Ted Nugent scores a bullseye!

[Lost Cause]

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"We've been told there are so-called moderate Muslims who deplore terrorism and that Islam has been hijacked by extremists.

If there are in fact moderate Muslims, they have been quiet as mosque mice regarding their views. For example, Americans don't know if moderate Muslims recognize Israel, what they think about women's rights, or if they believe the proposed New York City mosque should be moved to another location out of concern and sensitivity for the families of the victims of Sept. 11, 2001.

We also don't know if there are other freedom-loving and freedom-fighting Muslims who respect the rights of others to burn the Koran, draw cartoons of Muhammad in newspapers, hold marches to condemn Hamas and other terror organizations, write unflattering books about Islam, and vigorously support allowing people of other faiths to practice them in the city of Mecca, where all religions except Islam are currently outlawed.

If there are Muslims who hold these moderate beliefs, they are surely as rare as a Southern Baptist holding a Sunday morning church revival in Mecca.

Americans may not know much about Islam or its followers, but what we do know is that bloodthirsty terrorism is more often than not carried out by crazy-eyed, Muslim voodoo monsters screaming "God Is Great" while slaughtering innocent people. The Obama administration refuses to use the word "Islam" in describing these terrorists out of concern it will offend Muslims. I'm offended this is our nation's policy.

The Center for Security Policy assembled a "Team B" and just released a report that should give all of us, especially the Obama administration, reason to reverse course.

Composed of security experts from previous Republican and Democratic administrations, Team B urges the administration to reverse course on not referring to Muslim terrorists as "Islamist" out of fear of offending Muslims around the world.

The most bone-chilling finding by Team B is that America faces the threat of Islamic Shariah law slowing poisoning our legal system and ultimately destroying it. Shariah is the Islamic doctrine in which Allah rules over everything, including legal, political and military doctrine. Shariah is incompatible with a society of free and thinking people.

What the Obama administration and Muslims will not tell Americans is that the ultimate goal of Islam is to take over the world and replace representative, constitutional governments with Shariah. Under Shariah, freedom as we know it would be put to the Islamic sword.

Shariah should be banned in the United States and those Muslims and imams in America who advocate Shariah should be charged with sedition. Trying to overthrow our constitutional government through peaceful or violent means should never be tolerated.

Shariah will only be allowed to poison our legal system and culture if we allow it. We should stand steadfast against it, outlaw it and make it known throughout the world that America stands with freedom and that we will not allow it to be compromised out of fear of upsetting Muslims or a false belief that we can coexist with a religious revolution whose goal is to destroy America."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/sep/23/freedom-versus-shariah/

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

It's hard to be moderate when your leader is a terrorist who murdered the Jews who sheltered him when he was down and out...

 

[Bert Notorius]

rock and roll

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Herein lies the root of the problem for Islam.

Earnest Muslims, who wish to modernize their faith and truly make it a "religion of peace," must virtually erase their Prophet to do so.*

Mohamed is the model for Islamic terrorism, both in modern times and for the past fourteen centuries, wherever Islam has escaped the bottle of political restraint. Mohamed was never a prophet of peace; he was a warlord. Nor was he a dedicated monk, priest, or rabbi who eschewed the rewards of political power. Mohamed verily relished his every violent victory and enslaved those whom he defeated. Rape, pillage, and plunder followed in Mohamed's warring wake.*

Mohamed was the model for polygamy and child marriage, practicing both himself. Mohamed was the commander of the stoning and the lopping off of hands and feet, the master of the lashings and canings so prominent in every Muslim-dominated country today. It is utterly impossible for modern Muslims to clean up their religion without first erasing the example of their own prophet.

When 4th-century Christians decided to merge the church with the state, they were going against the Bible and every true tenet of orthodox Christianity. Nowhere in Jesus' life or teachings was there to be found any injunction to merge worldly power with true faith in God. Nowhere. Nada. Zilch. Jesus, we know, made a very big deal out of giving *worldly power (Caesar) its own domain while reserving one's soul for God alone. Jesus was so bent on peace that even when he was being arrested in the Garden of Gethsemane, he told his disciples to put away their swords. Jesus did not, during his own scourging, command his followers to mount an armed rebellion to try to free him. Instead, he went peacefully to the Cross of salvation.

So when Christians mounted opposition to the joining of church with tyrannical state power, they were standing upon firm religious footing. The Protestant reformers didn't need to kill off Jesus to support their desire for keeping matters of the soul separate from matters of political power. Instead, Christians needed only remind -- yes, quite forcefully remind -- their befouled church and state institutions that they were going against Jesus in their greedy pursuit of worldly goods and power. Standing upon the authority of the Bible itself and Jesus' own example gave Christian reformers what they needed.

