Story I wanted to see done years ago...

[juicylucy69]

Please read this archived thread for a better understanding...

note: change the daughter's ages to 18 and 19 respectively.


https://forum.literotica.com/archive/index.php/t-41961.html


If anyone is interersted in writing please reply or send me a pm.

Thanks,

JL69

 

[Fantasies_only]

Before anyone responds, I feel I should explain something.

You know that nobody under 18 rule?
Well I was the one who requested that to Laurel.
The disclaimer was originally "No character on Literotica.com shall be under 17 years old."
I had her add in not only another year, but the wording "in explicit sexual situations."

I didn't look at how old this thread is, but of what I read so far, it is within the rules of the time.
I also want to say "explicit" or "graphic" excludes everything I have been saying about non physical actions, which I call sensual not sexual, so Literotica is actually censoring us, especially in the fiction stories (not based on real people).

 

[Deadwood]

They are not censoring us...they just have rules that must be followed if you want YOUR story uploaded onto THEIR website. Its a compilation of rules that they created feeling its in the best interest for all the members on here.

Personally I write historical fiction pieces all the time, and I have never had an issue with any of their rules. In fact I think they are quite liberal. THE greatest gift we have as American's is the right to free speech, and that is not in any way be oppressed here. If you want to write a story outside the guidelines, there are a host of other story based erotic websites that do allow it, feel free to go there and upload them.

For what it is worth though, one of the very reasons I left one of those websites was because of all the under-age writing that was going on. I actually applaud literotica for looking out for my best interest. I also feel that is the reason this is one of the biggest story based erotic websites on the web.

Please, we have enough battles trying to maintain our free speech rights in this country, try not to use the word censorship to often and out of context.

 

[emap]

Fantasies there is no under age relations in any way sexual on Literotica for one simple reason. If they allowed under age sex and some church group decided to through up a huge hissy fit over it, the government could and probably would come in and censor every teeny tiny thing until there were stories that had all of 50 words left in them and there was no erotic stories left on the internet.

granted a bit over the top but possible for the government to do, besides i would really rather not have the government coming in and censoring us, or spilling the beans on every single person who so much as looks at Literotica, coming to our homes to 'inspect' our computers, look at our personal lives take away and keep anything they want to so on so forth.

We are not censored, they allow what they want to allow and is safe to allow, everything else they won't accept, they do not change the wording or anything they accept and post as is or refuse. If we were being censored, the story we submit would end up beig a completely different story, that is being censored, being refused because someone sounds to young is being refused with a reason.

I suggest you look in a dictionary before you start screaming about something happening that is very not happening.

Juicy what happened to the two people who said they were going to work on the story for you?

On a side note, I have the germ of a similar tale growing, comes from finding a rather interesting little Japanese 'dating game.' In it your a guy who drinks a potion and wakes up a woman. It's all simple pictures and alot of words, though I enjoyed it, still am really haven't tried every option yet.

If you would like to try it it's called Ying-Yang-X-Change Alternative, there are actually three of them, two sequals and they can be found in English.

Eventually I will get around to writing the story, not anytime soon of course and I still have to determine if I will do it up to be posted in Chyoo or just run it up to be posted on Literotica.

 

[Fantasies_only]

Fantasies there is no under age relations in any way sexual on Literotica for one simple reason. If they allowed under age sex and some church group decided to through up a huge hissy fit over it, the government could and probably would come in and censor every teeny tiny thing until there were stories that had all of 50 words left in them and there was no erotic stories left on the internet.

emap, don't you get it?!
I don't want underage sex in stories or pictures, otherwise I would be at any one of those lolita sites Laurel suggested when I first came to this site.

As for their site, their rules, the two points are is this really a private site, and is ownership the same as private.

No on both counts.
A child's park can be owned by someone and still be public.
I've even proven this site is public.

Anything where you can use your senses at close range is public.
If I had a garage sale, that actually was in my garage, I opened the door, and told people to come in, the garage would be public.
If I had the sale on the yard, and the garage was closed, the garage would be private.
In both cases, I own the garage, so ownership is not the same as private.

What about a public zoo that's owned by a third party?

