the christianity hoax: how did it go so wrong so fast.

[Todd]

Surely those who perpetrated the hoax to begin with had no idea that there plan would end up as twasted as it was.


I mean yeah they found this temple magician Jesus and figured that thy could use him to thier advantage. a few slight of hand mircales here and there. A faked death of a friend raise him up that will really impress people now, especiall if hes been in there a weak and we put some rotting meat inthere for smell factor just to convince the people.


walking on water that will amaze the masses. a few well placed rocks here and there maybe a rope bnbridge from one boat to the next. the people were far on sure they would never know the difference.


peter, paul, james john, mary & and the other mary all they really wanted was to scare the behebers out of the romans like theier anscestors did so long ago in babylon and egypt. they had no intnetion of starting a new religion they just wanted to use thier history and religion and replicate a few cool happenings that would scare thier oppressors.


but the death burial , resurrection. they had to go to far, take that one extra step to plunge mankind in a dark 2000+- spiritual oppression. they didn't mean for it to go so far. they didn't want to start a new religion. they just wanted to use thier own get out from under thier oppressors.


what were they thinking as they watched this hoax grow like a wildfire wildweed in the next 70 years. surely they tried to stop, but why wouldn't people listen. were the old ways really that had under the roman oppresors.


they didn't have to go and run all their days, get thrown in jail for thier religion, get feds to lions for sport because of a hoax gone wrong.


why did the masses buy it up so hook line and sinker? why did it take a hold the way it did? is it simply 2000+- masshysteria? can mas hysteria last 2000+- years? What went so wrong, all they wanted was a little peace from the romans?

 

[KillerMuffin]

Yeah, 10 million lemmings can't be wrong.

 

[Todd]

Yeah, 10 million lemmings can't be wrong.

yeah they can

 

[Thomas Paine]

Todd, wouldn't self-flagellation be a whole lot easier?

 

[Never]

Thomas Paine:
"Todd, wouldn't self-flagellation be a whole lot easier?"

Todd can self-flagellate? That's a neat trick for a lesbain but that's not going to help him get into KillerMuffin's knickers. She doesn't find lesbain/men who can suck themselves off sexy.

 

[shadowsource]

I suspect Jesus meant well.

He got carried away and was treated very badly. How this bold theo-socialist preacher wound up as the figurehead for the military-pharmaceutical industrial complex is far beyond my imagination, but it never ceases to amaze me. He'd be furious. And hurt.

 

[Demian]

Christians aren't like Jesus...

Jesus wuz the Real McCoy...

Never, that avatar iz so fuckin' fantastic...

I love geiger (sp?)

Title: Never means Never

 

[Guest]

Well here are some tidbits that I have learned over the years and is somthing to think about..

1) Jesus had written his owne Bible and is locked up in the Middle east somewhere, because the Christians don't want every one to know that he was against CHURCHES and the Coruption that they make..

2) The Holy Bible was interpeted and reinterpeted written and re weritten over many centuries to the beliefs of the people that were interpeting them.. not the original authers. and Hence if you wanted to say this: that is also a deffinition of a Mythology..

3)ON the Search for the Holy Grail there was a Biship called the Smiling Bishup. When he heard about the news that one of the Knights had found he never smiled again.. that news was that Jesus was taken from the Cross and lived out the rest of his days with Mary Magnolin in Central Europe..

4) Our yearly dating system is based on the birth of Christ and was Created by a man named Thomas Aquinas in the 13th century, he was also the man who wrote the first version of the King James Version of the Holy Bible..

5) For centuries Aristotle was banned from the Christian reading but since the first Crusades alote of his beliefs had been added to the Holy Scriptures.. that were previously based on the beliefs of Socrates and Plato.. (read some of Platos, and Aristotles works and compare the all of what is said in all of the books as spiritual beliefs, and you may be surprised)

You know it is amazing what you can learn from reading and doing some research..

BTW I could go on about how Christianity is the most Violent and Cruelest religion of all time.. But I wont..

E

 

[Nobody Special]

BTW
the previous post is Mine the one with the #s on it is all mine and I take full Credit for it.. thank you

E

 

[Unclebill]

Originally posted by KillerMuffin
Yeah, 10 million lemmings can't be wrong.

Wouldn't that number range into the hundreds of millions?

And are you so sure they couldn't be wrong?

On second thought, I must accede to your expertise. After all, the church did prove Galileo wrong on that earth is round thingy of his a few hundred years ago, didn't they? I'm sure he deserved prison for that one.

 

[Laurel]

Hi Uncle_Bill!!

