Terror freedom terror democracy? Or terror freedom stay the course?

Number of times Osama Bin Laden will be mentioned in Bush's speech tonight:

  • Zero times

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Less than zero times

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Once

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Osama who?

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • Total voters
    13

shereads

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My money is on "stay the course" as the most frequently used phrase in tonight's presidential speech and puppetry exhibition.

Second most-frequent: "It's hard."
 
shereads said:
My money is on "stay the course" as the most frequently used phrase in tonight's presidential speech and puppetry exhibition.

Second most-frequent: "It's hard."


I would be surprised, with all going on, or that has, if Osama is mentioned. Afterall, that was a CIA move visited through the father, and a bunch 'o fat cat skulls doing the Howdy Doody. :D (Oh you get that metaphor!)
 
CharleyH said:
I would be surprised, with all going on, or that has, if Osama is mentioned. Afterall, that was a CIA move visited through the father, and a bunch 'o fat cat skulls doing the Howdy Doody. :D (Oh you get that metaphor!)

I can't comment on that, Charley. As a U.S. citizen, I'm prohibited from using or responding to big words like "metaphor" on the day of a televised speech by President Bush. We're all pitching in to make him relatively smarter.
 
cloudy said:
My money's on "it's hard" for the catch phrase. ;)

He uses that one a lot when he's off script and trying to answer a question like, "How many more fuck-ups do you expect to make before you leave office, Mr. President?" or "Is it true you meant to invade Iran but got confused?"

:)

I'm not sure it's an approved phrase for his speechwriters, though. Let me know, okay? I can't watch that monkey dance tonight. I don't have any recreational drugs.
 
Another question:

Will he congratulate Ahmad Chalabi on being appointed Minister of Oil?

:)
 
shereads said:
He uses that one a lot when he's off script and trying to answer a question like, "How many more fuck-ups do you expect to make before you leave office, Mr. President?" or "Is it true you meant to invade Iran but got confused?"

:)

I'm not sure it's an approved phrase for his speechwriters, though. Let me know, okay? I can't watch that monkey dance tonight. I don't have any recreational drugs.

Not sure I'll watch it, either. The new Nicktoon "Martin Mystery" is way more entertaining, and much more intelligent. ;)
 
What choice do we have other than staying the course? We're ass deep in a mess that we started. If we bug out now things will be a lot worse than they were before we invaded.

If we bug out now we leave a country full "insurgents" from all over the world that want to spread their version of Islam. We would leave a shaky government that can't support or defend itself.

To bug out now would be the worse thing we could do. As shitty as things have gotten, we have no choice but to stay the course. The alternative is much worse.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
What choice do we have other than staying the course? We're ass deep in a mess that we started. If we bug out now things will be a lot worse than they were before we invaded.

If we bug out now we leave a country full "insurgents" from all over the world that want to spread their version of Islam. We would leave a shaky government that can't support or defend itself.

To bug out now would be the worse thing we could do. As shitty as things have gotten, we have no choice but to stay the course. The alternative is much worse.
Not, that would, in it's entireness, be the speech I'd want to hear from mr B. :D
 
shereads said:
I can't comment on that, Charley. As a U.S. citizen, I'm prohibited from using or responding to big words like "metaphor" on the day of a televised speech by President Bush. We're all pitching in to make him relatively smarter.

Can y'all spell SEX? It is simply enjoyable :D

OH FORGET IT! He has not got it since the last DUI.
 
Words we will hear: Free elections. Successful election. Democratic elections. Progress. Democracy. Liberty. Freedom. God.


Words we will not hear: Exit strategy. Total war expenditures to date. Occupation of a sovereign nation. Number of Iraqui dead. Number of Americans dead. Number of non-American, non-Iraqui military dead. Number injured. How long our Commander in Chief expects the war to last. Oil. Halliburton. Draft. Stop loss order.
 
shereads said:
My money is on "stay the course" as the most frequently used phrase in tonight's presidential speech and puppetry exhibition.

Second most-frequent: "It's hard."

I'll bet even money that the speech writers and or handlers put the word "insurgent" in the speech and our president says "insurgery."

