Story Sent back

[Android_Kain]

Hi, sorry I am posting a first time story and I have just had my story sent back because "You used word spell check/AI to help you with Grammar", sorry is this some sort of joke? are you saying I can't upload a story unless it has spelling mistakes?

 

[TheWritingGroup]

No, but mistakes might get it past the automated check for AI-written stories. The management says very little, but most of the authors who participate in this forum believe that there is some sort of automated test for Large Language Model-written text and automatic rejection if it's detected.

Don't use Grammarly or anything else to rewrite or create your work. Write it yourself.

--Annie

 

[BlueZen]

Hi, sorry I am posting a first time story and I have just had my story sent back because "You used word spell check/AI to help you with Grammar", sorry is this some sort of joke? are you saying I can't upload a story unless it has spelling mistakes?

Write your story, give it a really good proof read, and then reach out to a volunteer editor for some help with a final edit. Don't use any editing software other than the basic stuff on Word or Google Docs. That should help. Good luck.

 

[Mezu]

I have the same issue. Two days ago, one of my edits was rejected for this reason after it had been sitting in pending for a month and a half (for comparison, that's slow even for an edit).

It wasn't a new story. It was an edit of a story that Laurel (or whoever checks this stuff) already accepted and published last year. I didn't add anything new to it, just fixed some spelling errors that I noticed recently.

 

[Kat90xx]

After basic spellchecking, I listen to it using translate to pick up other errors and clunky phrasing. Works for me

 

[Sablesin]

No, but mistakes might get it past the automated check for AI-written stories. The management says very little, but most of the authors who participate in this forum believe that there is some sort of automated test for Large Language Model-written text and automatic rejection if it's detected.

Don't use Grammarly or anything else to rewrite or create your work. Write it yourself.

--Annie

I'm must say I am very confused by this view. Since when did spellcheck become AI? And even if any form of software has been used, does that invalidate its authentic or originality? I have written and published both professional papers and works of fiction that have been both spell/grammar checked by software and peer reviewed by humans. Does that mean i haven't written it myself and therefore it shouldn't be published?

And one other quick thing. If they are using automated software to determine if AI has been used, isn't that epitome of hypocrisy?

 

[EmilyMiller]

I'm must say I am very confused by this view. Since when did spellcheck become AI?

It’s not. But spelling and grammar checkers like Grammarly now employ LLMs. If you simply use the spelling function you should be fine. If you take issues it flags with grammar and enact your own fix, you should be fine. If you adopt alternative phrasing that it suggests, this might get picked up.

And even if any form of software has been used, does that invalidate its authentic or originality?

The site rules are no AI assistance whatsoever. Whether this is a moral stance or protecting themselves again future copyright suits is unknown.

I have written and published both professional papers and works of fiction that have been both spell/grammar checked by software and peer reviewed by humans. Does that mean i haven't written it myself and therefore it shouldn't be published?

Not sure in what way that is relevant. See above.

And one other quick thing. If they are using automated software to determine if AI has been used, isn't that epitome of hypocrisy?

AI checkers are frankly crap, but they don’t use LLMs. Then do statistical analyses of the text. So no hypocrisy.

It helps to note that it’s LLMs which are the issue, aka GenAI, not software in general.

 

[RejectReality]

I'm must say I am very confused by this view. Since when did spellcheck become AI? And even if any form of software has been used, does that invalidate its authentic or originality? I have written and published both professional papers and works of fiction that have been both spell/grammar checked by software and peer reviewed by humans. Does that mean i haven't written it myself and therefore it shouldn't be published?

And one other quick thing. If they are using automated software to determine if AI has been used, isn't that epitome of hypocrisy?

That was a basic ( and incorrect ) distillation of what the rejection actually says. It mentions certain programs specifically because they're the major culprit that people might not know are injecting AI suggestions into their work.

If you're only correcting spelling and grammar, you're not going to run into much of an issue. If you're accepting any of the suggestions for something such as run-on sentences, clunky phrasing, and so on, you may be setting yourself up to run afoul of getting flagged for AI.