Not so with Islamists. In order to reform a religion which is purely hell-bent on violence to obtain submission, the Islamists must figure out a way to explain that perhaps their prophet was either a bit off in the head or that his words and actions were intended for only a more brutal era. But this itself proves nearly impossible, too.

For in Islam, the Koran is presumed to be an actual dictation -- word-for-word -- of conversations between Mohammed and Allah, using the intermediary, "Gabriel," *the angel of wide Judeo-Christian prominence. Whereas both Jews and Christians believe that the Bible, both old and new testaments, were inspired by God, they do not believe that the Bible is anything nearly approximating a direct dictation from the mouth of God.

So Muslims who truly do want to come into the 21st century, remake their religion into one of peaceful cohabitation with earth's non-Muslim peoples, and practice a smidgen of the tolerance they have so violently demanded from others, find it an overwhelming task. It's hard to argue against terror when terror was your prophet's own M.O.

Perhaps, at the end of the day, someone, somewhere, possessing a few grains of common sense, will ask whether it just might be possible that the Allah, who purportedly spoke to Mohamed, was not at all the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, but some altogether different being with a decidedly anti-Judaic, anti-Christian code of ethics.*

Until then, it would take a complete dimwit not to notice that Islam is anything but a "religion of peace." And the sooner we wake up to this reality, the better chance we will have at saving civilization as we have known it.

Kyle-Anne Shiver

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/time_for_an_islamaphobia_beer.html

 

[MeeMie]

"We've been told there are so-called moderate Muslims who deplore terrorism and that Islam has been hijacked by extremists.

If there are in fact moderate Muslims, they have been quiet as mosque mice regarding their views.

Here's one of the so-called moderate Muslims who posts here on Lit:

Haha. I think you're the one whose dreaming there buddy...

http://radiopatriot.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/blackw20.jpg

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Remember those bastards? Yeah thats a few dead mercenaries who won't be killing people any time soon.

If the US tried to invade Iran every last grunt would get slaughtered. The US doesn't have the money or manpower to invade a modern country like Iran and is spread so thin that the military would probably collapse.

So you can keep your little wet dream of nuking an entire country but remember... YOU got your asses handed to you on more than one occasion. And will again.

Charred bodies, denegrating US military strength with a smilie, threats of future destruction are all moderate expressions for an American Muslim, right?














...

 

[kbate]

So Muslims who truly do want to come into the 21st century, remake their religion into one of peaceful cohabitation with earth's non-Muslim peoples, and practice a smidgen of the tolerance they have so violently demanded from others, find it an overwhelming task. It's hard to argue against terror when terror was your prophet's own M.O..

Tell me again how Christians converted the Native Americans, the Irish Pagans and most of England, and northern Europe. With peace and love?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Having been raised Christian, I know that the Jew books of the Bible promise a homeland and the son of Jew promises a home in heaven.





The Koran promises the faithful Earth.

 

[MeeMie]

Tell me again how Christians converted the Native Americans, the Irish Pagans and most of England, and northern Europe. With peace and love?

Ancient history, not at all representative of modern Christianity, shouldn't be used to compare modern day issues as an excuse for terrorism.

 

[Bert Notorius]

and virgins

don't forget the virgins

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Ancient history, not at all representative of modern Christianity, shouldn't be used to compare modern day issues as an excuse for terrorism.

Hey, mark my words, when the Christians finally get stirred enough to overcome the secularists and strike back at Islam, they'll lead with a pogrom...





There's a reason we put the Jews back in charge of their promised land.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Where is Turkey heading under Erdogan's ruling party, the AKP? The question becomes urgent following the approval of a constitutional referendum on 12 September with a majority of 58% in favor as opposed to 42% against.

In theory, the referendum is in many ways an advancement of liberal democratic rights in compliance with membership requirements of the European Union (EU). For instance, the revision of article ten upholds the principle of gender equality, whilst article twenty now ensures the protection of personal data and the right to privacy. It was for these reasons that the Enlargement Commissioner of the EU, Stefan Fule, praised the constitutional reforms as "a step in the right direction ... towards fully complying with the accession criteria." Meanwhile, the European Parliamentary deputy Richard Howitt affirmed that the referendum was a "sign of the population's support for reforms that will prepare the country for European Union membership."

