Submissive wife

[randex]

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[Etoile]

I'm trying to come up with something to say, and I can't. The text entry field sits empty, beckoning. Or at least it did until I typed this.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

I'm trying to come up with something to say, and I can't. The text entry field sits empty, beckoning. Or at least it did until I typed this.

lol...same here..which is why i did not post anything..*skips outta the thread singing a 'trolling' song* made up as i go along....

 

[randex]

problems

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[catalina_francisco]

Hmmm, sorry, I looked and all that keeps rattling in my brain is 'Give the woman a few good feeds, please!!' This is not meant as humiliating or derogatory, but the woman is a walking skeleton and it would seriously worry me if she were mine.

Catalina

 

[chris9]

Hmmm, sorry, I looked and all that keeps rattling in my brain is 'Give the woman a few good feeds, please!!' This is not meant as humiliating or derogatory, but the woman is a walking skeleton and it would seriously worry me if she were mine.

Catalina

I totally agree.

 

[randex]

Skinny

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[catalina_francisco]

Hmmm, well most athletes do have muscle tone....I saw nothing but bone with skin stretched over it. Sorry, but it just reminded me too much of the pics of victims and survivors from the Holocaust and that stops all thought of sexual play for me and makes me just want to cook up a nice big dinner of meat, pasta, vegetables, and lots of fattening goodies to top it off.

Catalina

 

[chris9]

Hmmm, well most athletes do have muscle tone....I saw nothing but bone with skin stretched over it. Sorry, but it just reminded me too much of the pics of victims and survivors from the Holocaust and that stops all thought of sexual play for me and makes me just want to cook up a nice big dinner of meat, pasta, vegetables, and lots of fattening goodies to top it off.

Catalina

I'm gonna follow you around to second whatever you say. Butter. And cream. And chocolate cake with chocolate sauce and whipped cream for desert. Yummy.

 

[callinectes]

Cat, Chris..would y'all comment on the woman's appearance if she was heavy? My guess is probably not. IMHO, one is as rude as the other.

 

[SierraMoon]

Cat, Chris..would y'all comment on the woman's appearance if she was heavy? My guess is probably not. IMHO, one is as rude as the other.

Well, the OP said he wanted to hear how to humiliate her.. maybe that was their attempt at doing so?

 

[randex]

hmmm..

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[catalina_francisco]

Well, the OP said he wanted to hear how to humiliate her.. maybe that was their attempt at doing so?

Nah, I just commented from the heart and how I feel which is also what was being sought. I'm sorry callinectes but if I see someone that thin, and their partner continually asks for comments along the lines of what I would like to do with her, I am not one to be fake and say I am just lusting for her body and to spend a night of unbridled passion with her, or a long list of abuses I think would be good for her, when in truth as I said, my first reaction and each one after that was 'give her a feed, please' and that shut out an thoughts resembling erotic pursuits for me or anyone else involved. It really was my thought and still is and though I have people in my own family who have problems gaining weight, I have never known anyone who is healthy and eating right to look that thin that you can see their skeleton so clearly beneath the skin, and as I have said elsewhere on this board, super thin does not and never has been a point of appeal to me for a sexual partner.

I have seen models that thin (and thankfully there is a growing movement in Europe to not hire such models), but not athletes as the OP claims she has been. For me it concerns me as I have seen in many places on the net this growing trend to think it cool to have a female sub/slave who has a starved appearance (and has actually been starved to get that appearance), and even many who will encourage and suggest someone begin that process with their sub/slave and call it domination...it is not domination in my world, nor is it healthy and though it may not sit well with some, there are some things which immediately scream unhealthy to me, and like others who have other issues which scream the same thing to them, I tend to say something if I am really concerned or moved so I don't think later 'gee, I should have said something before it was too late'. Perhaps she really is just that unfortunately thin...I don't know, but suspect it is not the way it has to be...regardless, it does not appeal to me and I am not going to pretend it does.

