Taliban to Women: Shut up, Cover up, get Indoors & D-bag Progressives Don't Care

[score_keeper]

AOC, Cori Bush, Ayanna Pressley, Bernie Sanders silent on plight of Afghan women

And, if D-bag Progressives don't care, you know Literotica D-bags don't care.

Progressives in Congress who are otherwise outspoken on women's rights have remained noticeably quiet on the plight of Afghan women ever since the Taliban completed its takeover of the country more than two weeks ago.

I guess there's no money in it, or press.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

^^^ Still triggered.

 

[ll74]

AOC, Cori Bush, Ayanna Pressley, Bernie Sanders silent on plight of Afghan women

And, if D-bag Progressives don't care, you know Literotica D-bags don't care.

Progressives in Congress who are otherwise outspoken on women's rights have remained noticeably quiet on the plight of Afghan women ever since the Taliban completed its takeover of the country more than two weeks ago.

I guess there's no money in it, or press.

I'd prefer that theocracy not exist in any form, but some people can't separate religion from government.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

I'd prefer that theocracy not exist in any form, but some people can't separate religion from government.

There's no such thing in Islam, that's why.

 

[ll74]

There's no such thing in Islam, that's why.

There are a large number of Muslims who do not want a theocracy. Your misunderstanding of a religion is irrelevant to reality.

Though every form of theocracy or part-form of theocracy is shit, no matter what religion takes the helm.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

There are a large number of Muslims who do not want a theocracy. Your misunderstanding of a religion is irrelevant to reality.

Though every form of theocracy or part-form of theocracy is shit, no matter what religion takes the helm.

There may we be lots of Muslims who don't want a theocracy. That doesn't mean Islam sees no distinction between religion and government. In Islam, there is no distinction.

 

[ll74]

There may we be lots of Muslims who don't want a theocracy. That doesn't mean Islam sees no distinction between religion and government. In Islam, there is no distinction.

Religions require interpretation. There is no singular interpretation of any religion.

Your misunderstanding of the religion is irrelevant to reality.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Religions require interpretation. There is no singular interpretation of any religion.

Your misunderstanding of the religion is irrelevant to reality.

It's quite explicit: Everything is in the book: Art, morality, government, law...Islam isn't Episcopalianism with scimitars, genius. Is there something called "Islam?" Or is it all "interpretation" to you?

 

[ll74]

It's quite explicit: Everything is in the book: Art, morality, government, law...Islam isn't Episcopalianism with scimitars, genius. Is there something called "Islam?" Or is it all "interpretation" to you?

Yes, and any person can omit any part of the book they want or add their own. Beliefs aren't a strict thing....that's why multiple sects exist for every single religion.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Yes, and any person can omit any part of the book they want or add their own. Beliefs aren't a strict thing....that's why multiple sects exist for every single religion.

So what part of the Koran and hadith am I omitting? Where is the Islamic equivalent of "render unto Caesar?"

 

[ll74]

So what part of the Koran and hadith am I omitting? Where is the Islamic equivalent of "render unto Caesar?"

Are you just that stupid? Sects of Christianity leave out the entire old testament while others do not.

You're the one who seems to be dictating that the entire book must be followed without question.

I'm just explaining that there are Muslims that do not believe in theocracy that are still Muslims.Obviously that.means that parts of the koran are left out in their interpretation.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Are you just that stupid? Sects of Christianity leave out the entire old testament while others do not.

You're the one who seems to be dictating that the entire book must be followed without question.

I'm just explaining that there are Muslims that do not believe in theocracy that are still Muslims.

And I'm saying that Islam itself says there is no distinction. At all. Different Muslims might apply different parts of the religion, but the religion itself is quite clear. Unless you can show me where there is such a separation, you being so smart and clever and all.

Or maybe you can't and you're just being dishonest and argumentative (again).

 

[ll74]

And I'm saying that Islam itself says there is no distinction. At all. Different Muslims might apply different parts of the religion, but the religion itself is quite clear. Unless you can show me where there is such a separation, you being so smart and clever and all.

Or maybe you can't and you're just being dishonest and argumentative (again).

Religion is not a fixed thing. It is an interpretation of religious texts. There is no singular Islam just as there is no singular Christianity and no singular Buddhism.

Religion is a belief not an instruction set.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Religion is not a fixed thing. It is an interpretation of religious texts. There is no singular Islam just as there is no singular Christianity and no singular Buddhism.

Religion is a belief not an instruction set.

