Teaching Hate

Cheyenne

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This thread goes with my thread from yesterday for those who are keeping up. I'm starting to think we Americans are just blind.

By Ken Adelman
02/27/2002
http://www.techcentralstation.com/1051/defensewrapper.jsp?PID=1051-350&CID=1051-
022702C


Can it be true? That Islamic schools in the United States teach hatred towards American Christians and Jews?

The Washington Post on Monday revealed that one such school outside Washington D.C. uses textbooks teaching 11th graders that "the Day of Judgment can't come until Jesus Christ returns to Earth, breaks the cross and converts everyone to Islam, and until
Muslims start attacking Jews."

Other accredited Islamic schools in America have world maps on classroom walls that exclude Israel. Some such schools promote class discussions that portray Usama bin Laden as "simply the victim of "prejudice" against all Muslims in America.

These astonishing facts were broken by Post reporters Valerie Strauss and Emily Wax in their front-page piece, too tepidly entitled, "Where Two Worlds Collide: Muslim Schools Face Tension of Islamic, U.S. Views."

But their reporting was anything but tepid.

Americans generally assume Islamic hate teaching resided "out there" - in Cairo or Riyadh. And yet it's right here -- in the elite Islamic Saudi Academy just outside Washington, D.C. "At stake," the two ace reporters say, "is how the next generation of Muslims
coming of age in the United States will participate in the country they live in."

As with all educational institutions, the stakes are high. But the prospects here are low.

I don't know precisely what new immigrant schools taught when waves of Catholics or Jews first flocked to America. But I suspect they adopted and spread the basic American values -- tolerance, freedom, and patriotism.

Surely not the hatred propagated in many Islamic studies classes. At the Al-Qalam All-Girls School in Springfield, Virginia, 7th graders learn that Usama bin Laden may be not a villain but a victim of American bias views towards great Islamic leaders.
Hence "some students question the government's claim that bin Laden is responsible for the terrorist attacks -- disputing that videotapes actually show him taking credit."

The Post reporters questioned "Fawzy, a 19-year-old who will graduate from George Mason University in 2003, [who]? wonders whether the United States just needed someone to blame and picked a Muslim. 'A lot of the students can't make up their minds if [Usama] is a good guy or a bad guy,' Fawzy said. 'The thing
is, we don't have any real proof either way. I think a lot of people feel this way.'"

Classrooms of the Washington Islamic Academy, which teaches kindergarten through 4th grade, feature world maps without Israel. "Upstairs in Al-Qalam girls school, the word is blackened out with marker, with 'Palestine' written in its place."

When the reporters asked about this, Academy Officials "defended the maps, pointing out that some of the students are refugees from Palestine and want their heritage represented."

These school officials attempt to delegitimize Israel. I would delegitimize them -- removing them from any role in shaping the beliefs and instilling knowledge in young Americans.

With the massive immigration of Muslims over recent decades - primarily because of the wretchedness of most native Islamic states - these parochial schools are increasing. Throughout America now are 200 to 600 Islamic day schools, teaching at least 30,000 full-time students and thousands more on weekends. The Washington Islamic Academy, outside the nation's
capital, teaches some 1,300 kids, including children of Arabic-speaking diplomats.

It may rank among the worst of these academies, as it is funded by Saudi money. Its high school textbook, in the reporters' words, "says one sign of the Day of Judgment will be that Muslims will fight and kill Jews, who will hide behind trees that say: 'Oh Muslim, Oh servant of God, here is a Jew hiding behind me. Come here and kill him.'"

According to Strauss and Wax, "Several students of different ages, all of whom asked not to be identified, said that in Islamic studies, they are taught that it is better to shun and even to dislike Christians, Jews and Shiite Muslims.

"Some teachers 'focus more on hatred,' said one teenager. 'They teach students that whatever is kuffar [non-Muslim], it is okay for you' to hurt or steal from that person."

What can be done about this outrage?

First, reveal it, for which Valerie Strauss and Emily Wax and the Washington Post deserve a Pulitzer Prize. Other reporters and top media outlets should follow in their steps.

Second, stop the accreditation of these hate schools. This, too, the reporters investigated when contacting an official at an accrediting agency of the Islamic Academy. His response was typical bureaucratese: the Secondary and Middle School Commission of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools "does not delve into curriculum extensively but "would be
'concerned' about such material being taught."

Well, he can stop being "concerned" and start de-accrediting the place.

Third, stop the Saudi funding. After September 11th, we were shocked to realize that "our friends, the Saudis" gave us Usama bin Laden, 15 of the 19 terrorists of 9/11, and more than 100 of the 150+ terrorist leaders now confined in Guantanamo Bay
cells. They also fund the Islamic schools spreading hate around the world towards Christians, Jews, America, freedom, and our sacred values.