And so some might say, why comment then? Well initially I didn't ( I read the OP as soon as it was posted)and the thread went unrespeonded to for several hours, overnight infact and the OP made it clear once again they wanted comments made and what they had received (2) was not enough. For me, asking again for people to look and comment (especially in a way I read to mean they felt the response had not been adequate for their needs) says they want comments, any type of comments, and to tell the truth, really comes off more as an advertisement for the APF thread then a genuine desire to take place in discussions about BDSM and all things related...IOW, it is about getting their rocks off through our responses which is fine, but I think it is more a Cafe type thread. As is often pointed out, if you post to a public forum, you cannot expect to get just the comments which you want...once it is posted public, you lose ownership and control over the response. My response relates to safety, which is something I often have something to say about and always will. People also comment on things we do which they feel are perhaps unsafe...we don't tell them they should not say something.

Catalina

 

[catalina_francisco]

Maybe, but this is not a food or kitchen forum. Or Dr Phil's stupid program.

If someone doesn't want to see skinny people that's her/his busines. But I think it would be correct to keep these "ideas" somewhere else.

Yes, but you see, this is not an amateur pic forum so perhaps it should be the thread that should be kept somewhere else, more so than our comments and responses to it?!

Catalina

 

[callinectes]

I pretty much agree with everything you are saying..but my question is, if she weighed 300 pounds would you have commented on her need to lose weight? If so, fair enough. I was just wondering.

Nah, I just commented from the heart and how I feel which is also what was being sought. I'm sorry callinectes but if I see someone that thin, and their partner continually asks for comments along the lines of what I would like to do with her, I am not one to be fake and say I am just lusting for her body and to spend a night of unbridled passion with her, or a long list of abuses I think would be good for her, when in truth as I said, my first reaction and each one after that was 'give her a feed, please' and that shut out an thoughts resembling erotic pursuits for me or anyone else involved. It really was my thought and still is and though I have people in my own family who have problems gaining weight, I have never known anyone who is healthy and eating right to look that thin that you can see their skeleton so clearly beneath the skin, and as I have said elsewhere on this board, super thin does not and never has been a point of appeal to me for a sexual partner.

I have seen models that thin (and thankfully there is a growing movement in Europe to not hire such models), but not athletes as the OP claims she has been. For me it concerns me as I have seen in many places on the net this growing trend to think it cool to have a female sub/slave who has a starved appearance (and has actually been starved to get that appearance), and even many who will encourage and suggest someone begin that process with their sub/slave and call it domination...it is not domination in my world, nor is it healthy and though it may not sit well with some, there are some things which immediately scream unhealthy to me, and like others who have other issues which scream the same thing to them, I tend to say something if I am really concerned or moved so I don't think later 'gee, I should have said something before it was too late'. Perhaps she really is just that unfortunately thin...I don't know, but suspect it is not the way it has to be...regardless, it does not appeal to me and I am not going to pretend it does.

And so some might say, why comment then? Well initially I didn't ( I read the OP as soon as it was posted)and the thread went unrespeonded to for several hours, overnight infact and the OP made it clear once again they wanted comments made and what they had received (2) was not enough. For me, asking again for people to look and comment (especially in a way I read to mean they felt the response had not been adequate for their needs) says they want comments, any type of comments, and to tell the truth, really comes off more as an advertisement for the APF thread then a genuine desire to take place in discussions about BDSM and all things related...IOW, it is about getting their rocks off through our responses which is fine, but I think it is more a Cafe type thread. As is often pointed out, if you post to a public forum, you cannot expect to get just the comments which you want...once it is posted public, you lose ownership and control over the response. My response relates to safety, which is something I often have something to say about and always will. People also comment on things we do which they feel are perhaps unsafe...we don't tell them they should not say something.

Catalina

 

[Etoile]

I'm in the "needs a sandwich" camp, but it's not something I'd have mentioned on my own. That said, though, I'm not sure she's actually as healthy as is claimed.

