Sure fire weight control - via your very own Sparkmeister.

[Guest]

Metabolism, schmetabolism......

First off - think of you body as a machine. And that your machine is unique to you – “that” is your metabolism.

Then think - "that machine," it needs fuel to keep going. Food/water etc.. Fuel.

Some people – they provide too much fuel, extra fuel - for their unique, metabolic machines - and that extra fuel gets stored. As fat.

Thusly - if you are fat, you are storing "extra" fuel – extra fuel that “you” are putting in your machine. Extra fuel that your machine is obviously not using. Extra calories that you (your machine) is not burning off.

It's so easy right?

And, so what would be the very few obvious answers to, "extra fuel storage," and controlling it, controlling its storage - to levels, maintenance levels, where you would like it to be?

The Sparkmeister’s simple rules of weight control.

1) Assess your machine. Know your metabolism. Fast, (Younger?)? Slow, (older? Genetics?)? Even a psychotic eating disorder maybe????

And, and, and – then…….

2) Logically figure - that as you get older - as your machine gets older - it will “slow down.” Hey, imagine that – it will slow down with age. So, it will need less fuel. You should eat less as you get older. We should all eat less as we get older.

3) Then, logically know that all this is relative to the "quality" of fuel (how many calories/fat etc.) and your own exercise (your self-control of how fast or slow you choose to operate your own machine).

4) And finally - don't let your mind fuck you. Don't think that because you eat this much in the past (when you were thin) that you can eat that much today when you are older. Don't let your mind tell you that you are hungry – simply because of old habits - when you are in fact - not.

[Many people, in particular aging/older Americans’ – eat too damn much food. 3 meals a day – the way most of us were taught – is far too much food. The mind gets used to that schedule and it’s hard to break free from that. Unless you know that it’s a bunch of bunk. Other societies, relative to age, eat far less food than most Americans. And guess what – most of them are fine. And guess what – they’re thinner too.]

Generally though - as you get older - as your machine slows down - you simply need far less food/fuel. Far less.

Eat less - say thin.

 

[Todd]

Let see that work in practice.

I eat one meal a day.

Generally 2 carrots one potatoe, 1/4 cup pf kidney beans, and a slcice of bread, glass of water{this is my summer meal diet}

It all fits on a single plate wieghs in at about 3/4 of a pound to a pound of food a day. I am exercising 2-3 hours a day. I am not losing any wieght and my paunch is building on a daily basis.

Theory doesn't work in practice when there is something that screws up a persons biosystems, for me my thyroid is screwed up, to a point where my metabolism is barely functioning.

If I follow your prescription and adjust to what my machine{body} needs then I would not be eating but once every three days.

 

[lavender]

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Todd? You are right.

That's what you would have to do to loose weight.

I eat one meal a day - sometimes two. That will decrease as I get older.

No, I have no thyroid problem.

But the plain and simple fact is - if you're fat - you are taking in too much food. It just don't get any simpler.

You, me - anyone - can be "prison thin" if we want - you simply have to cut your intake.

I don't give a shit about your thyroid - if I could control your diet - you'd be thin - and alive too.

 

[Todd]

Whoa??? One meal a day Todd? And you say you don't eat anything???? What happened to our Pizza hut buffet man and falafel boy? Are these things of the past?

everything has been cut off for the last two-three months now trying to keep the ballooning in some sort of control.


Heatlhy thyroid TSH is 2.00-3.00, Canada standards for healthy thyroid TSH is 4.00-5.00, mine is 9.00-11.00

I went for 2 weeks drinking only water, exercising specific aerobic exercise 3 hours a day and put on 12 pounds and 3 inches to the waist

 

[Markov Cain]

When I train for a fight, I use the distance runner's diet, or at least a variation of it where I eat small amounts continually which keeps your body's metabolism working full time digesting food.

I usually experience weight loss when in catabolic hybernation.

Would this work for your condition rather than the one meal a day which forces your body to want to store anything it can get it's hands (villli?) on?

 

[Starfish]

Sparky, you are no Biologist, that's for sure!

Sparkster, I hate to say it, but you are really far off the mark here, in giving that there are ALWAYS exceptions to the norm.

It seems like this would be the case, huh? "If your fat, you eat too much."

Sorry, but you are VERY wrong.

There are many factors which disrupt the process known as the Citric Acid (Kreb's) Cycle (look it up, it is our primary means of the formation of Adenosine Tri Phosphate (a.k.a. Energy).

One of these factors is hormonal (as in Todds case).... NOT CALORIC.

Your theory here, is as primitive as homecooked meals (sorry, but it is true for a lot of people).


