Tebow's Super Bowl message protected by the 1st Amendment?

[Lost Cause]

Will it be personal or Mob rule?

(I edited out the reporter's personal narration to keep it on message-Pm)

The Super Bowl match up getting almost as much attention as Colts v. Jets is the CBS-approved issue ad starring Tim Tebow, the quarterback from Florida who's headed for the spring NFL draft.

A spot with Tim and his mom, Pam, sharing her personal story exemplifying their opposition to abortion. She ignored doctors advice to abort a potential problem pregnancy and, resting on her faith, carried Tim to term.

According to Associated Press, Tim Tebow told reporters Sunday he was honoring his "courageous" mom and holds a religious conviction against abortion.

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...-tebow-pro-life-pro-choice-abortion-/1?csp=hf

Jehmu Greene, president of Women's Media Center, asked CBS on Monday not to air the commercial, saying, "An ad that uses sports to divide rather than to unite has no place in the biggest national sporting event of the year."

The Women's Media Center is coordinating the effort to have the ad pulled with support from the National Organization for Women and the Feminist Majority Foundation.

A CBS spokesman said it had approved the advertisement's script and it would be "appropriate for air." The network said today it would be willing to air more advocacy ads during the Super Bowl.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spo...ns-media-center-controversy-pam-abortion.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEUJY_ZoZcs

 

[JohnnySavage]

I heard he's a virgin.

 

[off2bed]

Anti abortion ads are the US equivalent of Mohammed cartoons.

 

[bronzeage]

Just imagine how many NFL quarterbacks have been lost to abortions, since Roe v. Wade.

 

[off2bed]

Just imagine how many NFL quarterbacks have been lost to abortions, since Roe v. Wade.

Not to mention, all the Democrat voters lost to abortions.

 

[bronzeage]

Not to mention, all the Democrat voters lost to abortions.

Whose loss would that be?

 

[off2bed]

Whose loss would that be?

We'll never know...

 

[hogjack]

Let Tim Tebow communicate. Has anyone ever heard this guy talk in a press conference? He speaks twitter. Editors will clean it up.

"Uh, like uh sure we like, you know, played well."

"The team did good. It was nice."

"I am like, ummmmm, blessed. LOL, yes."

 

[KRCummings]

I blame Mean Joe Greene. If he hadn't thrown that kid his jersey we wouldn't be having these problems.

 

[hogjack]

I blame Mean Joe Greene. If he hadn't thrown that kid his jersey we wouldn't be having these problems.

Mean Joe Greene threw a better spiral than Tim Tebow.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Why do all the dipshits get "1st Amendment" issues wrong?

 

[hogjack]

A spot with Tim and his mom, Pam

This is one really creepy family. I don't care either way about their worldviews and they can be used for whatever cause requires the publicity.

But they seem to be seriously creepy and really weird. No doubt they post on Lit.

 

[tinylittlegnat]

It may be protected speech but that doesnt mean the network has to agree to let it air.

I do wonder if it was muslim verses on the kids face during a game if he would be as accepted.

 

[pointless]

Why do all the dipshits get "1st Amendment" issues wrong?

because they're dipshits. duh.

 

[Karen Kraft]

Anti abortion ads are the US equivalent of Mohammed cartoons.

While I am 100% pro-choice, I don't object to people buying air time to present their pro-life message. I think we're all big enough to withstand the 30 or 60 seconds of hearing a point of view other than our own.

What I do object to is the effort to silence other people. Thus, your cartoon analogy is right on.

In some places, were they to bring a lawsuit, it would be called a STRATEGIC LAWSUIT AGAINST PUBLIC PARTICIPATION and would cost the person/organization filing it zillions -- plus attorneys fees.

Think about the efforts to silence opposition next time you vote for these so-called Pro-Choice candidates. The choice is limited to saying yes to abortion. Any other choice is forbidden.

The only reason I am pro-choice is because I don't think the State has any valid interest in my reproductive choices and can stay the fuck out of my life on any number of levels. That said, however, I do not quarrel with women who choose to abort, carry to term, keep the baby, put the baby up for adoption, change their minds, etc. Just as their decision is none of the State's business, it also is none of mine.

 

[John Doe]

While I am 100% pro-choice, I don't object to people buying air time to present their pro-life message. I think we're all big enough to withstand the 30 or 60 seconds of hearing a point of view other than our own.

What I do object to is the effort to silence other people. Thus, your cartoon analogy is right on.

In some places, were they to bring a lawsuit, it would be called a STRATEGIC LAWSUIT AGAINST PUBLIC PARTICIPATION and would cost the person/organization filing it zillions -- plus attorneys fees.

Think about the efforts to silence opposition next time you vote for these so-called Pro-Choice candidates. The choice is limited to saying yes to abortion. Any other choice is forbidden.

