Teacher's I have a question

[Guest]

I know we have several teachers on our board and I would like their opinion on a grading policy and anyone else's for that matter.

If a student has a paper due on a Monday but does not turn it in on Monday and on Tuesday the student works on it in class, you took them out of PE and made them work on it.

They turn it in during class on Tuesday, do you see anyway possible this could be counted as two days late? She is taking off 10 points for each "day" the paper is late.

The teacher says that it was due on Monday, it was not turned in Tuesday before 8:00AM(school starts at 7:50) so that counts as Day 1, since it was worked on at school on Tuesday that counts as a second day.

That would mean a child turning the work in after 8:00AM on Wednesday would be four days late according to this teachers logic.

Does this make sense? I do not think this is fair and not just because it is my child we are talking about.

 

[DarkAngel]

hey if it is late tooooo bad....

I was late on a paper I was writing for Univ. adn I lost 15%... and I was 1 day late...

If your kid gets the work done on time them good if it don't well pay the price... it will teach your kid better for univ... where they are not so easy.

 

[Angelique]

Ok, lemme get this straight. Paper was due on Monday morning by 8:00...student turned in the paper on Tuesday after 8:00 and you're wondering if the student should be penalized so harshly. Got it!

First of all, I wonder how old this child is...3rd grade or high school? I'm curious like that.

Secondly, let's take this situation and twist it a little in order to create a parallel to real life situations. Suppose a person was due to begin work on Monday at 8:00...but they didn't show up until Tuesday, after 8:00. Do ya' really think the boss is gonna go easy on 'em? I think not.

Another parallel, if I may...suppose an person was to give a presentation to a group of people on Monday at 8:00 but they weren't prepared or didn't have their presentation ready. Would it be fair to ask all those people attending the meeting to "hold on" while they completed their speech? I mention this as a parallel to the fact that the teacher allowed the student to miss PE in order to do work that should've been done on his/her own time.

I may not be a teacher, however I took the title when I became a parent (along with many other "titles"). Personally, I think your child is lucky the teacher even accepted his/her paper. Barring illness that prevented the child from completing the work on time, I don't think I would've allowed the student the extra day. If the other children in the classroom had the same amount of time to complete their work, and managed to do it, seems to me that your child should've been able to do so, too.

In all, it's my opinion that what the teacher did was more than fair. Showing a child that there are ramifications for their actions, both positive and negative, is a GOOD thing. What I see here is a teacher trying to show a child what responsibility is.

Again, this is just my opinion.

 

[Guest]

No the paper was due by the end of the day on Monday.

It is fifth grade.

I just received the opinion that matters, the principal called me back. It seems the teacher has been spoken with about this grading policy before.

She said "We do not grade by the clock" If it was due on Monday and turned in anytime on Tuesday it is 1 day late, the teacher cannot put a cut off time in the day to make it count as two days.

 

[CreamyLady]

Oh, life is so not fair. I didn't do a paper on the weekend so that it would be turned in on time on Monday, and then I got my mommy and daddy to complain when the teacher dinged me two days, and they got all upset about that because it was really only ONE day late, and the principal backed them up.

God, I wouldn't teach for the world. Parents would make me a lunatic in no time at all.

In all of that calculating, did it occur to you to find out why the kid was late with the paper? What was he or she doing that took precedence over a deadline? If the teacher hadn't intervened and pulled the kid out of PE in order to complete the paper, would it have been turned in at all?

The message the kid got was loud and clear: I don't have to do anything on time, I can't be held to a higher standard than the rest of the school, and Mommy and Daddy will fix everything.

Good going.

 

[Wizard]

Angelique......Mr Pruple and I were reading this thread and my head started to hurt.............this like who is on first what on second..........3rd base........

I have heard that before

 

[Havocman]

LMAO...hit it once for me Wiz...LOL

Havoc the Envious

 

[carini]

Was there a good reason why the paper was late? Was she sick on the weekend?

 

[Guest]

Was there a good reason why the paper was late? Was she sick on the weekend?

Not sick but out of town and the assignment was forgotten.


I should mention and forgot to earlier that the reason this has pissed me off so bad is I have worked in the school and this is a teacher that needs constant reminders to send her daily attendance and lunch count and not two weeks ago we had a parent/student/teacher conference (planned 5 days in advance) that she showed up for 10 minutes late and said I do not have his grades with me, they are on my computer and it is not on yet.

When they see this from their teacher on a daily basis how responsible do you feel they think they have to be?