Sure, there are a lot of glutonous porkers out there, that need to stop inhaling everything in sight. There are also a great deal of older folk who still eat like they are 19, and don't excersize to keep their metabolism up. BUT, many many many people who suffer from weight problems are victims of biological imbalances, that food has nothing to do with.


You assume that a person can live off what Todd consumes and the truth is that it isn't so. We have a minimum amount of required nutrients we must get just to keep our systems in repair, alone, and a significantly higher amount to run on.
The human diet is weak in essential amino acids and B vitamins (highly essential for immuno stability and metabolism), and full of protiens which are reasonably (not all) useless to our cells.
This lack alone, aside from the contributing lack of other nutrients needed, can lead to improper metabolism, thus resulting in the storing of "fat" which mostly comes from Carbohydrates and sugars, not fat. Most people who eat junk alone are fat due to a lack of nutrients needed to complete cellular repair, metabolism and function. The body goes into slow shut down, thus storing fat to assume a possible defense. This results in "laziness" due to the lack of ATP production.

People who suffer from immune system degredation, such as myself, have degenerative metabolisms due to a disruption in the Kreb's Cycle, due to an allergen, or some other outside factor.

I am not surprised that most people who are normal, healthy people actually think that all people fall under the same "laws" but you are simply dead wrong. Don't get so stuck in a mental rut by buying into what you've assumed (based on your own experiance) about the human body. There is still so much we don't know.



Spark, search and learn about the entire human system, including each individual system, in detail, as I have to, and then assume a stance on the matter.

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

I never said there were no reasonable, medical exception - and never thought.......

there would not be plenty of them.

However - every exception you can list/find.....

I can bring their weight down - by not feeding them.

Everyone.

 

[BlondGirl]

It is not like smoking--you can't quit eating cold turkey.
It is stupid and dangerous. I see people who do that in desperation and their bodies always suffer terribly (referring to major weight loss as opposed to under 10 lbs).

Educated people (he he--put his in here for Siren's benefit) understand that starvation even though it seems obvious, it is not the best way.

Your suggestion is like telling your kid that you are gonna buy him a pair of shoes and if they don't fit, it is too fucking bad--he will wear them no matter what and if they don't work for him--he is just a failure and can not be redeemed no matter what.

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

I wish people would "read!"

I have never "suggested here" that anyone "do" - anything.

I'm just pointing out the cold hard fact that if a person limits their intake of nutrition "enough" - "they will" loose weight.

This is a fact. Anyone, any body, anyplace, with any kind of condition, mental thing or genetic predisposal - will loose weight - if the limit their food intake - enough.

I don't suggest that anyone "do" this - I just point out the factual, logical, equation.

P (person) plus (of 200lbs) - (minus) N (all food over a relativity of time) = (equals) P (that same person) minus (lots of weight)

 

[*Lazer*]

With all due respect Sparky that is a not a healthy way of reducing your weight. A more sane approach is to increase your exercise and limit your intake of junk foods. A balenced diet ensures you get vitamins and minerals that you need to stay healthy. There is no way you do that eating one meal and it is a horrible example to your children.

Todd if what you say is true you need to get into a doctor ASAP!! You can die from heart failure secondary to hypothroidism. If you notice yourself being sluggish mentally, cold and tired all the time please go to the emergency room. You need to be medically stabilized at once. Your recent picture on another thread and your edema tell me you could be in serious trouble. Please seek treatment!! With your diabetes it is imperative that you be medically monitered!

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Hey Doctor Lazer.......

Again - I advocate nothing here.

I only bring a fact to fore.

I do only one meal per day - I do suppliment with vitamins. And yes I even walk 4 miles per day.

And on occasion - I even work out a bit.

I "my" case (remember I did say, "know your machine/metabolism," I have a high rate of metabolism, a genetic gift - I am also a "thin/lanky person" another genetic wonder.

However - if I over indulge - I will gain weight - mostly in the gut area.

So - knowing myself - one meal a day works very well - I have long ago "trained" my mind to "get over" the "American perportions insanity," and the 3 meal a day bullshit that is not necessary for my particular "machine."

I do not lack for energy. I do not ever feel weak.

Everyone is different for sure - everyone will have some sort of unique combo that will work for them. But "some" combo of the above - intake, excersize and mental monitoring - will work for all.

 

[*Lazer*]

Once again you fail to address key points. You were the one that said your method worked for "anyone". I merely stated that a healthier and less insulting way to reduce weight to increase exercise and decrease junk food. I will once again put you back on ignore as you obviously want to hear only your own opinion. I was stupid to think you would entertain anything but the echo of your own tailpipes. Ignore button ON!

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Hooty - hooty - hooty...

Calling Doc Lazer, calling Doc Lazer.......

I need this big stick removed from my ass and exercise just don't cut it.....

Calling Doctor Lazer.