Talent doesn't mean squat for a woman in the music business if she's not "sexy"

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Talent doesn't mean squat for a woman in the music business if she's not "sexy"

I'm so ashamed that I neither buy nor download top 40 music.

NOT.

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/43710095

Sexiness a must for today's lady singers

05/17/2007 5:17 PM, AP
Nekesa Mumbi Moody

She was an "amazing talent," a young singer with a wonderful voice who wrote beautiful songs. But she was no beauty, plus flat-chested and overweight to boot.

Remembering the aspiring star, music executive Jody Gerson still feels terrible about thinking: "She's never going to get signed, even though she's fabulous."

Gerson might feel even worse after Wednesday night's exit of the matronly Melinda Doolittle from "American Idol." In today's music industry, Plain Janes need not apply. Sex appeal was once considered a bonus for a woman; now it's practically a requirement.

Doolittle and the heavyset, gap-toothed LaKisha Jones were widely considered this season's most talented "Idol" contestants. Yet both were eliminated from the final four in favor of Blake Lewis, who makes the teen girls swoon, and the long-locked, 17-year-old looker Jordin Sparks.

A quick check of the Billboard Top 40 turns up a list of candidates for "America's Top Model": Avril Lavigne, blonde stunner Carrie Underwood; tomboyish but sexy Ciara, fashionista Gwen Stefani and hip-swiveling Shakira (on a song featuring bootylicious Beyonce).

The only two in the Top 40 who might not be considered perfect 10s: Pink, who is still svelte and appealing; and multiplatinum Grammy-winner Kelly Clarkson, who got her break only through winning the democratically elected "American Idol."

When asked whether a female with so-so looks and sex appeal could get a record deal, Gretchen Wilson quickly replied: "They can't."

"I believe that very few will get through and they better be amazing," Wilson said in an interview. "The music is not about just music anymore, it's about the look, the 'it' factor if you will ... it's marketing."

True, looks have always been a part of the music business: Diana Ross played a model in the movie "Mahogany," Marianne Faithfull was considered a beauty, Tina Turner's legs were part of her sex appeal, Olivia Newton-John was the lovely girl-next-door and Stevie Nicks rocked teenage boys with more than just her guitar.

But there also were stars like wild-haired, pudgy Janis Joplin and Barbra Streisand, who challenged beauty standards with her protruding nose. Even curvy Aretha Franklin was known mainly for her one-of-a-kind voice.

Today, it's hard to find a singer larger than a size 6 and without a sexy look — all of which are played up with sensuous videos, modeling spreads and provocative magazine covers. Lavigne, who once scoffed at singers who stripped for the cameras, fronts the new issue of Blender topless save for a strategically placed banner that reads "Hell Yeah, I'm Hot!"

The hit reality show "Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search for the Next Doll" is a striking example. In finding a replacement for current lead doll, stunner Nicole Scherzinger, the judging panel — which included the cosmetically enhanced rapper Lil' Kim — did talk about vocal qualities. But while a few contestants had strong voices, all were taut, toned and sexy, and the focus was more on their dancing and overall desirability. Which is to be expected from the group responsible for the anthem "Don't Cha" (as in, "don't cha wish your girlfriend was hot like me?").

Even singers who are heralded for their talent are gorgeous, like Alicia Keys, Corinne Bailey Rae or Norah Jones. And while critically acclaimed Amy Winehouse may not win any beauty contests, her songs have a raw sexuality that give her that "it" factor.

Dolly Parton, whose buxom figure sometimes overshadowed her talent as a songwriter and singer, said being "a good looking woman certainly can't hurt you any if you're trying to make it."

"But I would like to believe that true and great and pure talent will rise above whatever else," the country legend said in an interview. "But certainly in music these days, the better you look, the more apt you're going to get a contract.

"It's a damn pity, though, that people have to judge real talent on looks."

Gerson says the way female artists look reflects our society, where women are constantly judged on their appearance and oversexualized. But she also says it reflects the way we listen to music these days — or don't listen.

"They have to look hot and sexy in these videos," says Gerson, who is credited with helping discover Alicia Keys, among others, and is now executive vice president of the U.S. Creative division of EMI Music Publishing.

"In the days of Aretha Franklin, people saw Aretha maybe a couple of times a year," she said, "but you listened to a record without a visual. You didn't watch it. Everything today, you watch it."

Gerson also agrees with Wilson about the marketing factor. With dwindling profits and budgets, record labels try to maximize artist exposure with clothing deals, cosmetic contracts, movie roles and modeling gigs.

"How many endorsements does Beyonce have? Do you think it's because she's the most talented person on earth or do you think it's because she's gorgeous? I think she's talented but she's also gorgeous," Gerson says. "I think you need the whole package."

And that notion, according to Wilson, "totally sucks."

"My favorite singers in the world were Patsy Cline and Loretta Lynn, and Patsy was a large woman, and Loretta — she was never some kind of a supermodel, but they were the greatest female voices in country music, and they changed lives and they made a difference," says Wilson, who, although considered sexy, feels she doesn't fit today's beauty standards.

