The Clintons again..............

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How you people defend these guys is a joke!! The Clintons are bad seeds and they will do anything for votes....


Sen. Clinton's Ex-Finance Director Indicted
Saturday, January 08, 2005

WASHINGTON — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's former finance director has been indicted on charges of filing fictitious reports that misstated contributions for a Hollywood fund-raising gala for the senator, the Justice Department said Friday.

The indictment, rare for a political campaign, was unsealed in Los Angeles charging David Rosen (search) with four counts of filing false reports with the Federal Election Commission (search). The charges focus on an Aug. 12, 2000, dinner and concert supported by more than $1.1 million in "in-kind contributions" — goods and services provided for free or below cost. The event was estimated to cost more than $1.2 million.

The FBI previously said in court papers that it had evidence the former first lady's campaign deliberately understated its fund-raising costs so it would have more money to spend on her campaign.

While the event allegedly cost more than $1.2 million, the indictment said, Rosen reported contributions of about $400,000, knowing the figure to be false.

The indictment charged that he provided some documents to an FEC compliance officer but withheld the true costs of the event and provided false documents to substantiate the lower figure.

In one instance, Rosen obtained and delivered a fraudulent invoice stating the cost of a concert associated with the gala was $200,000 when he know that figure was false, according to the indictment. The actual cost of the concert was more than $600,000.


Each of the four counts of making a false statement carries a maximum penalty of up to five years in prison and up to $250,000 in fines upon conviction.

Rosen's attorney, Paul Mark Sandler, did not return a call asking for comment. Mrs. Clinton's lawyer on campaign finance matters, David Kendall, said, "The Senate Campaign Committee has fully cooperated with the investigation. Mr. Rosen worked hard for the campaign, and we trust that when all the facts are in, he will be cleared."

The businessman who hosted the event, Peter Paul, has told federal authorities that it cost more than $1 million and that he had been surprised when he saw that most of the contributions were not reported.

The money from the fund-raiser went to Mrs. Clinton's successful campaign for a Senate seat from New York, the Democrats' national Senate campaign organization and a state Democratic Party committee.

The joint fund raising made the rules more complicated because the gala raised both "hard money" — funds given to candidates subject to federal limits — and "soft money" that was unregulated and unlimited under the former campaign finance law.

Underreporting the cost of the event allowed the committee to spend less of the coveted hard money, contributions that unlike soft money could be used to cover Clinton's campaigning costs.

Federal law governing such joint fund-raisers was designed to prevent joint committees from circumventing restrictions on the contributions given directly to candidates.

Most allegations of campaign finance irregularities are handled administratively through the FEC, although the Justice Department has investigated such matters in the past.

During former President Clinton's administration, a Justice Department campaign finance task force charged more than two dozen individuals and two corporations with fund-raising abuses from the 1996 election cycle. Many of the charges involved Democratic fund raising.

In addition to his Clinton effort, Rosen has raised money for several other high-profile Democratic candidates, including former presidential hopeful Wesley Clark. Most recently, he was named to the fund-raising team of Donnie Fowler, a candidate for the Democratic National Committee chairmanship.

"I'm sorry that that happened to David, but I don't think it's going to stop or slow down the campaign for chair," Fowler said in a telephone interview Friday.
 
These are people who took items out of the Whitehouse that didnt belong to them when they changed administrations.

THAT in a nutshell says it all!
 
You guys just believe any bullshit the Republican propoganda machine feeds you, don't you?
 
Queersetti said:
You guys just believe any bullshit the Republican propoganda machine feeds you, don't you?


which item??
 
Beco said:
which item??

All of the above.

Every allegation made in this thread remains unproved.

As for the "missing w's", the GAO investigated and found no evidence that it was true. When asked to provide evidence of the claims of White House vandalism, Ari Fleischer backed down.

But, hey, if it was on Fox news, it must be true, right?
 
Queersetti said:
All of the above.

Every allegation made in this thread remains unproved.

As for the "missing w's", the GAO investigated and found no evidence that it was true. When asked to provide evidence of the claims of White House vandalism, Ari Fleischer backed down.

But, hey, if it was on Fox news, it must be true, right?



I think Ari Fleischer chose not to pursue it, call it backing down if you like. Fact of the matter is they did trash the Whitehouse, pretty sad
 
Beco said:
I think Ari Fleischer chose not to pursue it, call it backing down if you like. Fact of the matter is they did trash the Whitehouse, pretty sad

It's not a fact.

Ari Fleischer claimed that outgoing Clinton staffers (not the Clinton's personally, as you are apparently charging) vandalized the White House before they left.

The GAO investigated, and said it was not true.

When confronted with the results of the GAO investigation, Fleischer claimed he wasn't pursuing the matter because he wanted to "set a new tone". Of course, he continued to be stidently partisan in regard to every other issue, and only chose to take the high road on the issue on which he had just been shown to be lying.
 
Queersetti said:
You guys just believe any bullshit the Republican propoganda machine feeds you, don't you?


Yeah, keep your head in the sand QS. They belong in prison and you very well know it.
 
DevilishTexan said:
Yeah, keep your head in the sand QS. They belong in prison and you very well know it.

And your current puppet and the man pulling his strings doesn't?
 
Angel said:
And your current puppet and the man pulling his strings doesn't?

Are you agreeing the Clinton's belong in jail but only if Bush goes too?
 
DevilishTexan said:
Yeah, keep your head in the sand QS. They belong in prison and you very well know it.


Whitewater. Exonerated.

Filegate. Exonerated.

Vince Foster. Exonerated.

Travelgate. Exonerated.

Ad infinitum....
 
Queersetti said:
Whitewater. Exonerated.

Filegate. Exonerated.

Vince Foster. Exonerated.

Travelgate. Exonerated.

Ad infinitum....


Sure, whatever you say. Everyone knows they're completely innocent.
 
DevilishTexan said:
Sure, whatever you say. Everyone knows they're completely innocent.

No politicians are completely innocent.

But, as the Clinton's are probably the most investigated politicians in history, and no proof of any wrongdoing other than in the Lewinsky matter has ever been presented, maybe it's time the right wing stop obsessing about them and realize that we have current problems, domestically and internationally, that require attention.
 
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