The only reason I am pro-choice is because I don't think the State has any valid interest in my reproductive choices and can stay the fuck out of my life on any number of levels. That said, however, I do not quarrel with women who choose to abort, carry to term, keep the baby, put the baby up for adoption, change their minds, etc. Just as their decision is none of the State's business, it also is none of mine.

So it's a SLAPP? That's great!

 

[Karen Kraft]

So it's a SLAPP? That's great!

Sure is!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_public_participation#History

 

[Recidiva]

I'm not offended by the opinion. I just think if the network is going to pass it along, they might have some level of disclaimer in the interview.

"Opinions expressed here are not...etc...etc...etc..."

"As in the case of any medical whatever...be sure to consult your doctor about people telling you not to consult your doctor...."

I'm big on personal responsibility. You're welcome to make choices. Telling other people what choices they should make, fine when they have no actual authority to do so. The network is liable for passing it along and I can see some dumbass in the future who decided to listen to an interview instead of their doctor, suing the network for "medical advice."

If plastic bags have to have little warnings saying not to suffocate yourself and coffee cups have to say "Caution, could burn!"

Then the network can just do the legal disclaimer thing somewhere in the beginning of the interview, just flash it on the screen, they're probably off the hook.

 

[Karen Kraft]

I'm not offended by the opinion. I just think if the network is going to pass it along, they might have some level of disclaimer in the interview.

"Opinions expressed here are not...etc...etc...etc..."

"As in the case of any medical whatever...be sure to consult your doctor about people telling you not to consult your doctor...."

I'm big on personal responsibility. You're welcome to make choices. Telling other people what choices they should make, fine when they have no actual authority to do so. The network is liable for passing it along and I can see some dumbass in the future who decided to listen to an interview instead of their doctor, suing the network for "medical advice."

If plastic bags have to have little warnings saying not to suffocate yourself and coffee cups have to say "Caution, could burn!"

Then the network can just do the legal disclaimer thing somewhere in the beginning of the interview, just flash it on the screen, they're probably off the hook.

It's a commercial. It's not a tv show.

It's Pam saying how happy she is that she carried the baby to term. Then she kisses him on the cheek.

Hardly requiring the typical American admonitions:

Carrying to term is not for everyone. People with chronic morning urination, fingernail biting, irresponsible leg disorder, chronic rounded heel syndrome, and munchie fibrocis, should contact their doctors before embarking on a non-abortive pregnancy. Ask your doctor if carrying to term is right for you. In some cases, carrying to term has led to disappointment, dissatisfaction, depression, anxiety, worry, shock, dismay, datmay, last may, billy mays, willy mays, and forgotten phone calls on mother's days.

 

[Recidiva]

It's a commercial. It's not a tv show.

It's Pam saying how happy she is that she carried the baby to term. Then she kisses him on the cheek.

Hardly requiring the typical American admonitions:

Carrying to term is not for everyone. People with chronic morning urination, fingernail biting, irresponsible leg disorder, chronic rounded heel syndrome, and munchie fibrocis, should contact their doctors before embarking on a non-abortive pregnancy. Ask your doctor if carrying to term is right for you. In some cases, carrying to term has led to disappointment, dissatisfaction, depression, anxiety, worry, shock, dismay, datmay, last may, billy mays, willy mays, and forgotten phone calls on mother's days.

Well, commercials that are recommending medical courses also have to have those disclaimers. Scarier ones, even.

"What the fuck is restless wallet syndrome?"

 

[Sonny Limatina]

It's not an advertisement, it's advocacy. If the spot featured Tebow explaining how to but a bullet into a chamber of a gun, point it at your head, and pull the trigger, the line would be more clear to everyone.

 

[Sonny Limatina]

Well, commercials that are recommending medical courses also have to have those disclaimers. Scarier ones, even.

"What the fuck is restless wallet syndrome?"

Yeah, it's known as "Fair balance," and it was the only way the drug companies could get the FDA to allow them to continue to advertise. It's a joke.

 

[Snip2]

To answer the question:

Yes.

Next question.

 

[Karen Kraft]

Well, commercials that are recommending medical courses also have to have those disclaimers. Scarier ones, even.

"What the fuck is restless wallet syndrome?"

Imagine a world in which carrying a baby to term is considered a bizarre and unusual medical procedure.

 

[Recidiva]

It's not an advertisement, it's advocacy. If the spot featured Tebow explaining how to but a bullet into a chamber of a gun, point it at your head, and pull the trigger, the line would be more clear to everyone.

It is advocacy, but it's advocacy with very little authority.

If you take medical advice from the mothers of football players, you probably have other, core issues that should be dealt with.