Anyway, their own rules imply what's not allowed, must be graphic content, and everything that I mentioned (brief masturbation scenes included) is not graphic.

FYI, I wouldn't be after child sex anyway, because they would shut Literotica down.

Does Laurel have kids?
How do you think they would grow up if every little move until they were 18 was censored?
I mean, even an erection would be scandalous in her house!
I know there are anti-erection pills, but that's taking it too far!

 

[emap]

Fantasies i am sorry I can't try and explain the most obvious things to you anymore. Your an idiot plain and simple, go away and bring the intelligence value up 120 points.

Masturbation is SEXUAL, hearing sex is SEXUAL, seeing sex is SEXUAL, anything with a child beyond put them to bed, thoughts of how the street was alive with kids just an hour ago then sex is NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE IT IS SEXUAL.

Welcome to ignore you moron.

 

[Fantasies_only]

Fantasies i am sorry I can't try and explain the most obvious things to you anymore. Your an idiot plain and simple, go away and bring the intelligence value up 120 points.

Masturbation is SEXUAL, hearing sex is SEXUAL, seeing sex is SEXUAL, anything with a child beyond put them to bed, thoughts of how the street was alive with kids just an hour ago then sex is NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE IT IS SEXUAL.

Welcome to ignore you moron.

Please tell me how getting stimulation from friction of something that does not penetrate, nor does it come into contact with anything but it's user is sexual.
I suppose an Indian burn (quick intense rub of hand to wrist) is sexual too.
That's all masturbation is, the manipulation of a sensitive area of one's self.
The only thing that might be considered sexual related to masturbation is semen and/or sperm that goes with it, but the result has nothing to do with the action.

Hearing anything is just hearing, which is not even an action (Cockstoppers 3 - Christina Aguilera raped backstage of children's concert with mike on, critical part of unnecessary chapter).
Even if something is related to sex or sexuality in the slightest, seeing such a thing is not sexual (naked statue of David and painting of Venus, not to mention every nude painting displayed in museums.

It really doesn't matter what you think of me, calling me names and putting me down just to get your point across, just shows your intelligence that you can't do anything else.
Go get some social lessons before you speak or write.
Keep attacking me, and I'll keep defending myself, but I'd much rather get back to the topic of this thread and forum.

Let's just say we agree to disagree.
Please drop this whole thing now.

Mods, before deleting Cockstoppers 3, contact the author, for it might be edited already, but I don't know why it should be.

 

[juicylucy69]

Didn't mean to start a debate...just wanted to see if anyone was interested in my story.

Anyways, to reply to another poster, people were interested before but never stuck to the story. So I'm looking to see someone do this now for me. Thanks.

 

[emap]

Oh no not your fault, seems to follow fantasies around. Won't go into the why's of that, covered it already. Really I am sorry to have done that in your thread.

Anyway, as I said I will do up a similar one of these years, maybe decades.

In the meantime I do hope someone picks this up for you as it does make for a very interesting story.

 

[fcdc]

Anyway, their own rules imply what's not allowed, must be graphic content, and everything that I mentioned (brief masturbation scenes included) is not graphic.

FYI, I wouldn't be after child sex anyway, because they would shut Literotica down.

Does Laurel have kids?
How do you think they would grow up if every little move until they were 18 was censored?
I mean, even an erection would be scandalous in her house!
I know there are anti-erection pills, but that's taking it too far!

http://xs115.xs.to/xs115/07203/desstardrink.jpg

Lucy, regarding your idea: If said forcible transgender is now attracted to guys (and unless she did brain surgery to change his sexual orientation, he wouldn't be, as that's not tied to genitalia), then why does the mom need to force him into anything? Furthermore, how does the first part, with him exploiting her daughters, tie into the second part? I mean, yes, he's being exploited himself, but I don't see the connection between him doing the daughters and then the gender reassignment.

Just some thoughts I had about the idea.

 

[emap]

The first part I think I can answer. He does not start out attracted to men, for that he has to be 'forced' into sexual encounters with men and eventually come to love the sex, though most likely still not be terribly attracted to men.

I can see alot of internal anguish over that, being repulsed by hard cocks and yet craving them being pushed inside. Men being rather physical in thinking, basically if it feels good they will do it as soon as they get past the it's disgusting or it's not right thought.

