Submissive Ladies

[davro]

Recently I`ve seen a couple of threads from ladies who "think they might be submissive".Rather than words of encouragement from those who should be welcoming others into the fold they`ve been met with a barrage of "rules and regulations" and/or "the usual suspects" who think "on your knees bitch" is a welcome introduction.Anyone who wants to discuss their feelings,ideas or thoughts who`s thinking submission is something they`d like to explore please contact me.What you`ll get is honest opinions,the benefit of my experiences e.t.c. Maybe we`ll click and there will be some kind of inter-action,would be great but a bonus and not the point of this post.What I`m trying to do is to have mature dialogue with interested parties to either encourage or realise it`s not really for them.Just fed up basically with seeing those who summon up the courage to post on here getting deluged with crap by wannabes and/or lifestyle fanatics.If you want to discuss your thoughts/feelings with someone totally non-judgemental and with a functioning brain please pm me.I`d prefer to converse via e-mail rather than pm so please if you do want to talk give me a valid e-mail address,you can get an anonymous one via Hotmail or Yahoo in 5 minutes rather than use your main one.Seems to me there`s a definate lack of "non scene" un-biased opinion about,serious,thought out responses will the get answers in kind a.s.a.p. Guys,you`re welcome to write as well if you`ve got any kind of problem with what`s in your thoughts but I`d not want to take it any further than advice/correspondence in your case,sorry,just wouldn`t work for me but if you want to discuss your feelings that`s no problem at all.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Put the flags out, we got a live one!

Hi davro, have replied both to your post on my thread and also your pm. Thankyou for what you wrote.

Thought you deserved a bump for your trouble.

Ladies, this guy is a joy to converse with, truly open-minded and genuinely compassionate without pulling any punches at all - so rare.

*swoon*

Velvet

 

[sweetandkinky]

Recently I`ve seen a couple of threads from ladies who "think they might be submissive".Rather than words of encouragement from those who should be welcoming others into the fold they`ve been met with a barrage of "rules and regulations" and/or "the usual suspects" who think "on your knees bitch" is a welcome introduction.Anyone who wants to discuss their feelings,ideas or thoughts who`s thinking submission is something they`d like to explore please contact me.What you`ll get is honest opinions,the benefit of my experiences e.t.c. Maybe we`ll click and there will be some kind of inter-action,would be great but a bonus and not the point of this post.What I`m trying to do is to have mature dialogue with interested parties to either encourage or realise it`s not really for them.Just fed up basically with seeing those who summon up the courage to post on here getting deluged with crap by wannabes and/or lifestyle fanatics.If you want to discuss your thoughts/feelings with someone totally non-judgemental and with a functioning brain please pm me.I`d prefer to converse via e-mail rather than pm so please if you do want to talk give me a valid e-mail address,you can get an anonymous one via Hotmail or Yahoo in 5 minutes rather than use your main one.Seems to me there`s a definate lack of "non scene" un-biased opinion about,serious,thought out responses will the get answers in kind a.s.a.p. Guys,you`re welcome to write as well if you`ve got any kind of problem with what`s in your thoughts but I`d not want to take it any further than advice/correspondence in your case,sorry,just wouldn`t work for me but if you want to discuss your feelings that`s no problem at all.

Hi Yeah I have seen those posts too - and as a woman who is happy in my submissive sexual nature, it just makes me cringe. So good for you, I like your attitude and hope that you have lots of mutually beneficial encounters with lovely curious women.

 

[debbiev]

I disagree

sometimes just "inter-action", "clicking with them" or "discussing things" is not what ladies want (and sometimes we do). so without sounding like a slut....sometimes i want crazy, hot, tie me up, sloppy, raw sex. my point is that just because you want something one way doesn't give you a pass to knock what someone else likes.

Davro, I noticed in a thread where you criticized another dom for what he wanted. Yes, you may have been correct (according to you) but that doesn't give you the right to diss someones thread.

i believe the others who responded on this thread did the same. remember people, to each his or her own. so if some doms like "get on your knees bitch" and some subs like "oh yes master" than cool. don't be so fast to hate people. maybe listen sometimes and you will learn to be more accepting.

