The age requirement here is driving me nuts!!!!

[notnorthern]

Please someone help me?!

First, I want to say how much I love and respect and appreciate all of the work that the Literotica staff does for people like me and all of us.

Now...

It took 8 days for Literotica to tell me that my story had a too young character. It's based on my personal life and I was 17 but who cares, its just based on truth, right.

So I fix the ages even though Louisiana's age of consent is 17. I change my character from 16-17 to 17-18. There is NO SEX while the girl is 17 none. Not even handholding, there was hand touching, though. They were never in private until AFTER 18. Then they fucked.

So, can someone please explain how an 18 year old having sex with a 26 year old is against the law and is child abuse? Am I not to have anyone even MEETING until both are 18??? I have a beautiful , autobiographical story here that seems to not be meeting Lit's standards over and over again. I am not writing child abuse stories, my God!

To top it off, the ending was cut off! When I did the editing, the end was definitely there! Urgh!


HILFE!!!! What do I do to make this story acceptable? Should I just not write it because I need to include how they met and how long the knew eachother. I can send you the story by e-mail, if yomeone would like to go over it for me.

Thanks people!

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Please someone help me?!

First, I want to say how much I love and respect and appreciate all of the work that the Literotica staff does for people like me and all of us.

Now...

It took 8 days for Literotica to tell me that my story had a too young character. It's based on my personal life and I was 17 but who cares, its just based on truth, right.

So I fix the ages even though Louisiana's age of consent is 17. I change my character from 16-17 to 17-18. There is NO SEX while the girl is 17 none. Not even handholding, there was hand touching, though. They were never in private until AFTER 18. Then they fucked.

So, can someone please explain how an 18 year old having sex with a 26 year old is against the law and is child abuse? Am I not to have anyone even MEETING until both are 18??? I have a beautiful , autobiographical story here that seems to not be meeting Lit's standards over and over again. I am not writing child abuse stories, my God!

To top it off, the ending was cut off! When I did the editing, the end was definitely there! Urgh!


HILFE!!!! What do I do to make this story acceptable? Should I just not write it because I need to include how they met and how long the knew eachother. I can send you the story by e-mail, if yomeone would like to go over it for me.

Thanks people!

Characters cast in sexual situations must be 18. Even if no sex occurs, if you are ading graphic detail to the livfe of a character who is under 17 and there is an erotic component, not sex, just an erotic component, it will be rejected.

The easiest fix is to simply start the characters meeting at 18. Normally, if you mention no ages, you can get a story in as long as the characters would seem to fit the age requirement, I.e. Seniors in HS or freshment in college. Since you have been rejected for it, just state implicitly the girl is 18.

Alternately, if you feel the back story of her life pre 18 is NOT erotic in content, PM, don't email, but PM laurel and ask her to review the story. Expalin the set up and the agees to her and and ask her to review it.

Above all, don't let the frustration get to you. remain calm and polite. The 18 rule is hard and fast here. If you just can't tell a stroy without using characters who haven't reached their majorioty by lit's criteria, consider posting to a site that isn't so strict in it's guidelines.

-Colly

 

[nushu2]

Try being a bit vague. Say teen instead of seventeen. It's sounds like you didn't write underage porn so, now, it's a bit of editing to comply to the rules.

 

[The_Darkness]

I had a couple of chapters of my New Mysteries story arc rejected, so I went through and very specifically stated ages.

I was worried about my Mother's Day story because it states that the leading lady had the leading man when she was 14....but there wasn't anything erotic or sexual implied or directly stated....simply that she had him when she was very young.

You can bend the rules, but not break them.

And yes, the submission, waiting, rejection, resubmission process can be sucky, but just hold on and wait....they'll get to 'em....they have real lives and stuff that they do, too.

 

[Lisa Denton]

If you need it in the story you can still make it come across with and innocent, naive 18 year old. You know, grew up in a convent or somethin, he, he.

Laurel explained to me once they hate censorship in any way, shape or form, but cannot break rules, even lil ones, and put the whole site at risk. She wasn't even talkin about the age thingie, which I would assume it goes double for that.

You need a laugh, I got this PM on a forum where I am admin.