Now we learn that Islamic hatred is being spread here at home, molding young American minds in what is shaping up as a real fourth column.
 
Yow!!

Seriously disturbing.

BTW, what is a thread like this doing on a porn site? ;)
 
Well, well, well....

I'll contribute.

First of all, allow me to say that I have made my sacrifice in the "War on Terrorism."

In August I was given an associate teacher to take over a class I HATED teaching and was going to quit if I had to teach it again. Great guy! Couldn't have had better.

He was in the Air Force Reserves, got called up in November. They replaced him with a dude who is the walking definition of square, 1st Baptist Church and all of that. Not only that, he doesn't know shit about teaching. Guess who is picking up the extra load in service to our country and country's most valuable asset- it's young people?

But that is besides the point. The other day I heard him tell his students to get ready to kill Muslims. I was so disgusted I didn't hang around for the context. I just fucking left.

I am not saying that hate is not taught by Muslims. I'm just saying that it is taught by Christians too.
 
Re: Well, well, well....

riff said:

But that is besides the point. The other day I heard him tell his students to get ready to kill Muslims. I was so disgusted I didn't hang around for the context. I just fucking left.

I am not saying that hate is not taught by Muslims. I'm just saying that it is taught by Christians too.

:eek: It isn't right for anyone to teach hate!

I won't judge you for being disgusted and leaving, but didn't you miss an opportunity to correct that very bad info for the students?
 
Re: Well, well, well....

riff said:
I'll contribute.
...They replaced him with a dude who is the walking definition of square, 1st Baptist Church and all of that. Not only that, he doesn't know shit about teaching. Guess who is picking up the extra load in service to our country and country's most valuable asset- it's young people?

But that is besides the point. The other day I heard him tell his students to get ready to kill Muslims. I was so disgusted I didn't hang around for the context. I just fucking left.

I am not saying that hate is not taught by Muslims. I'm just saying that it is taught by Christians too.

Indeed. While most of us are pro-Israeli - in the sense that Israel IS a Democracy - a great many of us (including your most eminent General Powell) are more than a bit fed-up with Sharon and his band of neo-Nazis... I stand by this description - and it is NOT racist. Criticism of ONE side of Israeli politics is not, "anti-Semitic", in, and of, itself. IMHO, If Labour were in power, the peace process would be much farther along.

All EXTREME forms of religion and politics support hatred. FULL STOP.

A case in point. Our Foreign Affairs minister was speaking to the Canadian Jewish Congress last week - and got himself into VERY hot water by even suggesting that Israel was exacerbating the strife by some of its heavy-handed actions. Of course, our Northern Buffoon, Chrétien - chose not to support his minister. Smacks a bit of Dubbya and his treatment of Colin Powell, No?
 
Re: Re: Well, well, well....

Cheyenne said:


:eek: It isn't right for anyone to teach hate!

I won't judge you for being disgusted and leaving, but didn't you miss an opportunity to correct that very bad info for the students?

Yes, I did miss an opportunity. But it was not the time or the place for that (i would never castigate an associate- no matter how big of an idiot- in front of his students).

And to be honest- I don't think there is anything I could say to him that would make him see the error of his remark. I could be wrong.... but I am not the savior of the world.

I just pick my own battles.
 
Teaching *hate*in America is nothing new. After the attacks on Sept. 11 as well as other attacks that did not have an impact as strong, as the twin towers collapsing, America finally wakes up? Hate crimes and racial profiling has been a part of America for a long time. There is more and I can be slighlty skewed, but maybe I need to look at my past notes and contact a friend in foreign affairs.

Now where is that "chink" hater Tortoise and his callous poem about Chinese coming to only the knees? Ha!
 
*bump*

I'm outa here for a bit, but thought I'd bump this for the weekday shift.
 
Been going on for a few thousand years folks.

We read about Saladin, Richard the III, they are just names in a book. Made up names we feel, not real people. Cartoon and movie dudes.

Someday, Bin Laden, Bush, will be names in a book.

So many of my kids whine "Why do we have to learn history!"

Duh?

I admit my inadequacy when I can not give the number of this cursade, is it the fourth or fifth, or even the sixth, there were so many small ones? How long before the Church butts in? There is only one Church I am talking about. You know which one.
 
Hate and love are very, very closely linked.
It seems fairly evident that the teacher was preaching and selling his own position.
It's usually much more effective to market soemthing you don't really believe in. Unless the kids were receptive because they too already felt anti-USA, for whatever reason, I expect your teacher was unconvincing.

The best way to sell what you believe in is to live it. So what impression did the teacher give - as a Muslim?
 
Ahhh ... Pandora, when you opened that box .... could you have shut it quickly before hate escaped ? I have no answers. Only a growing sadness everytime I see another injustice done in the name of hate. :(
 
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