Stories may be grammatically correct but.....

[prue white]

The more recent 'stories' on Lit are becomming limp. There was once a time that erotic stories were judged by a scale from ' raging hardo' to ' limp noodle. ' In the archive section of ' loving wives' many stories had mastubatory value. As of lately they have become rather mundane , and basicaly blah, without the element of a good dirty tale.

Now I am sure there are those on this forum that will get their shorts all drawn up and get highly insulted and proclaim that Literotica is a place for gramatically correct essays and that grammar is the most important thing. The difference is calling it a cunt and a vagina. Vagina is correct but it does not convey the real essence of ' cunt.'

I attribute this largely to the ones that approve the stories for publication. Never has the wicked pen of censoring been evident. Stories , in order to pass these moderators a writer must please, not the reading public, but a relatively few, who want the word feces used instead of shit. Well if shit is the approiate word than shit it is.

That's my view.

 

[Guest]

The more recent 'stories' on Lit are becomming limp. There was once a time that erotic stories were judged by a scale from ' raging hardo' to ' limp noodle. ' In the archive section of ' loving wives' many stories had mastubatory value. As of lately they have become rather mundane , and basicaly blah, without the element of a good dirty tale.

Now I am sure there are those on this forum that will get their shorts all drawn up and get highly insulted and proclaim that Literotica is a place for gramatically correct essays and that grammar is the most important thing. The difference is calling it a cunt and a vagina. Vagina is correct but it does not convey the real essence of ' cunt.'

I attribute this largely to the ones that approve the stories for publication. Never has the wicked pen of censoring been evident. Stories , in order to pass these moderators a writer must please, not the reading public, but a relatively few, who want the word feces used instead of shit. Well if shit is the approiate word than shit it is.

That's my view.

I disagree, though I confess I generally avoid the Loving Wives category.

But my characters? They fuck.

 

[TxRad]

I avoid the Loving Wives Cat myself.....

As for the the heavy hand of censorship by the people who review the stories for posting.... It's never happened to any story that I've posted and I've never heard about it from any other author..... What I write is what you get.... this is a free speech site and censorship doesn't happen unless you break the two cardinal rules... no sex before eighteen and no animal sex, unless it's a mythical animal.....

A lot of the better writers don't write for LV unless they have to... to many groups with to widely varying opinions on what is right for the Cat.... Seems like you can't please anybody, any of the time....

 

[oggbashan]

Sex is in the mind of the reader

Most of my stories are mild by comparison with many on this site.

I try to be grammatically correct.

I don't think that grammar is the be-all and end-all of an erotic story. I don't think that the use of forceful words such as fuck and cunt need necessarily require that grammar rules should be abandoned.

What turns some readers on will leave other readers cold. Why not? We are human and are different. Some readers find some of my work intensely erotic. Some find my stories boring and far too mild, and some think that there is no sex at all in them.

If the basic rules about age, animals and snuff are met, poor grammar and spelling can be reasons for rejection. Unless the grammar rules are broken deliberately for effect, a story is likely to more accessible if it fits with most people's concept of written English. That does not mean that strong language is barred or even the dreaded cliche 'I'MMMMMMMMMM CCUUUMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!! is possible if you really have to include it.

See the works of DurtGurl to see how badly written stories can be great - if done purposefully.

Og

 

[kbate]

Prue White?

Half of the site name, Literotica, is derived from the word literature. Proper grammar is required of any writing striving to be worthy of the title, literature.

If you desire semi-literate stroke stories, write them yourself. I'll stick to reading those stories which read as if the writer cares about his technique, as much as about content.

No story has ever been rejected for using strong language.

 

[cloudy]

Prue White?

Half of the site name, Literotica, is derived from the word literature. Proper grammar is required of any writing striving to be worthy of the title, literature.

If you desire semi-literate stroke stories, write them yourself. I'll stick to reading those stories which read as if the writer cares about his technique, as much as about content.

No story has ever been rejected for using strong language.

Can I love you now?

 

[Guest]

Prue White?

Half of the site name, Literotica, is derived from the word literature. Proper grammar is required of any writing striving to be worthy of the title, literature.

If you desire semi-literate stroke stories, write them yourself. I'll stick to reading those stories which read as if the writer cares about his technique, as much as about content.

No story has ever been rejected for using strong language.

Succint, to the point, and quite blatantly accurate. Kbate, I think I may have to join up with your fan club.

 

[BlackShanglan]

I think that Prue White may be confusing grammar with word choice. The examples listed - shit/feces and cunt/vagina - are questions of word choice, not the grammatical construction of sentences. The chief goal of grammatical editing is to help the author communicate ideas clearly and avoid confusing or annoying the reader through problematic punctuation or sentence structure. It is an attempt to help the author as well as the reader; it is not an attempt to change the tone of a piece from gritty to prim. If an editor is suggesting the types of word changes Prue lists, then that editor is not working on grammar.

