Taliban Government

[ishtat]

Most publicity of the new government has stressed the fact that five members of the new government are on the FBI's most wanted list. However, there are more important observations:

1. 90% of the ministers are Pashtuns who are 35% of the population. Two are not, there is one Hazara representing 9% of the population and 1 Tajik representing 35% of the population. 80% of the new ministers are known to have lived under the protection of either Pakistan or Qatar over the last 20 years.

2.The Uzbeks, Turkmen, Aimaq, Baloch, and 12 other distinct ethnic groups have all been excluded.

3. 40% of all the ministers are Islamic clerics.

4. The influence of the Pakistan military is scary. They have been protecting these people as they protected Osama bin Laden. Recent reports indicate that they have supported the Taliban with Drone attacks against the Tajik hold outs in the Panjshir valley.

This is effectively a Pashtun/Pakistan defeat of the USA and of the old Northern Alliance. Basically a powder keg, bound to explode sooner or later.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

As long as it explodes over there and not here.

 

[pecksniff]

There is not really any majority ethnic group in Afghanistan.

And the presence of Muslim clerics in a Taliban government should come as no surprise.

 

[vastiesmith100]

Get real

Muslim clerics is a joke, They are terrorists

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Catholic priests is a joke, they are pedophiles.

 

[pecksniff]

Rabbis is a joke, because Jewish humor.

 

[colddiesel]

One factor that the thread starter missed is the fact that the 'New Taliban' government is largely the old Taliban of more than 20 years ago, the same people re-cycled.

None of the new generation that did the actual fighting has got a job in this government. Some of the ambitious young fellas will be miffed, and given that Revolutions usually consume themselves, it's a pretty safe bet that the old guys who were fighting from the safety of Qatar and Pakistan are gunna be sucking on some bullets before too long.

 

[ll74]

Most publicity of the new government has stressed the fact that five members of the new government are on the FBI's most wanted list. However, there are more important observations:

1. 90% of the ministers are Pashtuns who are 35% of the population. Two are not, there is one Hazara representing 9% of the population and 1 Tajik representing 35% of the population. 80% of the new ministers are known to have lived under the protection of either Pakistan or Qatar over the last 20 years.

2.The Uzbeks, Turkmen, Aimaq, Baloch, and 12 other distinct ethnic groups have all been excluded.

3. 40% of all the ministers are Islamic clerics.

4. The influence of the Pakistan military is scary. They have been protecting these people as they protected Osama bin Laden. Recent reports indicate that they have supported the Taliban with Drone attacks against the Tajik hold outs in the Panjshir valley.

This is effectively a Pashtun/Pakistan defeat of the USA and of the old Northern Alliance. Basically a powder keg, bound to explode sooner or later.

Your point number 4 seems to be missing from a lot of the discussion in this forum on the topic. We placated to the Pakistani government way too much, to achieve a stability that was never realized nor delivered on by their government. Every Administration should have had a more aggressive stance towards that country. I think we may have had a different outcome in Afghanistan if we had done so.

 

[pecksniff]

Your point number 4 seems to be missing from a lot of the discussion in this forum on the topic. We placated to the Pakistani government way too much, to achieve a stability that was never realized nor delivered on by their government. Every Administration should have had a more aggressive stance towards that country. I think we may have had a different outcome in Afghanistan if we had done so.

I suppose every admin wanted to avoid a war with Pakistan just because that would have been a much, much tougher fight than Afghanistan or Iraq.