You know how Shakira said "hips don't lie" in that song? This picture leaves me thinking the same thing. Even the "dangerously thin" supermodel Kate Moss has more meat on her bones. The pictures of Jane remind me more of this picture, which is from a "thinspiration" website - a pro-anorexia site.

I'm not critiquing randex, Jane, or their lifestyle choices; they have the right to live how they wish. However, my opinion of the photos is that she appears to be thin to the point of being unhealthy. The side effects of being extremely underweight are well documented. I would say this even if I had no idea who she was - if I saw that picture on a random website, I would say the same thing.

Just my thoughts.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I pretty much agree with everything you are saying..but my question is, if she weighed 300 pounds would you have commented on her need to lose weight? If so, fair enough. I was just wondering.

I have at times....if you have seen our posting history, we also acknowledge our own weight and seriously overweight (and I consider it fair to mention seriously overweight as this incident is seriously underweight...and we have also started a thread before about Feeders ) in general as being unhealthy. That being said though, and in keeping with the theme of BDSM practices, though there are some in the lifestyle who are feeders, there are a lot fewer Doms who advocate actively increasing their sub/slaves weight into an unhealthy range than there are those thinking it cool to starve them to skeletal proportions.....those type abound in huge numbers and show no concern for the long term of short term risks involved, just what they perceive as their right to appear in their own (and their peers) minds, superdoms. Super pricks more like it.

Catalina

 

[randex]

hmph

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[catalina_francisco]

Ok, I'll stop posting pics!

We both know that Jane is underweight, but there is reasons for it. The reason is not Randex's demand. Randex himself likes also little more muscels.

BUT I'm very, very anxious to see writings (from women) about obviously overweight ladies!!!! How they tell it is sick and so on. You can be sure that FAT KILLS more people in western countries than bones.

It's not political correct to be horrified about fat woman! But its seems to be ok to criticed thin woman!!!

And I say it again: This is a erotic fantasy forum (also underweight people can have fantasies) NOT DR PHIL'S PROGRAM!!!

Of course you have right to write what you want - pity that very soon you healthy fasists are alone (with your beautifull fat)

Geez, it is easy to see you have not been reading the threads here in the past months if you are under the misconception no-one, especially the women here, have said anything against overweight people...to the contrary there have been many heated debates over past months on this forum which have criticised or debated the advisability of both underweight and overweight but though I have already said that and even pointed to one prior thread which dealt with overweight sub issues, you seeem to think it a witch hunt on super thin people, and furthermore, you hint it is because those commenting are overweight. LOL, even when I was what was considered the perfect size, I dared to comment on people who I saw to be excessivley and unhealthily over or underweight. As to being alone...lol, I can assure you I am not alone nor will I be because I am with someone who is more into who a person is than how much they weigh (though admittedly he also steers clear of skinny women and has forbidden me to go back to the weight I was when I was slimmer).


Out of interest, it was only a couple of weeks ago I was watching a news report from the UK about the misconception that thin means healthy. They sent in one of their female reporters who is of average slim build to be tested and though it came out she had good muscle tone and was on the underside of fat content in her metabolism for her height, it also showed she was way above the limit in cholesterol and was told by the doctors that she needed to change her diet to avoid further health problems in the future such as stroke and heart disease. Now looking at her I suspect she would get a tick from most as being a prime example of healthy because of her acceptable size, but the reality is she is not as healthy as appearances indicated. OTOH, I recently underwent tests at our cardiology department and though I am overweight, I was way inside the acceptable cholesterol level with plenty of room to spare, had what the doctors and technician described as amazing recovery rate (heart rate and blood pressure) after a physical stress test (in fact they could not remember when they had seen such a quick recovery to the starting level), and despite heart disease being a part of my family history, my heart was declared to have a strong and steady heartbeat indicating with the other tests and x-rays there was little need for concern...and yet if you saw me I suspect most would say I needed to lose weight quick and I must be dangerously unhealthy in terms of BP and heart and cholesterol. Strangely enough, it is far more likely overweight people will be and are criticised than underweight people, but that doesn't make it right. Such are the strange twists in life.