You can use the programs, but when they flag something and offer a suggestion, don't use it. Reword it in your own way. Unless you've specifically disabled AI suggestions ( and maybe not even then ) it's using AI to generate those suggestions.

If all you've done is corrected basic spelling and grammar, and you get popped for AI, you're basically screwed. There's no way of knowing what the hallucinating clanker thinks is AI, so any changes you make are just throwing shit at a wall hoping something will stick. I have no doubt whatsoever that the detection method they're using is returning a large number of false positives.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

If all you've done is corrected basic spelling and grammar, and you get popped for AI, you're basically screwed. There's no way of knowing what the hallucinating clanker thinks is AI, so any changes you make are just throwing shit at a wall hoping something will stick. I have no doubt whatsoever that the detection method they're using is returning a large number of false positives.

There's no reason to even think there are a large number of AI rejections. We know that there are some false positives, and not much else.

--Annie

 

[Writer61]

Hi, sorry I am posting a first time story and I have just had my story sent back because "You used word spell check/AI to help you with Grammar", sorry is this some sort of joke? are you saying I can't upload a story unless it has spelling mistakes?

Have you been able to post it again?

 

[Britva415]

If they are using automated software to determine if AI has been used, isn't that epitome of hypocrisy?

Is it?

"Automated software" has been around for many decades. Generative AI has not.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Is it?

"Automated software" has been around for many decades. Generative AI has not.

People get kinda confused. I get it. It’s an emotional area, but AI seems to be used to describe basically anything nowadays. It’s all marketing BS.

 

[RejectReality]

There's no reason to even think there are a large number of AI rejections. We know that there are some false positives, and not much else.

--Annie

Considering the number of them that are complained about here, how many people will ever bother visiting the forum, and the ratio of AI rejection complaints vs. others compared to 20 years worth of context, it is absolutely reasonable to assume that there are a large number of AI rejections.

And I don't care what they're using to "detect" them, it's going to generate a butt-ton of false positives. The number of people who have unconsciously had their word choice influenced by the overload of AI slop in every news article, social media post, and you tube video for the last few years alone is going to result in that. They can not edit it at all and get popped for what's mucking their brain. That's a false positive if they didn't use AI software, even if their word choice is being influenced by AI that's in everything they read or hear nowadays.

Before the inevitable "get gud then", they're never even going to have the faintest clue what they're doing wrong if they can never get their work out into the wild where someone can bloody point it out to them. Good luck finding an editor or even a first reader to do that absent publication of something a person can look at to reasonably determine if it's going to be a hellscape that will suck up their time and will to live.

I get that the queue is being overloaded with AI slop, and they have to filter at least some of it out for the sake of sanity and working through the queue, but the level of scrutiny over it is stunting new authors, sending them elsewhere, or flat out causing them to give up because they'll never have the opportunity to put their mistakes in front of an audience and learn from it like we all did.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Hi, sorry I am posting a first time story and I have just had my story sent back because "You used word spell check/AI to help you with Grammar", sorry is this some sort of joke? are you saying I can't upload a story unless it has spelling mistakes?

Is that what the rejection message actually said? More usually, people get this message, which does not say the same thing:

Are you using Grammarly, ProWritingAid, Quillbot or similar software, or allowing Microsoft Word grammar check to change your words? Many modern writing packages incorporate AI. Literotica is a storytelling community centered on the sharing of human fantasies. While we do not have a policy against using tools to help with the writing process (i.e. sp, grammar check, etc.), we do ask that all work published on Literotica be created primarily by a human. If you are using a grammar check program to review your work so that you can make changes (as a spellcheck, to flag punctuation, review grammar, and/or occasionally as a thesaurus), that should be fine. If you are allowing a grammar check program to “rewrite” your words or rephrase your text, that may cross the line into AI generated text/stories (since substantial parts of the final draft may not be written by you).