 

[cheekyminx]

Being a year 5 teacher myself here in Australia. Homework here starts from prep (age 5) and continues. By around year 3 not only do they have homework but also assignments.
In my Grade the children all know what is expected of them. Each day I reserve 15 mins at the end of the day to talk about homework problems and assignment problems. The children then can tell me if they are falling behind or having trouble finding out information. Then the kids and I can renegotiate the due date.
Since I have been doing this I have found that kids dont forget their assignments because they are doing something on the weekend before its due as I give them around 14 days to get it done.
The excuse of 'sorry I was busy on the weekend' doesnt wash with me, and I usually give them a deduction in marks if they havent talked to me about problems or time constraints.

 

[Ambrosious]

No the paper was due by the end of the day on Monday.

It is fifth grade.

I just received the opinion that matters, the principal called me back. It seems the teacher has been spoken with about this grading policy before.

She said "We do not grade by the clock" If it was due on Monday and turned in anytime on Tuesday it is 1 day late, the teacher cannot put a cut off time in the day to make it count as two days.

How sad. It should have been refused altogether. But that might hurt that little precious angel's feelings.

 

[Closet Desire]

Late papers...

...seems a bit rigid for elementary school...well...even a bit rigid for university.

Late papers are a fact of life in academia so a go-no go policy is something I've very rarely seen. More common is a deduction of 5% each calendar day...meaning if it's due on Monday and turned in on Tuesday before close of business then it's one day late. It's reasonable and seems to work pretty well.

What a child learns from a policy that does not ever accept late papers is that it's not worth bothering with in the first place. It's sort of like getting ten days in jail for an expired parking meter.

Final exams are a different story. No retakes unless there is a good excuse...like a letter from your mortician.

 

[Ambrosious]

So, I would teach my children that it ain't worth even trying to get the paper in on time by having a now or never policy??

I wish real life worked that way, can you talk to my boss for me. It isn't worth it for me to show up on time any more.

 

[Cheyenne]

So, I would teach my children that it ain't worth even trying to get the paper in on time by having a now or never policy??

I wish real life worked that way, can you talk to my boss for me. It isn't worth it for me to show up on time any more.

But what about teaching them to actually work when they are AT work? Sorry, but I still can't figure out how you spend hours here every day while you are getting paid to work. Not a personal attack, more like curiosity. How is spending time here at Lit any different than coming in late?

 

[Ambrosious]

Cheyenne!

Good one! Zing!

No seriously, I work as an account manager for a security company. We provide security for the rich and famous here in Atlanta. 99 percent of this job is waiting for something to happen. The other 1 percent is pretty cool though. Pretty fast paced stuff.

So for 99 percent of the time, it's either here, or watching Judge Judy. I choose this.

 

[Cheyenne]

If that was my choice, I'd choose here, too! But I still have a hard time believing you get paid to sit there and do nothing 99% of the time. I can see how that would be boring, but isn't there something else your boss would expect you to be doing?

 

[Ambrosious]

I could be standing here and waiting, I suppose. My account is relatively small, with light traffic, and almost no securty risks. Even my immediate supervisor approves of me being on the internet, and was instrumental in me getting it.

However, I am due for another promotion into an account that might take me longer that 10 minutes to do weekly paperwork. That would be cool, I feel so...underutilized.

 

[Cheyenne]

However, I am due for another promotion into an account that might take me longer that 10 minutes to do weekly paperwork. That would be cool, I feel so...underutilized.

Now that I believe! I'd like to work fewer hours myself, but I wouldn't trade for a job where I had to find things to keep myself busy. I'd be in the funny farm inside a week.

 

[Merelan]

Cheyenne, this is a funny farm, or hadn't you noticed?

 

[Ambrosious]

Funny Farm-Literotica, you say tom-ay-toes, I say tom-ah-toes.

 

[Cheyenne]

Cheyenne, this is a funny farm, or hadn't you noticed?

I have noticed, but I didn't want to point it out rile up the inmates.

 

[Merelan]

Why not? It does them good. Gets the heart racing and the blood flowing. My god, some of them might even have to think about it before they post.
No, that's asking too much isn't it? Maybe I should stick to reading the stories and being quiet.

 

[Ambrosious]

We have stories?

 

[Cheyenne]

Why not? It does them good. Gets the heart racing and the blood flowing. My god, some of them might even have to think about it before they post.

But then I get accused of being "obsessed." I'm trying to be good. (I'd put an angel gif there if I had any clue how.)

 

[Merelan]

I cannot help you with that, I can't even post those cute smiles. Rosebud even tried to help me, a lost cause.
Obsessed? Oh, you mean a thinker, an intelligent woman who likes to use her talents and gifts for more then just wild sex? Oh. I heard that about you.