Tariffs, aka taxes, in action - auto edition

[MasterAnimus]

Ordered a few parts from Japan the other day. FedEx delivered promptly, along with a bill for customs fee (going to the US govt) totaling 25% of the cost of the parts.

The price of the item didn't change - just that I now pay 25% of the item cost to the US government. How is this not an additional tax?

When we've had bad economy in the past, people would not buy as many new cars and maintain the cars they already have. With most auto parts made outside of the US, even maintaining a used car will get more expensive. With millions of parts made elsewhere, shifting manufacturing to the US is almost impossible, at least in the next decade.

Whichever side of the aisle you are on, hard to see why this won't hit pocketbooks of a common person. Curious if anyone supporting tariffs have changed their minds.

 

[HisArpy]

Ordered a few parts from Japan the other day. FedEx delivered promptly, along with a bill for customs fee (going to the US govt) totaling 25% of the cost of the parts.

The price of the item didn't change - just that I now pay 25% of the item cost to the US government. How is this not an additional tax?

When we've had bad economy in the past, people would not buy as many new cars and maintain the cars they already have. With most auto parts made outside of the US, even maintaining a used car will get more expensive. With millions of parts made elsewhere, shifting manufacturing to the US is almost impossible, at least in the next decade.

Whichever side of the aisle you are on, hard to see why this won't hit pocketbooks of a common person. Curious if anyone supporting tariffs have changed their minds.

In your world, is shipping also a "tax?"

 

[MasterAnimus]

In your world, is shipping also a "tax?"

I am not paying shipping to the US government.

 

[HisArpy]

I am not paying shipping to the US government.

In a way you are. The shipping company pays corporate taxes. The money to pay those taxes are a calculated part of the fees you pay the shipping company.

Basically, tariffs are an increased cost of shipping from certain countries. If you don't want to pay the increased shipping cost, buy American. Can't buy American? Sucks to be you.

 

[MasterAnimus]

In a way you are. The shipping company pays corporate taxes. The money to pay those taxes are a calculated part of the fees you pay the shipping company.

Basically, tariffs are an increased cost of shipping from certain countries. If you don't want to pay the increased shipping cost, buy American. Can't buy American? Sucks to be you.

What part of "customs fee going to the US government" don't you understand?

 

[MasterAnimus]

What part of "customs fee going to the US government" don't you understand?

Can't read? Sucks to be you as well.

 

[dmallord]

In your world, is shipping also a "tax?"

Short answer is no.

A long answer has some context for your loaded question. Because tariffs are taxes — just a specific kind.

"A tariff is essentially an import tax on goods coming into the country. It’s assessed by U.S. Customs, collected from the importer, and then deposited into the U.S. Treasury. That’s why the money ends up in the same place as income taxes, corporate taxes, and other federal revenues.

"Shipping charges, in contrast, are a private fee paid to the carrier (FedEx, UPS, USPS, etc.) to move the goods — no government tax involved there."

As a legal beagle, you should already know this. I hope you aren't engaged for tax purposes by your clients.

 

[HisArpy]

Can't read? Sucks to be you as well.

Dam skippy, quoting yourself and then adding a personal insult on top of it, while thinking you've come out ahead in the argument, has gotta be a new low point for you.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Don't want to pay consumer taxes? Don't consume.

 

[Biglibido99]

Don't want to pay consumer taxes? Don't consume.

Hope that works out for you, you poor fool

 

[JohnEngelman]

Ordered a few parts from Japan the other day. FedEx delivered promptly, along with a bill for customs fee (going to the US govt) totaling 25% of the cost of the parts.

The price of the item didn't change - just that I now pay 25% of the item cost to the US government. How is this not an additional tax?

When we've had bad economy in the past, people would not buy as many new cars and maintain the cars they already have. With most auto parts made outside of the US, even maintaining a used car will get more expensive. With millions of parts made elsewhere, shifting manufacturing to the US is almost impossible, at least in the next decade.

Whichever side of the aisle you are on, hard to see why this won't hit pocketbooks of a common person. Curious if anyone supporting tariffs have changed their minds.

What matters is that you needed to pay more to get your parts because of Donald Trump.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Yup!
We will all avoid inflation by just not consuming!!!
Whatever you call the new ADDED fee that pays for NO NEW SERVICE, it’s inflation

 

[Saint_Ann]

Hope that works out for you, you poor fool

Death and taxes, my friend, death and taxes.

 

[Biglibido99]

Well Drump has only given the MAGATs one so far but death is coming soon to those being kicked off medicaid & snap & whatever else

 

[RobDownSouth]

In a way you are. The shipping company pays corporate taxes. The money to pay those taxes are a calculated part of the fees you pay the shipping company.

Basically, tariffs are an increased cost of shipping from certain countries. If you don't want to pay the increased shipping cost, buy American. Can't buy American? Sucks to be you.

Foreign-flagged ships (roughly 98% of the global shipping trade, pay no US corporate taxes. Period.

They DO pay "port fees" which works out to about 2% of the cost of shipping.

Go be stupid someplace else.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Well Drump has only given the MAGATs one so far but death is coming soon to those being kicked off medicaid & snap & whatever else

You and your empathetic liberal brethern are welcome to pitch in and prevent that from happening.

 

[ll74]

You and your empathetic liberal brethern are welcome to pitch in and prevent that from happening.

Everyone always chips in. That is why medical costs will increase.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Everyone always chips in. That is why medical costs will increase.

If it really bothers him, he can do more. That was the point. Do you suppose he'll open up his checkbook?

 

[ll74]

If it really bothers him, he can do more. That was the point. Do you suppose he'll open up his checkbook?

If he ends up getting medical care, he will.