chain migration."
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...ory-about-a-gop-leader-insulting-pre-n2433826
 
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