"Dear Lisa, I had to sign in under a different ID than I wanted. Apparently the first time signing in I accidentally clicked a button sayin I was underage. It gave me a screen that said I needed to print, have my parents sign for permission, scan and send to you. Anything you can do to help?"

I replied that there was only two things I could think of, she could send me the permission slip, but I wouldn't accept anything signed by "mommy", or a better idea which I have already done which is to delete that member, now you should be able to sign up with that ID.

 

[R. Richard]

I replied that there was only two things I could think of, she could send me the permission slip, but I wouldn't accept anything signed by "mommy", or a better idea which I have already done which is to delete that member, now you should be able to sign up with that ID.

Lisa:
I can even deal with "mommy." It's the ones signed "my mother" that make me crazy!

 

[notnorthern]

I really like the name Colleen a lot. Colleen and Evan, meine kinder...one day, one day.

Thank you all for the advice. I changed the language to be non-erotic while she is 17. Once she truns 18, it gets dirty!

It kinda makes me not too happy that the character is older now. This is based on me and by the time I was 18, I was Mormon, not catholic and chillin' with the priesthood candidate! Oh well...

Now I have another question that's on another thread but thanks people for your advice. Kept me from crying in frustration

 

[dr_mabeuse]

It seems to me that mentioning a character's age is on a par with mentioning their dick size in inches or bra size. Isn't it just a lazy way to try and pump some naughtiness into a story? Doesn't the way a character talks and acts and looks tell the reader enough about their age?

 

[pop_54]

It's actually nothing to do with the law, legal law that is... there is no age law in fiction writing, or factual writing for that matter, both are still unsullied by strict censorship thank goodness, otherwise a hell of a lot of mainstream fiction works and newspaers would be out of print by now, and we would never have such naughty classics as Lolita and deep throat to mention just a couple... Porn law actually only covers the age of persons depicted in picture and image format, and the age of persons allowed to view pornographic works and images.

It is actually still legal to display artistic images of underage girls and boys naked as long as there is no sexual or sensual intent or depiction in those images, and as long as the child is not with a member of the opposite sex in the picture if it is intended to be artistic and legal, also such pictures should not be displayed alongside pornographic images, ie on a porn site like this one... Of course I'm going on UK law here, US law might have been changed recently.

What laurel and other site admin are doing is ensuring that their site doesn't come under close scrutiny from the authorities for publishing dodgy looking tackle that attracts their attention, and rightly so, why give the narrow minded PC brigade and religious nuts amunition to snipe at us all... Sites that apply the written works rules the same as the porn image rules they can't go wrong... So all reference to persons below 18 yrs is banned regardless of content around them... Unfortunately this does make writing semi fiction with factual content a nightmare, one cannot have kids born before they're 18 yrs old, that's damn difficult, and I'd think damn painful for the mother.

A writer can try to write a life like story with young people in it, not engaging in sex acts of course, or anywhere near sex acts, and ask Laurel nicely to publish it, but it is down to her to decide, and nine times out of ten any person under 18 will be excluded or the tale won't get in... As said previously, there are sites that take on stories with underage content, even sexual content, where the admin don't give a damn, but these are dodgy sites and even if your story has no underage sex in it, you will come under the close scrutiny of the thought police being lumped in with the paedo's.

pops two penny worth, (yes we don't do the Euro, it's still pennies )

 

[notnorthern]

It seems to me that mentioning a character's age is on a par with mentioning their dick size in inches or bra size. Isn't it just a lazy way to try and pump some naughtiness into a story? Doesn't the way a character talks and acts and looks tell the reader enough about their age?

Uh, I like it when I see numbers and I use numbers in my stories. Maybe I just like numbers.

I don't consider it a way to pump naughtiness into a story. If I my character has a certain look, then I describe that look. Come on?

...and no, the way someone speaks does not necessarily reflect their age. My father is 93, when you speak to him on the phone or read his letter, he seems like a normal 60 year-old father of a 29 year old. When he's old as Methusala!

I am happy that novelists don't do this...

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Uh, I like it when I see numbers and I use numbers in my stories. Maybe I just like numbers.

I don't consider it a way to pump naughtiness into a story. If I my character has a certain look, then I describe that look. Come on?

