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Summing up. Legacy, etc. (Bush)

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Barnes on ten significant achievements of George Bush.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/986rockt.asp

[note: i am not endorsing, merely reporting the claims.]
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the list

1. opposed kyoto; and push to recognize global warming
2. enhanced interrogation of terrorists
3. rebuilding presidential authority
4. unswerving supportly of Israel; backed the wall
5. instigated no child left behind act
6. focused on promoting democracy in other countries
7. set up medicare, prescription drugs
8. appointed roberts and alito to SC
9. stengthened relations with Japan and Indea.
10. undertook the 'surge'.
 
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Bush has zero significant achievements. He's an empty suit, for all intents and purposes. Anyone who brought him bad news was fired. And then the shit exploded in his face. In the end he took care of the other perfumed princes and sent the bill to America.
 
I saw this earlier and resisted commenting. But...

All I see lately is spin and hope that he won't be judged harshly by history. Time will tell but my money is on a low ranking for all time.
 
"not judged too harshly," in W's case, equals a simple assesment of him as a war criminal and knowing handpuppet.

Judging him too harshly equals... that he didn't love his dog, I suppose.
 
I read a quirky little satirical piece that looked at 'president' Gore's legacy -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/14/al-gore-democrats-us-news

As for reality and Bush it makes for much sorrier reading.

Two foreign wars of dubious morality, a derailed economy and a period that probably saw the end of the US as the sole remaining superpower. It's hard to see how history will judge him with anything but unkindness.
 
It's like the Weekly Standard exists in a parallel universe where integrity is inverted. Every one of Bush's "accomplishments" (except for the surge, which is debatable) are detrimental to either the USA, the world, the environment, or humankind in general.

I had the misfortune of accidentally seeing a snippet of his TV news conference the other day. He was actually miffed that a reporter would ask him if he would admit to making any mistakes. The guy reminded me of the spoiled rich kid who has a hissy fit when he doesn't get his way. What an asswipe.

The hardest thing to understand? The fact that two out of ten Americans still give him a favorable approval rating. What is that all about?
 
DeeZire said:
It's like the Weekly Standard exists in a parallel universe where integrity is inverted. Every one of Bush's "accomplishments" (except for the surge, which is debatable) are detrimental to either the USA, the world, the environment, or humankind in general.

I had the misfortune of accidentally seeing a snippet of his TV news conference the other day. He was actually miffed that a reporter would ask him if he would admit to making any mistakes. The guy reminded me of the spoiled rich kid who has a hissy fit when he doesn't get his way. What an asswipe.

The hardest thing to understand? The fact that two out of ten Americans still give him a favorable approval rating. What is that all about?
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Christ on a stick, who IS this Fred Barnes fuckwit? I swear, I read this and it felt like "Thank you, Big Brother, for raising the chocolate ration to 20 grams!" Yes, Fred says, he did it his way and what a man George is for this, and it's all liberal spin that he fucked up the economy, that the earth is experiencing a climate change crisis, and that the war was unnecessary, but George was a MAN! Yeah, yeah, go play with yourself, Fred.
 
Katyusha said:
Oh. My. God. That has to be the most myopic thing I've EVER read.
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I actually read it... After the 1st "achievement" I figured the rest would be a parody.... I found it entertaining and laughed until I finished it.
 
Youre SOOOOOOOOOOOOO gonna miss Dubya. You really are. Sad.

So far Obama isnt President and has done nuthin much, but in a week its showtime for him.
 
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Fred, Fred, Fred, I am surprised that you had the guts to print that drivel.

While all the tripe was spin and no substance, the bit about the "Surge" was pathetic.

Think back to 'Pre-Surge' days.

The Army was running around in Iraq like pre-teens playing Wack-A-Mole and Rummy was saying, "It's not an insergency, it's just Dead-Enders." Then they brought in General P who had the sense to see what was happening, the Army was so jacked up on making grand gestures and getting their Majors and Colonols promoted that they forgot that the Iraqies were people.

General P, who had been in Viet Nam, remembered that the goal was to win the hearts and minds, and changed the Army's priorities. The additional men, that had been needed since the fall of Baghdad, were brought in over Rummies objections and began to quell the viloence.

To give Bush credit for finally accepting reality and allowing a professional to choose the tactics is one thing, to credit him with dreaming up an anti-insergency strategy is insane. Bush is the one that caused the insergency in the first place!

It is like saying that a steel reinforced building will just crumble from the heat of free burning jet fuel. It defies the laws of physics.
 
No hysteria. It's a staunch defence of a roundly despised President.

Bush's Ten Achievements.

1. He reinforced and gave credibility to the European Union by making it clear that a only a united and strong Europe can have a 'world voice'.

2. Bush snapped like a twig the 'special relationship' between the USA and United Kingdom, pushing the UK firmly into the European camp.