If we have offended you I apologise, but as you probably know, we tend to say what we think, especially in terms of areas of concern...though we rarely are abusive about it. Perhaps we just do not understand your reality, but on the surface it sparked the issue I have seen across the net of promoting this as the ideal state for a sub to be in. If it is unavoidable, you both have my empathy.

Catalina

 

[Etoile]

It's not political correct to be horrified about fat woman! But its seems to be ok to criticed thin woman!!!

What planet do you live on where thin people are abused and fat people are accepted? The last time I checked, our society celebrated skinny folks like Mary-Kate and Ashley Olson, and ridiculed fat folks like...oh, most of the population. The reason the weight loss industry is so freaking huge is because it's considered BAD to be overweight. Where on earth do you get the idea that the opposite is true?

 

[randex]

Jep, jep

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[catalina_francisco]

OK, what you are used to in terms of comments on pics comes from your experience on the APF. That forum is for the primary purpose of posting revealing, titillating, naughty pics and getting feedback...and is a place I have visited from time to time and even posted to happily. The fact the feedback is usually positive is not coincidental, or a reflection of people actually being nicer, it is because they go there to view such material and to make what may seem to be unfair or judgemental remarks is going to be basically cutting their own throat and risking continued supply of pics to look at.

Here it is more about BDSM, and for the Cafe, chat amongst posters who have an interest in BDSM but may want to chat about something else between themselves. Though we have some pic threads, they are usually more of a community effort (contributions from many, not just one), or on a particular theme where others may also post pics of the same theme or topic, but not usually a pic thread looking for comments on the poses, the poster, etc. There have been a couple of people who have begun threads of APF nature here, but they have been few and often have not had a great response, especially if from people we do not often see here, or have not seen here. It is not a judgement, just it is not the focus of the forum and Lit does say they want to keep some separation between forums as in content otherwise why have separate forums? Some of the comments made here, as I have said, have referred to both underweight and overweight issues...you have not been singled out for special treatment. Either you accept that, or you be content with the comments from the APF which from what I saw were not bad...why do you also need us to bend over ba

We have not been rude, we have not been abusive, we have just responded honestly and out of concern when you continued to request we have something to say. Out of interest, we also had a regular poster here who used to get many comments and questions about her excessive thinness...her partner had very rude comments to make about people who were not her size and which she later said she did not agree with...so once again, this is not a matter of your being singled out or being not as well known here, it is a reaction to something we do get concerned about when we don't know whether it is through design or accident.

Catalina

 

[bronntanas]

Maybe, but this is not a food or kitchen forum. Or Dr Phil's stupid program.

If someone doesn't want to see skinny people that's her/his busines. But I think it would be correct to keep these "ideas" somewhere else.

Ahh, I get it now. This is another one of those "read my mind and tell me exactly what I/we want to hear instead honest feedback" threads....

As an aside, I'm one of those chronicle underweight people (I'm not sure how the heck I ended up diabetic!) but seriously, your wife's size is worrisome. Especially if she's an athlete. Most athletes are slightly heavier than they look, because lean muscle mass weighs more than than fat.

And no, I wouldn't make random comments on someone's size if they were heavy, and hadn't asked for feedback.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

Hmmm, sorry, I looked and all that keeps rattling in my brain is 'Give the woman a few good feeds, please!!' This is not meant as humiliating or derogatory, but the woman is a walking skeleton and it would seriously worry me if she were mine.

Catalina

i looked as well, Catalina, when this thread first popped up, and my thoughts were exactly as yours,and i almost posted in the thread to feed her...but thought better of it, i didn't want to start any trouble, but she defiantly does not look healthy.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

Maybe, but this is not a food or kitchen forum. Or Dr Phil's stupid program.

If someone doesn't want to see skinny people that's her/his busines. But I think it would be correct to keep these "ideas" somewhere else.

it's not about seeing 'skinny' people, i'm sorry, but the woman in those pictures looks anorexic. i don't think any of the comments made were made to hurt anyones feelings..just observations, and concern.....