...and no, the way someone speaks does not necessarily reflect their age. My father is 93, when you speak to him on the phone or read his letter, he seems like a normal 60 year-old father of a 29 year old. When he's old as Methusala!

I am happy that novelists don't do this...

Whatever works for you, but I think it's strange that we make such a big deal over whether a girl is 17 or 18, but don't care at all if she's 22 or 23 or 32.

What's so magical about 18, except that it's the legal cut-off age?

 

[The_Darkness]

What's so magical about 18, except that it's the legal cut-off age?

I think that's it.

 

[Lisa Denton]

So all reference to persons below 18 yrs is banned regardless of content around them... Unfortunately this does make writing semi fiction with factual content a nightmare, one cannot have kids born before they're 18 yrs old, that's damn difficult, and I'd think damn painful for the mother.

 

[pop_54]

I think a lot of folks are missing the point of the original thread starter's gripe here... He doesn't want to have young people having sex, he just wants to be able to make the statement that there are people under 18 in this world and tell a true'ish story.

If I wanted to write a fact based story including the truth of my first meeting with my darling wife, I wouldn't be allowed to post it here, because although I didn't begin a relationship or have sex with her until she'd turned legal, I actually first met her when she was 14 at a family party, just to say hello how are you like, nothing more... I was at the time knocking her older sister off who was legal may I add, but not legal for Lit purposes, Sheila was 17 at the time, one year past real world legal, but she couldn't be included in the factual story... Not only these two little snippets, but my cousin had just married a short while before, I wouldn't be able to write that into my story either, because even though she'd legally married her new husband, only he was over 18, she was still 17, and pregnant may I add, but quite legally so.

All of the above, and more, are reasons why real world factual stories, or fact based semi fiction, or even life like pure fiction, cannot be written for posting on this and most other sites... So we must all just forget about real life when writing our stories, and get on with the business of writing pure stroke porno for the sexually frustrated masses, most of whom know no different anyway, they just want Rod A, slotted into Slot B and jerked about for a few minutes, and they don't give a toss how old anyone is, or what they look like.

I'm not griping however, cos I rarely bother to mention age anyway, prefering 'teenage' or 'young woman' I mention 'the kids' sometimes in stories, but not an age attached, not just to steer clear of the rules, but I really can't be arsed to go into a lot of detail, I prefer to allow the stroker... umm sorry, reader, to visualise things and people as he/she sees fit... To be honest stories that contain swathes of narrative describing people and places, from the exact size to the millimetre of Everard's cock and the fact that he's twenty four and three months old this day, through the brand of hair dye Gloria used to get that blonde, stopping briefly to detail the fact that she's a 52ZZ bust and has a medium red silk bra and was 18 the day before, passing to the colour of the bed sheets and the material they are made of on the way to what the freekin weather is doing outside and what a beautiful sunset it was, bore me shitless, and I hit the back button... I like to have a picture painted of the scene and characters, but I don't want a full sized mural dwarfing the emotions and actions of the story.

And don't forget folks, Laurel does have the final say, it's her site, you all read the rules when you came here.

 

[notnorthern]

Whatever works for you, but I think it's strange that we make such a big deal over whether a girl is 17 or 18, but don't care at all if she's 22 or 23 or 32.

What's so magical about 18, except that it's the legal cut-off age?

I don't know! ...but that is not my original problem. (BTW, I am a woman, curvers and all).

My thing is Dr., was that this story is based on fact and I was 15 and 16 at the time. By the time that I was 18 I was in Utah being a good Mormon girl and having nothing to do with the catholic church (the story is about me getting it on with a preisthood candidate who was 25 and 26 at the time). I feel a bit ingenuine and it's going to affect a bunch of other autobiographical stories that I want to write for this site later. I've had worse challenges in life

But them be the rules, yo! ...I changed her age to 18 but it also makes my character look like she failed a grade! I was still in school when all of this was going on. I'm not so ruffled up as I was earlier.

I should not have mentioned ages but...it's too late now! I have thoroughly learned my lesson. I may do a non-erotic story about it just to keep things clear and on the record. Now I know to be elusive next time.

Thank you all for your input.