 

[Deadwood]

Please tell me how getting stimulation from friction of something that does not penetrate, nor does it come into contact with anything but it's user is sexual.
I suppose an Indian burn (quick intense rub of hand to wrist) is sexual too.
That's all masturbation is, the manipulation of a sensitive area of one's self.
The only thing that might be considered sexual related to masturbation is semen and/or sperm that goes with it, but the result has nothing to do with the action.

That is the most lame argument I have ever seen typed into words. Please, and I am trying to be nice here, re-read what you have written and go back and edit your post, I think if you re-read it, you can see that it has no merit whatsoever.

 

[Athena_e19]

And considering that the over 18 rule has been in effect as long as I have been here, I don't see how someone who joined in August 2006 and only recently appeared as a hideous troll on this board could claim responsibility for it.

 

[snooper]

... He does not start out attracted to men, for that he has to be 'forced' into sexual encounters with men and eventually come to love the sex, though most likely still not be terribly attracted to men. ...

That makes sense. It is a similar effect to the Stockholm syndrome where a captive starts out hating her/his captors but ends up loving them because they are the only available source of food and attention.

 

[emap]

Bad snoopy bad, bringing logic to an erotic story idea thread.

 

[snooper]

Bad snoopy bad, bringing logic to an erotic story idea thread.

So sue me!

 

[emap]

Hmmmm let's see, I will have to find a lawyer who can sue you in England, or go to England and find a lawyer. I will then have to have alot of sex with said lawyer to convince him that I am suing you for a good reason, then of course track down the judge and screw him a whole bunch more times to get the suit brought before him and go to trial. Oh that's right you use multiple judges over there and no jury so I would have to find at least two of the judges.

Hmmmmmm, though what would I want out of you after all that sex just to win. Oh heck I wouldn't care, besides your old and waiting for Viagra to kick in sounds boring.

Oh my, we thread hijacked with a different story idea. Is that my bad or yours?

 

[Fantasies_only]

And considering that the over 18 rule has been in effect as long as I have been here, I don't see how someone who joined in August 2006 and only recently appeared as a hideous troll on this board could claim responsibility for it.

I said it was originally noone under 17, but what it actually said was must be over 18.
My bad.
I requested a change in that constistent with current laws.
Since must be over 18 implies an 18 year old isn't allowed here, I had Laurel change it to noone under 18 in sexually explicite situations is allowed.

The 17 year old girl having sex did break the old rules.
Since the definition of "explicite" has changed over the years, the 16 year old voyeur did not break the rules of the time.

It was also noted, legally kiddie porn in text can be called free speech if the characters are not based on real children.
This is not just my opinion.
Talk to lawers and judges.

Here's an interesting article:
I think saying that I'm a pedophile or pedo applies.

 

[cloudy]

I said it was originally noone under 17, but what it actually said was must be over 18.
My bad.
I requested a change in that constistent with current laws.
Since must be over 18 implies an 18 year old isn't allowed here, I had Laurel change it to noone under 18 in sexually explicite situations is allowed.

The 17 year old girl having sex did break the old rules.
Since the definition of "explicite" has changed over the years, the 16 year old voyeur did not break the rules of the time.

It was also noted, legally kiddie porn in text can be called free speech if the characters are not based on real children.
This is not just my opinion.
Talk to lawers and judges.

Here's an interesting article:
I think saying that I'm a pedophile or pedo applies.

 

[snooper]

... Oh that's right you use multiple judges over there and no jury ...

The bad/good news is that malfeasance is tried before a single judge with no jury in our civil courts. The other bad/good is that our judges are appointed from the ranks of experienced lawyers, and for life, as opposed to the US habit of electing political nominees.

... Oh my, we thread hijacked with a different story idea. Is that my bad or yours?

Since everyone else comes here to look for ideas it is their good fortune.

 

[RonClarkeson]

Fantasies there is no under age relations in any way sexual on Literotica for one simple reason. If they allowed under age sex and some church group decided to through up a huge hissy fit over it, the government could and probably would come in and censor every teeny tiny thing until there were stories that had all of 50 words left in them and there was no erotic stories left on the internet.

granted a bit over the top but possible for the government to do, besides i would really rather not have the government coming in and censoring us, or spilling the beans on every single person who so much as looks at Literotica, coming to our homes to 'inspect' our computers, look at our personal lives take away and keep anything they want to so on so forth.