Where are the Patsy Clines of today? More often than not on smaller, underground labels, which put more of a premium on talent. And with the devolution of today's music industry, Gerson says, small labels may be the best path to success for a woman who doesn't look like a mold of a Barbie doll.

So how would Gerson advise the flat-chested, overweight, amazingly talented singer to chase her dream? Put out her own music and promote herself on the Web.

"As far as we've come as women," Gerson asked, "where are we really?"
 
PinkFurball said:
Video killed the radio star.
Saloon stage killed the midieval bard.
Orchestra killed the saloon stage star.
Radio killed the orchestra star.
Video killed the radio star.
Internet killed the video star. :)
 
LovingTongue said:
http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/43710095

Sexiness a must for today's lady singers

05/17/2007 5:17 PM, AP
Nekesa Mumbi Moody

She was an "amazing talent," a young singer with a wonderful voice who wrote beautiful songs. But she was no beauty, plus flat-chested and overweight to boot.

Remembering the aspiring star, music executive Jody Gerson still feels terrible about thinking: "She's never going to get signed, even though she's fabulous."

Gerson might feel even worse after Wednesday night's exit of the matronly Melinda Doolittle from "American Idol." In today's music industry, Plain Janes need not apply. Sex appeal was once considered a bonus for a woman; now it's practically a requirement.

Doolittle and the heavyset, gap-toothed LaKisha Jones were widely considered this season's most talented "Idol" contestants. Yet both were eliminated from the final four in favor of Blake Lewis, who makes the teen girls swoon, and the long-locked, 17-year-old looker Jordin Sparks.

A quick check of the Billboard Top 40 turns up a list of candidates for "America's Top Model": Avril Lavigne, blonde stunner Carrie Underwood; tomboyish but sexy Ciara, fashionista Gwen Stefani and hip-swiveling Shakira (on a song featuring bootylicious Beyonce).

The only two in the Top 40 who might not be considered perfect 10s: Pink, who is still svelte and appealing; and multiplatinum Grammy-winner Kelly Clarkson, who got her break only through winning the democratically elected "American Idol."

When asked whether a female with so-so looks and sex appeal could get a record deal, Gretchen Wilson quickly replied: "They can't."

"I believe that very few will get through and they better be amazing," Wilson said in an interview. "The music is not about just music anymore, it's about the look, the 'it' factor if you will ... it's marketing."

True, looks have always been a part of the music business: Diana Ross played a model in the movie "Mahogany," Marianne Faithfull was considered a beauty, Tina Turner's legs were part of her sex appeal, Olivia Newton-John was the lovely girl-next-door and Stevie Nicks rocked teenage boys with more than just her guitar.

But there also were stars like wild-haired, pudgy Janis Joplin and Barbra Streisand, who challenged beauty standards with her protruding nose. Even curvy Aretha Franklin was known mainly for her one-of-a-kind voice.

Today, it's hard to find a singer larger than a size 6 and without a sexy look — all of which are played up with sensuous videos, modeling spreads and provocative magazine covers. Lavigne, who once scoffed at singers who stripped for the cameras, fronts the new issue of Blender topless save for a strategically placed banner that reads "Hell Yeah, I'm Hot!"

The hit reality show "Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search for the Next Doll" is a striking example. In finding a replacement for current lead doll, stunner Nicole Scherzinger, the judging panel — which included the cosmetically enhanced rapper Lil' Kim — did talk about vocal qualities. But while a few contestants had strong voices, all were taut, toned and sexy, and the focus was more on their dancing and overall desirability. Which is to be expected from the group responsible for the anthem "Don't Cha" (as in, "don't cha wish your girlfriend was hot like me?").

Even singers who are heralded for their talent are gorgeous, like Alicia Keys, Corinne Bailey Rae or Norah Jones. And while critically acclaimed Amy Winehouse may not win any beauty contests, her songs have a raw sexuality that give her that "it" factor.

Dolly Parton, whose buxom figure sometimes overshadowed her talent as a songwriter and singer, said being "a good looking woman certainly can't hurt you any if you're trying to make it."

"But I would like to believe that true and great and pure talent will rise above whatever else," the country legend said in an interview. "But certainly in music these days, the better you look, the more apt you're going to get a contract.

"It's a damn pity, though, that people have to judge real talent on looks."

Gerson says the way female artists look reflects our society, where women are constantly judged on their appearance and oversexualized. But she also says it reflects the way we listen to music these days — or don't listen.

"They have to look hot and sexy in these videos," says Gerson, who is credited with helping discover Alicia Keys, among others, and is now executive vice president of the U.S. Creative division of EMI Music Publishing.

"In the days of Aretha Franklin, people saw Aretha maybe a couple of times a year," she said, "but you listened to a record without a visual. You didn't watch it. Everything today, you watch it."

Gerson also agrees with Wilson about the marketing factor. With dwindling profits and budgets, record labels try to maximize artist exposure with clothing deals, cosmetic contracts, movie roles and modeling gigs.