However, in practice, the AKP is not only failing to implement the principles of liberal democracy as outlined in parts of the referendum, but it also appears to be reversing them. For example, though aforementioned article ten assures gender equality, the Turkish women's rights group IRIS points out that in 1994, 15.1% of women were in executive civil service positions, whereas under the AKP, the figure has declined and now stands at 11.8%. Indeed, no women serve amongst the nine main bureaucrats in the Turkish Justice Ministry, whilst in the high courts, whose judges have hitherto not been appointed by the government, there is a large number of female jurists.

Moreover, the percentage of women in the workforce has dropped from 34.1% in 1990 to 21.6% this year, something that cannot be explained solely by urbanization trends. This seems to fit in with Erdogan's philosophy that a woman's role is to stay at home and have at least three children.

Similarly, AKP rule has seen the increasing curtailment of freedom of expression and the right to privacy. With huge tax fines imposed on media outlets critical of the AKP such as Dogan and the imprisonment of journalists on allegations of coup plots, Turkey dropped twenty places in Reporters Without Borders' "Press Freedom Index" to 122nd out of 175 countries in 2009. In addition, the number of wiretapped phone calls, primarily against political opponents, has grown by around 50% annually since 2007 to a figure of 142,135 in 2009.

Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi
The American Thinker

You give them a choice and moderate goes out the window...

 

[richard_daily]

Tell me again how Christians converted the Native Americans, the Irish Pagans and most of England, and northern Europe. With peace and love?

But that was a long time ago... christians nowadays are a friendly and fun loving people... just ask all the children raped by priests.

 

[Powertone]

The Koran promises the faithful Earth.

they can have it

 

[richard_daily]

they can have it

So when are you giving it to them?

 

[KRCummings]

Why would any Muslim be ok with something that is against the core of their religion? He thinks they should be ok with portraying Muhammed? What a dumbass. No Muslims no matter how liberal allow that. He thinks they're supposed to allow more freedom in Mecca? Why? It's not in America and it's theirs. They don't have to allow anything. Nugent is a moron.

 

[Liar]

Ted Nugent scores a bullseye!

Not really. He scores a predictable garden variety derp.

 

[Liar]

Nugent says he don't know if moderate Muslims recognize Israel, support women's rights, respects the rights of others to burn the Koran, draw cartoons of Muhammad in newspapers, hold marches to condemn Hamas and so on.

That says more about Nugent than about Muslims. It says he assumes they don't because he hasn't bothered to find out. As if it's their responsibility to seek out and rid him of his prejudice, instead of his responsibility to ask and learn.

I have also not heard Christians voice their support for my right to rally in favor of abortion, piss on the cross, burn the Holy Bible or fuck other men in the ass.

Unlike Nugent, I assume they would support my right to do those things, but that they would not support that I did it.

 

[Wrong Element]

With such widely recognized genuises penning their op-eds, I can't imagine why the Washington Times is losing zillions of dollars.

I'm finding that concern over sharia coming to the United States is a good barometer of whether or not someone is out of his mind.

 

[y=mx+b]

Nugent says he don't know if moderate Muslims recognize Israel, support women's rights, respects the rights of others to burn the Koran, draw cartoons of Muhammad in newspapers, hold marches to condemn Hamas and so on.

That says more about Nugent than about Muslims. It says he assumes they don't because he hasn't bothered to find out. As if it's their responsibility to seek out and rid him of his prejudice, instead of his responsibility to ask and learn.

I have also not heard Christians voice their support for my right to rally in favor of abortion, piss on the cross, burn the Holy Bible or fuck other men in the ass.

Unlike Nugent, I assume they would support my right to do those things, but that they would not support that I did it.

This representative of modern Christianity is okay with burning the Bible... provided it's not the one he reads.

 

[Liar]

This representative of modern Christianity is okay with burning the Bible... provided it's not the one he reads.

That was a terrifyingly ugly web site.

 

[Bert Notorius]

....

I have also not heard Christians voice their support for my right to fuck other men in the ass.

As long as it's Killswitch, knock yourself out.

 

[Liar]

As long as it's Killswitch, knock yourself out.

I shall make a note.

 

[Bert Notorius]

I shall make a note.

Now you can cross that one off your list.

 

[Liar]

Now you can cross that one off your list.

Well, I'm banging my way through the GB in alphabetical order, and I haven't reached B yet.

 

[Bert Notorius]

Well, I'm banging my way through the GB in alphabetical order, and I haven't reached B yet.

I bet you keep a spreadsheet.