The Confederate flag will be taken down at 10 a.m. today

[gotsnowgotslush]

Death threats against those who said yes, to the removal of the Confederate flag from public property.

(There will be investigations...)

Robocalls, concerning "leftists."


The Confederate flag will be taken down at 10 a.m. today from the Statehouse complex, ending a controversial chapter in South Carolina’s history that spanned half a century.

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150710/PC1603/150719976

The removal comes roughly 18 hours into a 24-hour deadline that began the moment Gov. Nikki Haley signed legislation sending the battle flag to the Confederate Relic Room and Military Museum, away from the Capitol Complex’s grounds.


http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/...ally-exorcises-a-divisive-anachronistic-demon

Second American Civil War came to an end. You can still buy Confederate flag apparel from Dixie Outfitters. You can still watch Gone With the Wind. And you can still purchase any number of Confederate-friendly revisionist history books on the internet and elsewhere. There are no thought crimes here in the United States. The First Amendment still rules our nation. But from this day forth, you'll probably want to think twice about waving that flag in public — not out of fear of violence, but out of a greater fear, one of being ostracized.

Because that is what has just happened.

The Confederate battle flag is now merely a historic relic, an artifact of a darker time, one in which the only people worth honoring are those who fought to strike it — and what it represents - down.

20 state representatives who voted against the bill to remove the Confederate battle flag from Statehouse grounds in its final reading:

Rep. Eric M. Bedingfield (R-Greenville)

Rep. James Mikell "Mike" Burns (R-Greenville)

Rep. William M. "Bill" Chumley (R-Spartanburg)

Rep. Christopher A. Corley (R-Aiken)

Rep. F. Gregory "Greg" Delleney, Jr. (R-Chester)

Rep. Kevin Hardee (R-Horry)

Rep. Jonathon D. Hill (R-Anderson)

Rep. Jeffrey E. "Jeff" Johnson (R-Horry)

Rep. Ralph Shealy Kennedy, Jr. (R-Lexington)

Rep. Dwight A. Loftis (R-Greenville)

Rep. Dennis C. Moss (R-Cherokee)

Rep. V. Stephen "Steve" Moss (R-Cherokee)

Rep. Wendy K. Nanney (R-Greenville)

Rep. Joshua A. Putnam (R-Anderson)

Rep. J. Gary Simrill (R-York)

Rep. L. Kit Spires (R-Lexington)

Rep. Tommy M. Stringer (R-Greenville)

Rep. Bill Taylor (R-Aiken)

Rep. Anne J. Thayer (R-Anderson)

Rep. W. Brian White (R-Anderson)


Here are the six representatives who did not vote:

• Rep. Michael A. Pitts (R-Laurens)

• Rep. Mike Ryhal (R-Horry)

• Rep. William E. "Bill" Sandifer, III (R-Oconee)

• Rep. Edward L. Southard (R-Berkeley)

• Rep. McLain R. "Mac" Toole (R-Lexington)

• Rep. William R. "Bill" Whitmire (R-Oconee)

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/...o-voted-against-removing-the-confederate-flag

House Republicans pushed to replace the Confederate flag with a less-known Civil War battle flag or the S.C. state flag as a way to honor the Confederate dead.

Absurd amendments – such as removing all the other monuments on the Capitol grounds – came and went.

And as midnight approached, a vote on removing the Confederate flag seemed remote.

Gov. Nikki Haley and others lawmakers wanted the flag gone by week’s end. They got their wish.

http://www.thestate.com/news/politi...s-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article26929588.html


House Minority Leader Todd Rutherford, D-Richland also helped, Quinn said, by promising not to mount efforts to remove any other monuments from the State House grounds. But Rutherford has said reading material about the statues at the State House need to reflect who the leaders were instead of “white-wash(ing) our history.”


The Confederate flag will be lowered for the last time, furled and sent to the South Carolina Confederate Relic Room & Military Museum, where it will be housed.

(Millions of dollars ?)

The House vote may even bring immediate benefits to South Carolina. NAACP President Cornell William Brooks said the group will move to lift its five-year economic boycott against the state during a national convention this weekend.

“When the flag comes down, we lift the boycott,” he told CNN’s “The Situation Room” Thursday. Removing the flag in South Carolina is an important symbolic victory, he said. But he added that there are battles still to be fought in other states where “emblems of bigotry and bias,"...

 

[RjThoughts]

In addition, the state can now bid on NCAA tournament and playoff games! More economic benefits!

 

[lovecraft68]

The Confederate battle flag is now merely a historic relic, an artifact of a darker time, one in which the only people worth honoring are those who fought to strike it — and what it represents - down..

So all the young men who died for the South for a cause they believed in-or in some cases simply had to fight for....are worthless.

You people are real beauts.

Know what's worthless? Internet crusaders like you people, would anyone here die for anything in your soft pathetic existence?