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Jesus wuz the Real McCoy...

I thought that was Walter Brennan? Okay, then Jesus was who? Roy Rogers' sidekick? "The Wiley Gang has taken up camp across the river. I'll go down twenty miles to the bridge. Jesus, you walk straight across..."

 

[p_p_man]

It's A HOAX!!!

Oh Christ, after all that, the bloody thing is a hoax...

 

[SpectreT]

Oh, for the love of god (Whatever name or names you choose to hang on the deity)! 2000 years either was seven years ago or seven years from now, depending on which way the foolery went with the calendar. Both the Romans and the Hebrews were methodical record-keepers, yet there was no record anywhere save the mythology of the gospels of the birth of a Ieshua bin Iosef of Nazareth, despite the fact that Iosef had been (mythologically) forced to sequester himself and his (pregnant) bride in an inkeeper's stable in his home town due to a Roman Census! Nor was there any record of two inconclusive heresy trials for this selfsame Ieshua bin Iosef, nor any record of a (railroaded, long before there were railroads) sedition trial that ended in the Roman execution of this Ieshua bin Iosef. Furthermore Roman Census was traditionally taken in what is now the month of August, so the Holy Mother (boy, I'll say...) Church had to have moved the holy day of his birth. The fact that it obscures a pagan holy day, as well as Channakuh, is purely coincidence...

I've gotten into this with the Toddster before, but he pulled some Infallibility malarkey out of his tuchas on me, so I decided to leave his faith alone, provided he didn't try to canonize me.

 

[Marxist]

Recipe for Christianity:

Take a minor Jewish mystical sect that believes in the Dionysus / Osiris myth. Persecute well. Let stew for a few hundred years until you need a "state" religion. Make sure you remove those pesky Gnostic seeds before spreading world wide. Serves the purpose of whoever is in power. Good Eatin'!

 

[Thomas Paine]

That would be "fellate," damn it!

Todd can self-flagellate?

Why did you have to put THAT image in my head?

 

[Sateema Lunasi]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Todd]

Can somebody please adress the topic.

how did the Pontious Pilate prank go so far it wasn't meant to.

it was only suppose to last a week or so.

 

[Marxist]

I'm confused. Are you saying that Jesus and friends pulled a prank or Pontius Pilate?

What if I said that it's not a prank if you make the whole thing up?

What if I said if you look at the Dionysus / Osiris myth you find a one-to-one parallel for all of the "mystical" acts of Christ.

Todd, I don't know what school Christianity you belong to but obviously you dropped out a semester early. The central tenet of your religion is faith. And you're not going to find a whole lot of it on a porn board.

 

[Trinka]

rofl

I'm a non-denominational christian and the bible that I've been reading and studying isn't what I was taught grewing up as a roman catholic. From what you've posted, it sounds like your talking about catholics and protestants, not christians.

I am not part of a religion or the hoax you are talking about. In fact, the church I attend for bible study does not have any members. As the pastor will tell you, he is not even a member. We are a group of people who come together to learn.

Being a Christian means accepting Jesus Christ as your savior (you know I had to say that) that is all. It is all about a personal relationship with God. Being required to say so many prayers and/or doing rituals because you will be dammed to hell was something manufactured as part of the evil plot you're talking about.

so, there's my $0.02

 

[Todd]

I'm confused. Are you saying that Jesus and friends pulled a prank or Pontius Pilate?

What if I said that it's not a prank if you make the whole thing up?

What if I said if you look at the Dionysus / Osiris myth you find a one-to-one parallel for all of the "mystical" acts of Christ.

Todd, I don't know what school Christianity you belong to but obviously you dropped out a semester early. The central tenet of your religion is faith. And you're not going to find a whole lot of it on a porn board.

There you go again talking like christianity was really real.

We are talking about the hoax.

It wasn't meant to take over as a world religion.

you know how those jews they wanted to get out from under they tyranny so they took a mix of a few religions pulled a few funky magic routines.

But we all kknow it wasn't suppose to last so long.

it was a moses stunt, supposed to last just long enough to get the jews out.

but something went wrong, they performed a fake miracle to many. the perpetrators were to serious .

It was a sham, a hoax, a jewish conspiracy theory come to life.

It was just supposed to shake up the romans for a few years so the jews could make a run for it.

something went wrong the hoax only intended for the imediate romans but something went wrong it went global that wasn't supposed to happen.

ps. - I am trying to work with you people and you still disagree. Y'all so hard to work with.

 

[rahfirst]

What' yer point, Todd?