Eddie The Handicapped uh Handicapper

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Edward Teach said:
I'll bet even money that the speech writers and or handlers put the word "insurgent" in the speech and our president says "insurgery."

Eddie The Handicapped uh Handicapper

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PMSL!!

I bet you're right.
 
I figure his speech writers do that on purpose. Then form a pool on which word he'll mispronounce.
 
cloudy said:
PMSL!!

I bet you're right.


I think I misunderestimated Sher. She was dead on:

"We will stay in the fight unil the fight is won." GWB 6-28-05

you don't reckon she writes those speeches do you?


Eddie The Awed

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Edward Teach said:
I think I misunderestimated Sher. She was dead on:

"We will stay in the fight unil the fight is won." GWB 6-28-05

you don't reckon she writes those speeches do you?

Eddie The Awed

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Has anyone ever seen Shereads and Karl Rove at the same time?

<ducking>
 
shereads said:
He uses that one a lot when he's off script and trying to answer a question like, "How many more fuck-ups do you expect to make before you leave office, Mr. President?" or "Is it true you meant to invade Iran but got confused?"

:)

I'm not sure it's an approved phrase for his speechwriters, though. Let me know, okay? I can't watch that monkey dance tonight. I don't have any recreational drugs.

You had it right, she. The speechwriters turned "hard work" into "difficult work" and "dangerous work"
 
rgraham666 said:
Karl Rove cannot be shereads.

Shereads has ethics.
Indeed--I agree.

Found on the web, the stats for tonights speech. :

References to "September 11?: 5

References to "weapons of mass destruction": 0

References to "freedom": 21

References to "exit strategy": 0

References to "Saddam Hussein": 2

References to "Osama Bin Laden": 2

References to "a mistake": 1 (setting a timetable for withdrawal)

References to "mission": 11

References to "mission accomplished": 0
 
No stats for how many times he said, "it's hard" or even "it's a hard job"?

Well, shit.
 
cloudy said:
No stats for how many times he said, "it's hard" or even "it's a hard job"?

Well, shit.

Rebuilding a country after three decades of tyranny is hard — and rebuilding while at war is even harder.

We know that when the work is hard, the proper response is not retreat, it is courage.

I thank you for your courage under fire and your service to our Nation. I thank our military families — the burden of war falls especially hard on you

The transcript is all over the web tonight. I went here
 
According to this expert I heard on the radio, the administration planned on having permanent bases in Iraq. That's been the plan from the start, and that's what keeps the insurgents going. That's what they're fighting against.

His argument is that we're not getting the whole story on Iraq. Mostly, we're not seeing the insurgency as the Iraqis see it, and the place to look isn't US news--our reporters can't go anywere outside the Green Zone unless they're accompanied by massive US force--but on Blogs written by Iraqis. Reading these blogs, it's apparent that they see the insurgency as a nationalist war against an occupying force, and unless and until the US gives a date for withdrawl of its forces, the violence will continue.

Supposedly construction is going on like crazy in the Green zone and at certain US bases around the country. Rather than showing signs that we're transferring power and getting ready to leave, we seem to be digging in for a good, long stay. The nationalists will never give up the fight unless we show signs of leaving, and they'll never accept what they see as a puppet government that takes its orders from Washington.

I haven't read any Iraqi blogs so I don't know about that part, but I've heard before that the US had planned from the start to have a permanent presence in Iraq, so that doesn't surprise me. I've also heard that when you get outside the Green zone, things are much worse than we're being told. One of the arguments against leaving is that there'll be a full-scale civil war, but according to this guy, that's already happening. We just don't hear about it.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
What choice do we have other than staying the course? We're ass deep in a mess that we started. If we bug out now things will be a lot worse than they were before we invaded.

If we bug out now we leave a country full "insurgents" from all over the world that want to spread their version of Islam. We would leave a shaky government that can't support or defend itself.

To bug out now would be the worse thing we could do. As shitty as things have gotten, we have no choice but to stay the course. The alternative is much worse.

Are you saying...invading Iraq wasn't the most brilliant response to an attack on the U.S. by rogue Saudis whose leader hides out in Afghanistan?

:eek:
 
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