We are not censored, they allow what they want to allow and is safe to allow, everything else they won't accept, they do not change the wording or anything they accept and post as is or refuse. If we were being censored, the story we submit would end up beig a completely different story, that is being censored, being refused because someone sounds to young is being refused with a reason.

I suggest you look in a dictionary before you start screaming about something happening that is very not happening.

Juicy what happened to the two people who said they were going to work on the story for you?

On a side note, I have the germ of a similar tale growing, comes from finding a rather interesting little Japanese 'dating game.' In it your a guy who drinks a potion and wakes up a woman. It's all simple pictures and alot of words, though I enjoyed it, still am really haven't tried every option yet.

If you would like to try it it's called Ying-Yang-X-Change Alternative, there are actually three of them, two sequals and they can be found in English.

Eventually I will get around to writing the story, not anytime soon of course and I still have to determine if I will do it up to be posted in Chyoo or just run it up to be posted on Literotica.

Trouble is the rules get too harshly defined. I wrote a story where an almost 18 year old was involved. Not sexually, not as a participant, but the story got knocked back, but the fact that she was not yet 18 was important to the story line. It did not work as a 19 year old!. 40 yes 40 chapters of a novel that Literotice will not get to read.

 

[Fantasies_only]

Trouble is the rules get too harshly defined. I wrote a story where an almost 18 year old was involved. Not sexually, not as a participant, but the story got knocked back, but the fact that she was not yet 18 was important to the story line. It did not work as a 19 year old!. 40 yes 40 chapters of a novel that Literotice will not get to read.

This is similar to what happened to me in my previous SRP.
I ended up having to write it on another site which isn't as active as this one, and nobody wanted to play, thinking the idea was I was writing it for them to read.

 

[snooper]

An interesting take on the over-18 ruleis the following excerpt from a story recemtly posted on here First of Many.

Maman told me that, while many girls were no more than thirteen years old when they began as prostitutes she would not let me decide on my future until I reached eighteen. In the mean time I learned as much as I could about the art of the seductress so than when I was ready, if I decided to go down that path, I would be able to command as high a price as Maman. Grandemaman let me use a peephole to watch as the couples had sex so that I could learn the different positions and the noises that the girls made to please and flatter their clients.
As I grew older and took on the appearance of a lady, my breasts filled out and my body took on a woman’s shape, many of the men enquired of Maman if I was available, offering to pay more than the normal rate for my services, but Maman told them that I was not available. The more they asked and the more that she refused them the higher the offered price.
On the dawn of my eighteenth birthday Maman sat on the edge of my bed.
“It is time. If you do not wish to be one of us then tell me now, but if you do then we must plan your debut with care.”

(My emphasis.)

Can someone explain to me how the highlighted description of a child learning all she could about sex is not sexual in view of

... hearing sex is SEXUAL, seeing sex is SEXUAL ...

 

[emap]

Just cause your a big old stick in the mud who happens to edit for me I will answer that.

That is not sexual offensively because there is no description. I put it simply for fantasies because has to be. The reason stories with people under 18 is refused is because the under 18 does something explicitly sexual. Which is what fantasies is talking about doing and saying we are being censored because he cannot get a story where an under 18 touches themselves.

In your example, all that happens is you watch prostitutes have sex to learn how to make the proper noises and learn the positions. Which honestly is a rather silly thing because if you ask a prostitute how to do it chances are pretty good she would tell you, then tell you to find another spot.

So not so simple reason underage stories get refused. If your underage talks about handling themselves, running a hand up and down their hard cock, pushing a finger inside you will get refused. If you talk about learning something, a fantasy of being in someone's arms and nothing else because well virgin and doesn't know anything else you will get accepted.

 

[snooper]

Just cause your you're a big old ...

Sorry, I couldn't resist that!

... That is not sexual offensively because there is no description. ...

But, I repeat, you said exactly what I understood:

... hearing sex is SEXUAL, seeing sex is SEXUAL ...