'Sugar Daddy' character.

[Cruel2BKind]

I recently submitted a story to lit about prostitution. There is a young man in a bad situation where both of his parents die and he and a few older siblings have to take care of their younger siblings. Anyway, he turns to the streets and finds a pimp.

I have a good half or so of the story finished though I have only released the first chapter. I'm going to have the main character fall in love with one of the other boys and try to work himself out of his hardship. But I recently got a comment from someone who hoped that my main character would fall in love with him pimp.

I barely characterized the pimp, he's just there as a boss. He's old and gross, but this idea of a 'sugar daddy' is so prevalent that someone thought that my main character should go to him. The idea that if you are poor, the only way to drag yourself up is to find a rich kind benefactor.

I'm not sure how I feel about that. Especially after the story that I've outlined for my characters, to have my character fall in love with a rich benefactor just seems kind of lazy.

Thoughts? Has anyone else used the 'sugar daddy' archetype?

 

[sr71plt]

A sugar daddy and a pimp are two different character types. I've had characters think they wanted their pimp (which was a major reason he was able to be their pimp) but then something changed in one or both (which, as a plotline, can go any of many different directions). I've also had characters fall for their sugar daddies--and the other way around--when they originally didn't go into the arrangement with love in mind. As a plotline, this too can go many different ways.

I think the bottom line is that there should be some sort of change in the plot or characters. Whether the story is either fresh or believeable, though, depends on how clever the author is in spinning the story.

BUT, a pimp and a sugar daddy are not the same character. (The twist of a story can be that someone the reader was made to think was a sugar daddy was actually a pimp. I haven't seen a story going the other direction, though.)

 

[lovecraft68]

I recently submitted a story to lit about prostitution. There is a young man in a bad situation where both of his parents die and he and a few older siblings have to take care of their younger siblings. Anyway, he turns to the streets and finds a pimp.

I have a good half or so of the story finished though I have only released the first chapter. I'm going to have the main character fall in love with one of the other boys and try to work himself out of his hardship. But I recently got a comment from someone who hoped that my main character would fall in love with him pimp.

I barely characterized the pimp, he's just there as a boss. He's old and gross, but this idea of a 'sugar daddy' is so prevalent that someone thought that my main character should go to him. The idea that if you are poor, the only way to drag yourself up is to find a rich kind benefactor.

I'm not sure how I feel about that. Especially after the story that I've outlined for my characters, to have my character fall in love with a rich benefactor just seems kind of lazy.

Thoughts? Has anyone else used the 'sugar daddy' archetype?

I've come to learn that people here are in love with cliches. There are formulas in every scenario and they want them. Falling in love with the pimp goes along with a sub falling for the master, the victim loving her rapist etc...

Go with whatever you want to go with, don't get into letting people dictate the story to you.

However if you're trying to gain popularity and fav pages and votes give them the formula story.

I always made it a point to put a "spin" on my incest stories. I then around Christmas put one out that was so sleazy and nasty and full of buzz words and all based on a warped family tradition. I did this to see what the response would be and it went through the roof.

Creatures of habit, these one handed readers.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

Even if I'm never as popular as I could have been, I don't think I'll stick to the formula.

I got a small dedicated following that likes the spin I put on my stories. I'm happier with my fans than I would be with a massive group who just like formula.

I'm going to have Neil fight his way to the top through elbow grease and determination! (possibly, some other kind of grease as well)

 

[PennLady]

FWIW, I have to agree that a pimp and a sugar daddy are different critters. A pimp is an employer who takes a cut of his employees' earnings. A pimp wants his hookers to go out and make as much as possible, which means having as many sexual encounters as possible. A sugar daddy is more a benefactor (as someone said), and from what I understand they agree to bankroll a person in exchange for exclusive sex (I suppose other arrangements may happen but this is likely what we're talking about here).

 

[Cruel2BKind]

just to clarify, I know that the two are different. The commentator wanted the pimp to BECOME a sugar daddy.

The pimp was just a retired criminal who made a little money selling drugs and protecting a couple of rent boys. The comment went like this (I have left the horrendous grammar intact)

oH MY GOD

i have to say that i love this story the most ,i wish it would turn out for the best ,i really wish that ferdinand fall inlove with ryan ,or someone rich at least and help him out of this ,hope the next chapter will be soon

Ferdinand is the name of the pimp, Ryan was the fake name that my character was going under. The commentator specifically wants 'someone rich' to take care of my main character. Hence, why I titled this thread 'sugar daddy' instead of 'pimp'

 

[PennLady]

Ferdinand is the name of the pimp, Ryan was the fake name that my character was going under. The commentator specifically wants 'someone rich' to take care of my main character. Hence, why I titled this thread 'sugar daddy' instead of 'pimp'

Fair enough. I guess the next question is -- is this what you want to happen, or did you have other plans?

 

[PayDay]

I recently submitted a story to lit about prostitution. There is a young man in a bad situation where both of his parents die and he and a few older siblings have to take care of their younger siblings. Anyway, he turns to the streets and finds a pimp.

I have a good half or so of the story finished though I have only released the first chapter. I'm going to have the main character fall in love with one of the other boys and try to work himself out of his hardship. But I recently got a comment from someone who hoped that my main character would fall in love with him pimp.
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Thoughts?

I say, bare minimum, write the story how you wanted it to be. Then, if you want, because of the feedback, make a separate chapter (What if Ferdinand fell in love with Ryan) or a "Chapter 2.5: What If" scenario story, or make it a stand alone.

The feedback (despite the Grammar) is actually a pretty good suggestion for a stand alone story, no sense in wasting it if you can write it. The work would have at least one fan.

Plus, you can write it w/o coming across as sexist, especially in that category.

 

[BuckyDuckman]

I agree with Payday's advice. (And others, too) - write the story YOU want to watch, but if you're intrigued by the reader's suggestion, explore it.

I never considered a sequel to "Forgetting Bradford." I thought it was a nice, one-off story. I liked Vicki and Shelby and some of the characterization I managed, but that I told the story I wanted to tell and was done.

A reader with an interest in cum-play asked for a sequel that catered to their kink. He even offered to commission the sequel. I turned down the commission offer, but wrote "Forgetting Bradford, CH 02" - included more cum-play - and the sequel has outpaced the original with its score.

Scores aren't everything, of course. The original has been lucky enough to capture 42K page views and 28 Favs, while the sequel has only been discovered by 25K and added to 10 Favs. I think the closer appeal to a well defined fetish helps the sequel score higher.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

I'm definitely keeping the story the way I meant for it to go. I accidentally made a mistake. I haven't yet characterized the pimp in the chapter I sent out, so it kind of makes sense that someone would think that the pimp is the love interest. I wonder what his reaction is going to be when he finds out that Ferdinand is old and fat and gross in the next chapter!