I mean, really, what's your point? Why bring religion up on this BB? Is not religion a thing for church or is it evangilizing you mean to do?

There won't be many Christians here to snipe at and you won't get much pro-Christian arguement from most others here. So I ask you again, what's your point.

Religion as a general idea is a matter of faith, faith being described as belief in things invisible and untouchable. The free thinkers here will never be convinced of the devinity of Christ and anyone herein who is well founded in Christian faith will not be swayed to atheist or agnosticism. So, what your point?

In order one to be changed, truely changed to accept the truth of one God and His Christ, one's heart must be touched by the Holy Spirit. In order to be touched by the Holy Spirit of God, one's heart and MIND must be open to receive and understand what is said. Said not by the priest, preacher, or evangelist, but by God Himself. Those who are busy giving the raspberry or laughing Christ and His followers to scorn will never even feel the closeness of God's Spirit much less open themselves to receive His love and guidance. So, one last time, what's your point

 

[Todd]

I am not trying to get a prochristian arguement going

I am trying to get a hoax education calss going for myself

by examining the worlds greatest haox, one that has last 2000+- years

i want to learn waht made it possible for such a hoax to last such a long time, cause i want to start a hoax myself that has such longevity.

my best hoax only lasted 2 months

I want to create one that surpasses the christianity hoax.

Thats why i posted, i want to learn how to make a new one happen

 

[Guest]

Dear Todd,

You're an asshole and a mistake. Next time post something about cunt and cocks. You're on a porn site for God sakes!

P.S.--I'm not coming back because I never left. After I get done with the Pope, I'm going to impale you on the giant cock at the center of the universe for annoying everyone.

P.P.S.--Everyone else except Todd, party on!

God

 

[Unclebill]

Originally posted by Todd
But we all kknow it wasn't suppose to last so long.

Okay, I'm a little dense, I suppose but just how do we know this among a myriad of other things related? Do you have the manuscript or something?

Originally posted by Todd
It was a sham, a hoax, a jewish conspiracy theory come to life.

Are you sure it wasn't a Roman plan? After all, isn't the Roman Catholic Church the single Christian religious sect with the greatest share of the Christian population under its influence? Seems to me the Romans are the ones of primary bebefit.

Originally posted by rahfirst
Religion as a general idea is a matter of faith, faith being described as belief in things invisible and untouchable. The free thinkers here will never be convinced of the devinity of Christ and anyone herein who is well founded in Christian faith will not be swayed to atheist or agnosticism. So, what your point?

Let's be a tad more accurate. Faith in the context of religion means belief in something without the benefit of proof or evidence, i. e., acceptance of the irrational, a source of knowledge without basis in reality.

Faith is a term also used (perhaps inaccurately) to describe the acceptance of certain scientifically based knowledge. For example, I cannot see air (well, living in SoCal, sometimes you can) but I know it's there. Likewise I cannot see the constituent particles comprising an atom (or the atom itself for that matter) but I believe in that as factual based on scientific evidence.

Originally posted by rahfirst
In order one to be changed, truely changed to accept the truth of one God and His Christ, one's heart must be touched by the Holy Spirit. In order to be touched by the Holy Spirit of God, one's heart and MIND must be open to receive and understand what is said. Said not by the priest, preacher, or evangelist, but by God Himself.

All that said, just how does one go about this? What evidence beyond one's own perception is there to ascertain that such a thing ever happens other than in the mind (imagination) of the one so touched? This is the marvelously and ingeniously clever part of religion. There is no evidence or proof. Thus one must accept ONLY on faith; on that mystical, inexplicable, indefinable, imperceptible, unprovable source of knowledge without question.

It's like the magnificent proclamation of life after death (an interesting dichotomy in itself, don't you think?), sort of like reincarnation in other religions. For if it is not true, how does one prove the falsity? But were it true, the proof would be so elementally simple, merely one person would have to reappear and offer some scientifically verifiable evidence. But no such evidence has been forthcoming for many generations, thus to say the least, I'm skeptical which explains my atheism.

Originally posted by TODD'S GOD
Dear Todd,

You're an asshole and a mistake. Next time post something about cunt and cocks. You're on a porn site for God sakes!

P.S.--I'm not coming back because I never left. After I get done with the Pope, I'm going to impale you on the giant cock at the center of the universe for annoying everyone.

P.P.S.--Everyone else except Todd, party on!

God

Toddy, my boy, I wouldn't even give this post even the slightest consideration. After all, it's only from God. Now if it had come from Laurel, I'd advise you to take heed quite hastily for there is one great difference between God and Laurel - Laurel is REAL!