Doubt it.

Do I have an issue with the flag coming down from the state? Not really, but comments like what I quoted are appallingly ignorant.

 

[phrodeau]

(edited)

So all the young men who died for the South for a cause they believed in-or in some cases simply had to fight for....are worthless.

They are not worthless, but they are dead. They no longer give a shit about any flags.

 

[RjThoughts]

So all the young men who died for the South for a cause they believed in-or in some cases simply had to fight for....are worthless.

You people are real beauts.

Know what's worthless? Internet crusaders like you people, would anyone here die for anything in your soft pathetic existence?

Doubt it.

Do I have an issue with the flag coming down from the state? Not really, but comments like what I quoted are appallingly ignorant.

People need to learn about Robert E. Lee's views on what to do with the flag once the war was over.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/15/even-robert-e-lee-wanted-the-confederate-flag-gone.html

 

[IrezumiKiss]

They are not worthless, but they are dead. They no longer give a shit about any flags.

I'm still trying to figure out what sort of "honor" it is for those who died for the confederate flag to be printed on the crotch and backside areas of underwear.

Where people piss and poop from, y'know.

You'd think those poor souls would be happy the flag is being recognized in state museums instead of being in stank taints and between buttcheeks.

 

[RjThoughts]

I'm still trying to figure out what sort of "honor" it is for those who died for the confederate flag to be printed on the crotch and backside areas of underwear.

Where people piss and poop from, y'know.

You'd think those poor souls would be happy the flag is being recognized in state museums instead of being in stank taints and between buttcheeks.

I never understood why ANY flag, whether the Confed or the US, is used as an article of clothing.

 

[oggbashan]

I never understood why ANY flag, whether the Confed or the US, is used as an article of clothing.

It all started in 1960s 'Swinging London'.

The Union Flag was first used on pop mini dresses, then underwear. We don't have the same tradition about reverence to the Union Flag that applies to the Stars and Stripes.

We do treat it formally when it, or other flags, are flown at military establishments, but we can and do use it where it would be offensive to put the Stars and Stripes.

We understand the US tradition. We don't share it.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Front Page News

Coming less than 24 hours after the South Carolina House voted, to remove the Confederate battle flag from the capitol grounds in Columbia-

pg A16 New York Times July 10, 2015 Friday

South Carolina Settles Its Decades- Old Dispute Over a Confederate Flag

Gov. Nikki R. Haley cannot seek re-election, and she is somewhat mmune from the fierce opposition of the flag supporters.

Her handling of the crisis has raised her national profile.

gsgs comment-
Hard to believe that Sarah Palin endorsed her, but the NY Times has it in print.
Might we say Senator Haley ?
/end gsgs comment

"The N.A.A.C.P. which has for the last 15 years imposed an economic boycott on the state over the flag, will consider lifting the boycott at its yearly convention-
Which will begin this Saturday in Hiladelphia, Cornell Williams Brooks, president of the group, said Thursday."

"A change had to come."

"It represents the dark past as a symbol of separation, a symbol of division, a symbol of hate."

A17 New York Times July 10, 2015

Three days of fighting (over the display of the Confederate flag)
Tuesday night-
Democrats offer amendments to block funding for Confederate flags in federal cemetaries and prohibit Confederate flags from being sold in (government sponsored) gift shops and concession stands

Wednesday night-
Republicans demand a reversal.

Rep. Ken Calvert offered an amendment to undo the Democrats' legislation.

The War of Speeches

Thursday-

"No Republicans came to the floor to defend or oppose the amendment."

The words of Rep. G.K. Butterfield-

"Don't Republicans understand that the Church confederate flag is an insult to 40 million African Americans and many other fair minded Americans ?"

The Spending Bill

Money for the museum, not money for Confederate flags...

A16

The Debate

After hours of emotional debate that ended early Thursday morning, members of the South Carolina House voted to remove the Confederate flag from the State House grounds in Columbia.

Gov. Nikkei Haley, who called for the measure, signed it into law on Thursday.
Before the vote, lawmakers delivered speeches for and against taking down the flag.

What did Michael A. Pitts do ?
He introduced dozens of amendments.
He and his family stick to the term, "War of Northern Aggression."
He believes that the Yankees attacked the South.
He voted against the removal of the Confederate flag on a preliminary vote.
He abstained during the final role call.

Jenny Anderson Horne

"I cannot believe that we do not have the heart, in this body, to do something meaningful such as take a symbol of hate off these grounds." (On Friday.)
"For the widow of Senator Pinckney and his two young daughters, that would be adding to insult to injury. And I will not be a part of it."


"I was just trying to remove the flag from the State House grounds. That's all I was trying to do."

gsgs comment-

Thank you, Jenny Anderson Horne.
You helped to bring peace to many hearts.

/end gsgs comment