 

[davro]

Debbie,I`m fully aware that we`re all different,in fact that was one of my points.I dont think I was knocking anybody`s wants,merely saying that piling into people who say they`re "interested" is often the best way to put them off,a bit like if you say Hi to a guy in the street to be polite,smile and he comes back with "I want to fuck your brains out".I dont know many women who`d be impressed.
Some Doms do like "on your knees bitch" as you rightly say,some subs get off on it as well,probably most with the right partner BUT the ladies I`m referring to have stated they`re "curious" and by implication inexperienced,what they`re looking for is re-assurance,understanding and patience while they decide whether or not BDSM is for them.It`s a bit like throwing someone who`d like to learn to swim into the deep end because that`s where you enjoy swimming,they`re un-likely to want to go near the pool again are they?
As for criticism,surely that`s what a public forum is for,a culteral difference perhaps,in the U.K. "robust debate" isn`t seen as a personal attack.I dont hate anyone and am more accepting than most.I certainly wouldn`t "hate" anyone on an internet site,disagree with them,take a dis-like to them as a result of something they`ve said perhaps but not hate,that`s a very strong word.I`ll argue,dis-agree or ignore...but never hate,hurt my family and I`ll hate you ,merely say something I disagree with and if I find your words offensive I`ll ignore you,more likely find your views interesting and something to think about,as I do yours.

 

[debbiev]

you call that a disagreement?

after reading your email....i checked your posts and found that below are the exact words you used to refer to the dom that you disagreed with.

"useyou,does Mummy know you`re using the computer again?
"He`s not a Dom,he`s just a very naughty boy" Twat."

you politely say on this board that you understand people are different. and you understand that and disagree with them. hmm....that sure is a classless way to disagree don't you think. sounds like you are the kind of guy needing to be wanted since after reading the attack on the dom on that board you felt you had plenty of safety in numbers thing going.

so don't post here like you are above "hating" and that you are better and more undrestanding than most. bullshit.

maybe like you said it is a cultural difference huh? if so i don't wanna know your culture.

Debbie,I`m fully aware that we`re all different,in fact that was one of my points.I dont think I was knocking anybody`s wants,merely saying that piling into people who say they`re "interested" is often the best way to put them off,a bit like if you say Hi to a guy in the street to be polite,smile and he comes back with "I want to fuck your brains out".I dont know many women who`d be impressed.
Some Doms do like "on your knees bitch" as you rightly say,some subs get off on it as well,probably most with the right partner BUT the ladies I`m referring to have stated they`re "curious" and by implication inexperienced,what they`re looking for is re-assurance,understanding and patience while they decide whether or not BDSM is for them.It`s a bit like throwing someone who`d like to learn to swim into the deep end because that`s where you enjoy swimming,they`re un-likely to want to go near the pool again are they?
As for criticism,surely that`s what a public forum is for,a culteral difference perhaps,in the U.K. "robust debate" isn`t seen as a personal attack.I dont hate anyone and am more accepting than most.I certainly wouldn`t "hate" anyone on an internet site,disagree with them,take a dis-like to them as a result of something they`ve said perhaps but not hate,that`s a very strong word.I`ll argue,dis-agree or ignore...but never hate,hurt my family and I`ll hate you ,merely say something I disagree with and if I find your words offensive I`ll ignore you,more likely find your views interesting and something to think about,as I do yours.

 

[davro]

Well there`s different and there`s different,if someone`s being abusive then they should expect the same in return.
Thanks for the analysis Debbie,very kind of you to share your proffessional knowledge,but I dont understand where you get the "hate" thing from.I`m not about to get emotional with anyone on a public message board in any way.
As for "I don`t wanna know your culture",well it looks like a language difference as well.
Dont we all want to feel wanted? Luckily for me I am,by people that matter to me so sorry but you`re a long way short on that one.I dont hate anyone,on or off of this web-site,if that ever changes it`ll be for a very good reason.
And I`ll post what I want to post thanks,if that`s alright with you.If you`ve got some kind of beef then please feel free to pm me and we`ll sort it out.

 

[debbiev]

whatever

all i know is that your name calling to him was not right...as was your better than he is attitude. i'm not going to continue to analyze it, it's not worth my time.

different personalities and opinions make the world go round. but that doesn't mean i have to associate with those whos personalities and opinions i do not like. so whatever...you do your thing and i'll do mine. just stay away.

 

[davro]

i'm not going to continue to analyze it, it's not worth my time.

Plus you`re not very good at it,and who asked you to in the first place? A bit too much analyzing goes on here already.
As for staying away,who was it that butted into a thread with something irrelavent?I dont know,or care,who you are or what you`re problem is but I`m sorry you`ve nothing better to do with your time.If you have got a problem I`ve offered to take it up with you personally,I can see why you wont do that, just a bit confused as to what your problem is in the first place and a bit bemused as to why you`re wasting your time.
You`re not the other guy`s Mum by any chance?