3. He enabled the liberalisation of Chinese Commerce without extracting a single concession with regard to Democracy.

4. He denied American scientists the right to develop science through Stem Cell Research.

5. Bush derided law by acting outside the law to achieve Security for the USA, yet despite the detention camps and the long interrogation of suspects, no significant arrests of terrorists suspects have been achieved. Overlooking that 9/11 consisted of three attacks, not one, the USA's borders remain porous to infiltration by enemies of the state.

6. Bush's administration oversaw the largest financial collapse in modern times, a legacy impossible for history to correct.

7. His petty signing away of reserves for mineral exploitation in recent weeks mark the character of the man, shallow, uncaring of environmental issues.

8. His Liberal Agenda... yes, there was a Liberal Agenda... slumped under the surge of the Religious Right promoting the opportunity for a Liberal backlash.

9. By failing to tackle immigration, he allowed the USA to suffer the extremes of poverty in opportunity. The American Dream lies in tatters.

10. He expanded English vocabulary with a host of new almost-words, inventing the single word conundrum that will form the basis for University Doctorates for decades to come.
 
I'm thinking that Bush will be the last President elected from 'Frontier America'. That 19th Century mind set is now in decline, the object lessons taught by its failure won't be forgotten.
 
Well -- I looked at the article, and for a long time I wasn't sure if it was serious or satiricial.

Bush's unswerving support for Israel and the building of the boundary wall? That's an achievement?

Bush on global warming? First of all, Bush has caved in on global warming. He's out there now trying to be just a green as anyone else. Second, whether or not the earth is cooling (which apparently it is) -- it's not what you see on the news. That whole section is total bullshit.

Waterboarding? Illegal wiretaps? Stonewalling Congress on his VP's illegal activities? These are good things?

Really, this makes me dizzy. I'm suffering from cognitive dissonance.
 
the list

for discussion, barnes' list. a teeny bit surreal?


Bush accomplishments:
1. opposed kyoto and push to recognize global warming
2. enhanced interrogation of terrorists (waterboarding, etc.)
3. rebuilt presidential authority
4. unswervingly supported of Israel; backed building the wall
5. instigated 'no child left behind act'
6. f.p. focused on promoting democracy in other countries
7. set up medicare, for prescription drugs
8. appointed young conservatives roberts and alito to SC
9. stengthened relations with Japan and India.
10. undertook the 'surge'.
 
neonlyte said:
Overlooking that 9/11 consisted of three attacks, not one, the USA's borders remain porous to infiltration by enemies of the state.
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Actually, it was four. The lives lost on Flight 93 were spent in defense of those on the ground, but the heroism of those on board in no way means that it was not an attack. It was less successful due to the actions of those who chose to sacrifice their lives to save others.
 
Pure said:
for discussion, barnes' list. a teeny bit surreal?


Bush accomplishments:
1. opposed kyoto and push to recognize global warming
Thank god somebody took a stand against "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" that's the result of what may turn out to be an astonishingly successful BIG LIE.
2. enhanced interrogation of terrorists (waterboarding, etc.)
As far as I'm concerned, it beats hell out of a mushroom cloud over New England.
3. rebuilt presidential authority
4. unswervingly supported of Israel; backed building the wall
5. instigated 'no child left behind act'
A not insignificant number of educators say: "And it was high time somebody took a stand against automatic promotion and the sclerotic entrenched bureaucracy."
6. f.p. focused on promoting democracy in other countries
... and the problem with this is?
7. set up medicare, for prescription drugs
I don't hear many complaints ( except for my own because I'm one of the folk who end up footing the bill ).
8. appointed young conservatives roberts and alito to SC
Praise be; a nation besotted with legislating from the bench is a nation on the road to intolerable limitations on individual liberty. Strict constructionism needed a voice.
9. stengthened relations with Japan and India.
10. undertook the 'surge'.
The rush to judgment by instantaneous pundits and knee-jerk sophists is astoundingly short sighted. Check back in fifteen years.
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Belegon said:
Actually, it was four. The lives lost on Flight 93 were spent in defense of those on the ground, but the heroism of those on board in no way means that it was not an attack. It was less successful due to the actions of those who chose to sacrifice their lives to save others.
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Followed by the anthrax-by-mail attacks. Everyone seems to forget about those far too conveniently, it seems to me.
 
Belegon said:
Actually, it was four. The lives lost on Flight 93 were spent in defense of those on the ground, but the heroism of those on board in no way means that it was not an attack. It was less successful due to the actions of those who chose to sacrifice their lives to save others.
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Quite right, thanks for correcting. Did those guy's get some kind of posthumous recognition for their bravery?
 
Huckleman2000 said:
Followed by the anthrax-by-mail attacks. Everyone seems to forget about those far too conveniently, it seems to me.
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Wasn't that an 'inside job' rather than 'classic terrorism' - the effect was terrorism but I recall it wasn't conducted for the purpose of ideology. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
They still don't know.

I suspect they're keeping it quiet because the prime suspect, now deceased, was a bigwig in the bio-warfare field.

Or at least that's what I read.
 
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