Yep, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about (again).

 

[ll74]

Yep, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about (again).

That's not correct. Religions are what the believers make them. The only thing major religions seem to direct are who their main prophet is and who their god is.

Everything else is up to each sect to define.

Else Christians would still be stoning people for wearing unnatural materials

 

[Bud_Spencer]

That's not correct. Religions are what the believers make them. The only thing major religions seem to direct are who their main prophet is and who their god is.

Everything else is up to each sect to define.

Else Christians would still be stoning people for wearing unnatural materials

Now you're really letting your ignorance shine. Let it all out, Weirdbeard!

 

[ll74]

Now you're really letting your ignorance shine. Let it all out, Weirdbeard!

You are the ignorant one. Religion is not a fixed thing...never has been and never will be.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

You are the ignorant one. Religion is not a fixed thing...never has been and never will be.

So how does one determine if what one defines as religiously proper is, indeed, consistent with the religion?

Can Jews eat pork? Why or why not?

 

[ll74]

So how does one determine if what one defines as religiously proper is, indeed, consistent with the religion?

Can Jews eat pork? Why or why not?

Technically, if a believer decides their belief is proper, then it is. But in order to be part of a sect, then that would be the sect. That can be a large group or a small group.

It all depends on what you mean by "proper". I can go to a christian church and say I'm a christian. But if my beliefs don't align, I'm unlikely to be accepted to their sect.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Technically, if a believer decides their belief is proper, then it is. But in order to be part of a sect, then that would be the sect. That can be a large group or a small group.

It all depends on what you mean by "proper". I can go to a christian church and say I'm a christian. But if my beliefs don't align, I'm unlikely to be accepted to their sect.

That's insane. That is the opposite of religiion.

 

[ll74]

That's insane. That is the opposite of religiion.

Religion does not require structure. It doesn't even require more than one person. It only requires belief.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Religion does not require structure. It doesn't even require more than one person. It only requires belief.

Believe it or not, Islam actually has a structure and actual beliefs. And the separation of mosque and state is not one of them.

Prove me wrong.

What you are describing is nihilism, not religion.

 

[ll74]

Believe it or not, Islam actually has a structure and actual beliefs. And the separation of mosque and state is not one of them.

Prove me wrong.

What you are describing is nihilism, not religion.

All religion has a structure and actual beliefs. And all sects interpret those the way they want to....many times they align with the core religion...other times they don't. Islam is no different from Christianity is no different from Buddhism is no different than ...etc..etc

That's why it's a belief and not a rigid thing. If enough of a majority of the core sect decide to change something, then things change.

I don't need to prove what a belief is. It requires the buy-in from the person believing.

No, I'm not describing nihilism, since that would be a rejection of a religion, which rejects interpretation of any kind.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

All religion has a structure and actual beliefs. And all sects interpret those the way they want to....many times they align with the core religion...other times they don't. Islam is no different from Christianity is no different from Buddhism is no different than ...etc..etc

That's why it's a belief and not a rigid thing. If enough of a majority of the core sect decide to change something, then things change.

I don't need to prove what a belief is. It requires the buy-in from the person believing.

No, I'm not describing nihilism, since that would be a rejection of a religion, which rejects interpretation of any kind.

You're incoherent on top of being dishonest.

First you claim I "misunderstand" Islam when I point out - correctly - that there is no separation of mosque and state in it. The very idea that I "misunderstand" Islam (according to you) implies that there is a correct understanding of Islam. I think even you can admit that.

So where does one find that definition of what Islam is, if not the Koran and hadith?

 

[ll74]

You're incoherent on top of being dishonest.

First you claim I "misunderstand" Islam when I point out - correctly - that there is no separation of mosque and state in it. The very idea that I "misunderstand" Islam (according to you) implies that there is a correct understanding of Islam. I think even you can admit that.

So where does one find that definition of what Islam is, if not the Koran and hadith?

Yes, if you adhere to the koran as the letter of the "law", there are lots of things that are required. But nothing requires you to do so except people within the main sect. The "correct" understanding of any religion is simply the majority sect...islam even has a few main ones who are in conflict the majority of the time....neither one is required to be the "correct" one and both could be incorrect to someone who practices a different type.

Some muslims see sharia law as the religion guiding government. Others interpret sharia law to mean the governmental law of the country they reside in.

If you want to adhere to a sect's religion, then you can, but nothing requires you to. baptists believe in a different perspective than mormons. Both are christians.

Belief is not a fixed thing.