 

[debbiev]

on the contrary

oh i am very good at analyzing people....especially easy to read surface people like you. let's see....shallow, shallow and more shallow....that about sums you up. gee that was easy.

funny how you wanted to take this private with me.....have i embarassed you? do you feel like maybe you shouldn't have called people names like you did...names like twat. oh and now you are starting to call me names. interesting....but let me enlighten you to the fact that people that resort to name calling are at a lost for words. it's an admittance that they have lost the discussion or agruement. so i imagine i should pat myself on my back.

hell....you were easy to beat....no challenge at all. attempting to play the "culture" card. now that was just laughable. then attempting to tell me how you don't hate. what a saint...i'm sure you are going directly to heaven...remember to pass go and collect $200 first.

now..fire away again...after all you need to show me you are all man...guys like you with little dicks always try to prove something...they sure can't do it in bed.

ready aim fire.....surely you can beat a woman mr man. c'mon....think...you can come up with something. how about calling me a double twat. that would really hurt. sniff sniff. it might damage me for life.

or...maybe...just maybe you will be man enough to walk away. although i doubt it. little guys rarely do.

 

[davro]

I invited you to tell me what your problem was in private to avoid making yourself look stupid in public,offer still applies,if a bit belatedly.I`ve got no intentions of carrying on any kind of public argument with someone who`s got nothing of substance to say.If all you can do is act like a child then feel free,I`m done with this.If you`ve got some kind of problem that you can articulate properly then I`ll gladly sort it out with you.Have a nice day.

 

[sweetandkinky]

oh i am very good at analyzing people....especially easy to read surface people like you. let's see....shallow, shallow and more shallow....that about sums you up. gee that was easy.

funny how you wanted to take this private with me.....have i embarassed you? do you feel like maybe you shouldn't have called people names like you did...names like twat. oh and now you are starting to call me names. interesting....but let me enlighten you to the fact that people that resort to name calling are at a lost for words. it's an admittance that they have lost the discussion or agruement. so i imagine i should pat myself on my back.

hell....you were easy to beat....no challenge at all. attempting to play the "culture" card. now that was just laughable. then attempting to tell me how you don't hate. what a saint...i'm sure you are going directly to heaven...remember to pass go and collect $200 first.

now..fire away again...after all you need to show me you are all man...guys like you with little dicks always try to prove something...they sure can't do it in bed.

ready aim fire.....surely you can beat a woman mr man. c'mon....think...you can come up with something. how about calling me a double twat. that would really hurt. sniff sniff. it might damage me for life.

or...maybe...just maybe you will be man enough to walk away. although i doubt it. little guys rarely do.

Do you have mental health problems? - You are rambling madly.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Think you're in danger of acquiring a psycho stalker honey.

What on Earth did you do?

Velvet

 

[davro]

Think you're in danger of acquiring a psycho stalker honey.

What on Earth did you do?

Velvet

Dont know Velvet but it`s stale already

 

[sweetandkinky]

Think you're in danger of acquiring a psycho stalker honey.

What on Earth did you do?

Velvet

You might be right there Do you think I should hide in a cupboard or something? Hope you are well

 

[sweetandkinky]

You might be right there Do you think I should hide in a cupboard or something? Hope you are well

Ahh yes you meant him - well yes that is really scary. How bizarre!

 

[lord_bob]

poor man, being ferociously attacked by a rambling idiot, it must feel a bit like being flogged to death by scented bootlaces

and amazing how she managed to have a complete conversation without any input from davro

 

[cashmerekitten]

thank you very much for this post

I am new here and "Curious" So I will say thank you for this post. I was begining to think that perhaps this is not the thing for me. I have always felt submissive, and have wanted to explore. I am gratefull that there are Dom's out there who may be considerate of the fact that somw may be frightened or unsure.

 

[nytemist]

I'm in the same boat as cashmerekitten, only I'm a curious male sub trying to work up the nerve to start exploring. Which is awkward because in addition to not really being sure about things and about whether it really is or isn't for me, it also seems like male subs aren't taken seriously at all. I'd like to meet a dominant girl just to talk to about it and ease me into things and help me figure out what is and isn't me, and hopefully become friends besides...basically what Davro said, "mature dialogue with interested parties to either encourage or realise it's not really for them." But between some of the sarcastic replies people get to their ads and the way male subs don't seem to get taken very seriously, it's kind of intimidating. So it was cool reading this thread.