Terrible Children's Stories...

[Seamus123]

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[KokopelliRises]

The fact that some parents will not discipline their children in public and just allow them to run free and scream their fool heads off without saying a word, much to my annoyance and that of any other sane adult in the room or complex. Not a specific example, but I have had this happen so many times that it just drives me up the wall. Don't get me wrong, I like children, in this case it is the parents I dislike.

 

[EJFan]

The fact that some parents will not discipline their children in public and just allow them to run free and scream their fool heads off without saying a word, much to my annoyance and that of any other sane adult in the room or complex. Not a specific example, but I have had this happen so many times that it just drives me up the wall. Don't get me wrong, I like children, in this case it is the parents I dislike.

i was in the supermarket saturday and actually saw a woman disciplining her two children (roughly 5 and 7 years old). she wasn't rude or physical about it. she just made it clear to them that they were behaving badly, using a stern tone and correcting their behavior. it was refreshing to see... and i realized that it was such a rare thing to see i actually took notice.

 

[wicked woman]

i was in the supermarket saturday and actually saw a woman disciplining her two children (roughly 5 and 7 years old). she wasn't rude or physical about it. she just made it clear to them that they were behaving badly, using a stern tone and correcting their behavior. it was refreshing to see... and i realized that it was such a rare thing to see i actually took notice.

Interesting...I remember getting shit from a stranger for disciplining my kids in public.

 

[Seamus123]

My dad's always having words with kids. Parents bring them in to his shop with them and they just let them run around amongst all the other customers, just being loud and rude. And most of the time, the parents either ignore them or just laugh because they think their children are so adorable. So my dad tells them to behave!

 

[M's girl]

I was in a cafe with some friends on Saturday when a family came in with a baby and a 4 year old. The parents were both drinking alcohol at midday with their children, which I think is bad enough, but even worse was the fact the the (ever so responsible) father was letting his very young son drink from his bottle of budweiser!

I'm certain that's just a horrific way to treat your child, on so many social, moral, physical and mental levels. We laughed at the time - an image of a small kid trying to down a bottle of beer, it seemed - but thinking about it now, it's pretty abhorent.

Well, you better never go to France then I suppose. Hey, I'm not saying children should drink alcohol, no way, but on the other hand it depends a bit on how it happens.

In France, for example, families regularly go out for family dinners for no special occasion other than having a meal together. And most French drink wine with their meals, also at lunch. Children from a certain age get to drink some wine that is watered down. It's quite common.

Although we don't make a habit out of it (we have M's children only a weekend every two weeks) we do go out for lunch with them sometimes, and sometimes M drinks a beer or we drink wine with our meal. The children are just curious about new tastes and so sometimes they want to take a sip. I find that to be quite natural. Of course they can't order a beer or wine for themselves and one sip, just to sample what we drink, is all they get (well, maybe a second if they say they like it ). Never more, and we also tell them they can't have it until they are waaaay older.

I truelly believe (not with M's boys ages yet, but a little later on) that when they want to taste the stuff, they will! Better be there and tell them about it than saying no way and them sampling (and more) the stuff behind your back!

 

[mjl2010]

I'd have to ask how much beer was the kid actually drinking. I mean, a whole bottle, then the guy should have his ass kicked. A few sips? No big deal.

What's wrong with having a beer at midday anyway. And oh my word in front of the children?

I just don't see where you're coming from. No, the guy shouldn't let his young son drink a whole bottle of beer. A few sips, so what? It won't hurt the kid. I didn't hurt me at that age. Hard to take the comment seriously when you go off on them having a drink in the middle of the day.

Sorry

MJL

 

[Ezzy]

Here in puritanical America you can join the military without needing your parents permission at 18 years old, you can go to war and kill or be killed, but you are still three years short of being able to legally drink.

You can get married but if you drink at the reception, you can be arrested. If your parents give you a drink 1 beer when you are still 20 years old they can be arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

That’s just the way the laws are written!

 

[ammre]

I remember sipping my father's hard alcohol when i was a wee kiddie. Drambouie, mmmm. I think that helped raise me responsibly. I've never even been drunk.

as for children... Boo. I'm not a child kind of person. Sometimes they are ok. Most of the time it's the parents that make them irritating.
I miss smoking sections. I HATE cigarettes, but most parents won't sit their kids in a smoking section, so it was also sort of the no-children section.

 

[Seamus123]

I think you're all right(ish..).. maybe I did go off on them a little hard. Perhaps i'm a bit more sensitive to drinking than other people: my ex best friend is in prison for a long time, and that wouldnt have happened it wasn't for his attitude to drinking, and I believe that was put in place at an early age.

I also think the drinking culture in the UK may be different to the US. I just don't think getting this kid off on that sort of path from that sort of age is the best way to go. Maybe let him have a few sips when you hit double figures, but at 4? I'm not so sure.