"How many endorsements does Beyonce have? Do you think it's because she's the most talented person on earth or do you think it's because she's gorgeous? I think she's talented but she's also gorgeous," Gerson says. "I think you need the whole package."

And that notion, according to Wilson, "totally sucks."

"My favorite singers in the world were Patsy Cline and Loretta Lynn, and Patsy was a large woman, and Loretta — she was never some kind of a supermodel, but they were the greatest female voices in country music, and they changed lives and they made a difference," says Wilson, who, although considered sexy, feels she doesn't fit today's beauty standards.

Where are the Patsy Clines of today? More often than not on smaller, underground labels, which put more of a premium on talent. And with the devolution of today's music industry, Gerson says, small labels may be the best path to success for a woman who doesn't look like a mold of a Barbie doll.

So how would Gerson advise the flat-chested, overweight, amazingly talented singer to chase her dream? Put out her own music and promote herself on the Web.

"As far as we've come as women," Gerson asked, "where are we really?"

Since the latest idol eliminations seemed to prompt this, it's worth mentioning some of the flaws in this article.

1: For Melinda and Lakeisha, making it to the 3rd and 4th spots is a good thing, not an insult to large women.

2: Many beautiful women (Gina, Alaina, and Haley) were eliminated far before these two.

3: The soul music that they both sing is arguably the least popular style of music presented by any singer in the competition, which the exception of Sanjaya. Whatever type of music Sanjaya sang was automatically the worst style of music ever.

4: Sanjaya was the prettiest girl in the competition.

5: Jordin is younger and prettier then Lakeisha, and maybe Melinda (though I think Melinda's hot). She is definitely not the skinny model type, however. Actually, heavyset (by industry standards) women made it to 3 of the top 4 positions.

6: Lakeisha is not flat chested.

7: Kelly Clarkson is a perfect 10. Who the hell wrote this?

8: If Kelly Clarkson is not a perfect ten, and was only able to get a record label due to a democratic vote, doesn't that say more about the state of record companies then the state of our society's entertainment values? Maybe talent does mean a lot for a woman, but the record labels don't realize it.
 
Except in opera and jazz where thankfully talent still rules.
 
Kelly Clarkson is a perfect 10??
she looks like she got punched in the nose.
 
I think Kelly Clarkson and Pink are both pretty sexy.

It's sure a good thing that looks don't play any factor in men making it in the music industry.
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RawHumor said:
I think Kelly Clarkson and Pink are both pretty sexy.

It's sure a good thing that looks don't play any factor in men making it in the music industry.
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pink is the hottest by far listed in this thread.
 
Hester said:
pink is the hottest by far listed in this thread.
agreed

now everyone is gonna cry Regina Spektor or Amy Winehouse- but still attractive and camera friendly enough
maybe not Teen Vogue beauties, but they certainly will have a rave review
 
LovingTongue said:
I'm so ashamed that I neither buy nor download top 40 music.

Not surprising. There's a dire lack of new talent out there today.

Today's musical celebrities, I'll not bother to call them stars, need two criteria to survive.

1.Looks. You have to look good in the videos.

2. Similarity to whatever is hot today. Most everything on commercial radio today is a clone of everything else. None of the major labels want anything to do with change or innovation. They just want the profits to keep rolling in from the dreck that they market. And for this crap they want to restrict our access to their full retail. No wonder their is so much piracy going on.

Sorry about the rant. As a working DJ I see this every day. Bearing that in mind, I am compeled to buy retail to satisfy the law of the industry I work in.

However, as time goes on, I buy less and less top 40 as the requests for it get smaller and smaller. I guess people are starting to wise up.

PS. As for my choices, relatively contemporary people who will eventually rate being callled stars. Kid Rock, Sheryl Crow, Christina Aguilera, Pussycat Dolls.
 
Sex sells~

I can't see it based on one article and opinion....beauty is subjective to the receiver.

Most people I know don't prefer Gwen, Fergie or any of the cookie cutter singers, and like singers more "normal" like Amy Winehouse, Pink, Amy Lee, and Imogene Heep....

http://www.myspace.com/evanescence

http://www.myspace.com/pinkspage

http://www.myspace.com/amywinehouse

http://www.myspace.com/imogenheap

The beauty theory is wrong if the author would think about many more female singers that are great sellers in country as well as pop and rock.....instead of the current stable of fashion singers.

I think the author has some personal problems about beauty and talent that they should deal with instead of attacking singers and stereotyping them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_female_singers
 
Avalon38 said:
Kelly Clarkson is a perfect 10??
she looks like she got punched in the nose.
I just talked with all American hetero males and we all agreed that Kelly is at least a 8.

http://www.frontrowking.com/concerts/kelly%20clarkson/014.jpg

luxey313 said:
agreed

now everyone is gonna cry Regina Spektor or Amy Winehouse- but still attractive and camera friendly enough
maybe not Teen Vogue beauties, but they certainly will have a rave review
Both of them are attractive, too.

Come on, people if you were trying you'd start with Macy Gray.
 
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