 

[Mazuri]

Perhaps...but think of it this way. He's had a sip already. He'll probably get to taste other things over the course of time. When he's a teen...where's the "mystery" of alcohol that makes it forbidden? He's been "drinking" since he was a kid and knows he either likes the taste or doesn't. There's really no point to going out and sneaking a drink out of a beer you've stolen because...well, he knows it tastes like horse piss already

While not promoting drinking (not by a long shot), I think a lot of alcohol problems in teens stems from the fact that it's so taboo. Remove the mystery and many times you remove the appeal.

 

[Seamus123]

Yeah, thinking about it, that's a pretty sensible approach. Still not sure that age is a sensible one to start, but there ya go.

Anything that warns kids off of drinking piss like beer or lager is a good method for me. Whisky all the way!

 

[JBCorbell]

Interesting...I remember getting shit from a stranger for disciplining my kids in public.

I can just guess what his kids are like.

I was raised in a home where we were allowed to taste various forms of alcohol and I'm certainly none the worse for it. There was no mystery and my parents were never drunk (to my knowledge). Teaching by example is the strongest form of education there is.

However, alcohol in public never happened.

 

[EveryColorOfFun]

Here in puritanical America you can join the military without needing your parents permission at 18 years old, you can go to war and kill or be killed, but you are still three years short of being able to legally drink.

You can get married but if you drink at the reception, you can be arrested. If your parents give you a drink 1 beer when you are still 20 years old they can be arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

That’s just the way the laws are written!

Judgeing from how I and my firends acted when we were 18 and how the vasr majority of 18 year olds act, there is no fucking way that the drinking age will ever be lowered to 18.

Oh, your argument that "since I can be drafted and forced to go off and fight and be killed in a foreign country, therefore I should be allowed to drink as much as i want" is retardedly stupid and completely and utterly without logic.

 

[DrHappy]

I'm not too bothered by parents letting small kids take a sip. I'm almost 100% sure that it's legal in my state for parents to let their own kids drink (not get drunk) under their supervision. My dad used to let me take a sip his beer when I was young (less than 6 years old). I used to always make faces about how bad it tasted, but it was always fun to taste it. My mom's wine or margaritas were the worse! Later on, I never thought that it was such a big deal when other kids were talking about drinking. I never felt compelled to get drunk as a teenager or in college. I do like beer, wine, and margaritas now.

I think that if the minimum drinking age was raised to 36, then there would be a lot of 36 year olds doing stupid things while drunk.

 

[Quoll]

Judgeing from how I and my firends acted when we were 18 and how the vasr majority of 18 year olds act, there is no fucking way that the drinking age will ever be lowered to 18.

Oh, your argument that "since I can be drafted and forced to go off and fight and be killed in a foreign country, therefore I should be allowed to drink as much as i want" is retardedly stupid and completely and utterly without logic.

I don't see where he said that, to me it was simply a statement of fact.

 

[Eilan]

I don't see where he said that, to me it was simply a statement of fact.

Another fine graduate of the Eilan School of Reading Comprehension.

 

[Quoll]

Another fine graduate of the Eilan School of Reading Comprehension.

Haha, that's exactly what I thought.

Did you see the beach picture I posted?

 

[EveryColorOfFun]

I don't see where he said that, to me it was simply a statement of fact.

It was implied, and you'd have to be a blind fool to miss it.

 

[Frank Noir]

I'd have to ask how much beer was the kid actually drinking. I mean, a whole bottle, then the guy should have his ass kicked. A few sips? No big deal.

My thoughts exactly.

But then again, I reside in the devil-may-care, alcoholic, sex-crazed region known as "Europe"...

 

[M's girl]

It was implied, and you'd have to be a blind fool to miss it.

It was not implied; YOU drew conclusions. Ez did not say people should be allowed to drink because of that. It was more like "it's weird you can (or have to) do all this other stuff including war and holding (shooting?) guns but when you want to drink a beer at your own wedding reception you can get arrested"...

But it's all culture I guess. Here in Europe we arrest people when they carry guns. Americans (can) arrest people when they drink a beer at 20.

 

[slutnextdoor]

I grew up Jewish, and since I was about 2, I sipped the wine on Friday with the rest of the family... I was allowed to finish the leftover wine when I was around 10 (it was like a teaspoon or two). Not to mention a father who made it so I knew what the diffirence between Champaigne and Sparkling wine is by 8...

I think it made me more responsible, and taught me that alcohol is for more than getting drunk. Still, I'm 1 1/2 months from 19, so I still can't legally drink... and normally don't. Go figure.

 

[Jagged]

I am not one of those parent type people.....So I would have to say giving your kids beer isn't a good thing. I know it isn't easy to be a good parent but there are plenty of ways to be a bad one.

 

[Honeybee80]

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[DrHappy]

Honeybee80, I just looked up the law under my state and found:

06.04 – Consumption of Alcohol by a Minor: (a–b) A minor commits an offense if they consume alcohol unless they are in the visible presence of, and have the consent of their adult parent, legal guardian, or spouse.

It looks like it is legal, but I'm sure that you are correct in that this could be used against a parent. I would imagine that it would be an especially bad idea with a child of bitterly divorced parents. Still, giving a child a sip of Chardonnay with dinner is a bit different that letting him get drunk.