Shanglan

 

[AsylumSeeker]

Fuck My Cunt (if I Had One)

I am PISSED, not that my emotional state matters to anyone out there. I just had my Ripples 3 sniped. I still wonder why I invest my time and effort to continue writing. Especiially after I had such an attractive offfer to sign the rights of my stories to some unknown Canadian entity so they could profit by them at no cost to them.

Okay, sorry, I'm venting.

Prue, are you intentionally stirring the pot? Or are you lamenting that Lit standards have weeded out third-grade "cock-cunt" essays?

GROW A PAIR!

No, on second thought, don't. Then you'd be a danger to society. Are you feeling pissed? Log on and vote zeros for my subs, everybody else does.

And FUCK YOU on the way out!

Gee, am I hostile tonight??

<-- self destructing and don't care

 

[Guest]

I am PISSED, not that my emotional state matters to anyone out there. I just had my Ripples 3 sniped. I still wonder why I invest my time and effort to continue writing. Especiially after I had such an attractive offfer to sign the rights of my stories to some unknown Canadian entity so they could profit by them at no cost to them.

Okay, sorry, I'm venting.

Prue, are you intentionally stirring the pot? Or are you lamenting that Lit standards have weeded out third-grade "cock-cunt" essays?

GROW A PAIR!

No, on second thought, don't. Then you'd be a danger to society. Are you feeling pissed? Log on and vote zeros for my subs, everybody else does.

And FUCK YOU on the way out!

Gee, am I hostile tonight??

<-- self destructing and don't care

Vent away, hon. That's what Lit friends are for.

(As for Prue? I'm not too certain he can spell "cock-cunt" essays.)

 

[AsylumSeeker]

Ss

I feel bad in a way. Obviously anyone that out of contact with society is mentally incapable of normal interaction.

Oops..

I hear the sucking sound of my ratings dwindling.

I really don't care any more. Ratings were important to me at a time, but now I think I'm going to try and piss off people and hope for the lowest, Maybe that's a goal I can actually achieve.

 

[LadyCibelle]

Succint, to the point, and quite blatantly accurate. Kbate, I think I may have to join up with your fan club.

Add me to her fan club too.

 

[York]

The difference is calling it a cunt and a vagina. Vagina is correct but it does not convey the real essence of ' cunt.'

I don't mind the word cunt in terms of describing a tosser of a person (and do use the word myself when describing someone I want people to know I have utter disdain for), but as a word to to arouse it just doesn't work for me. It's simply a turn-off word.

Vagina is just too biological a word to work as well though!

As far as ggod grammar is concerned, it makes the story more readable and therefore more likely to be erotic. That's not to say a story's automatically erotic if it's well written, but I'm distracted by bad grammar and bad writing, to the extent it will spoil the story.

 

[AsylumSeeker]

A sorry vagina

This is going to be an odd post.

I was rude to Prue in my mind and was hesitant to log back on to Lit thinking there would be hell to pay. Apparently the only controversy is in my mind. I will still publicly extend my apologies to Prue for my behavior yesterday. I was upset and vented in a manner that I have since determined was both out of character and detrimental.

My apologies, Prue. My comments were disrespectful. You have just as much right to voice your opinion as anyone else.

kbate reminded me that I should be grateful for the votes I have received. And I think she's right. I need to thank those who have taken the time to read and honestly rate my strories. And for that I extend my heartfelt thanks.

As for medical descriptions, I agree. I use "vagina" infrequently and like to use "core", "center", "pussy", "love chamber", "love tunnel", etc.

 

[Guest]

As for medical descriptions, I agree. I use "vagina" infrequently and like to use "core", "center", "pussy", "love chamber", "love tunnel", etc.

Gaping maw?

 

[kbate]

Gaping maw?

For that, your next gets an automatic 3 from me. :emote:

 

[Guest]

For that, your next gets an automatic 3 from me. :emote:

Ouch, baby.

Hey - I didn't say I used it!

So I suppose using "heat-seeking moisture missile" for cock is out as well?

 

[kbate]

"heat-seeking moisture missile"

Um, Yeah. I'll give you automatic 5's for life if you simply forget that phrase ever existed.

 

[Guest]

Um, Yeah. I'll give you automatic 5's for life if you simply forget that phrase ever existed.

Wow, you're tough.

 

[kbate]

Wow, you're tough.

... and no more using "ample" for describing breasts either! :emoticon:

 

[Guest]

Wow, you're tough.

I hope she dissuades you from that...er...term. It's right up there with "man cooter" as Most Awful Euphemism Ever.

 

[Guest]

... and no more using "ample" for describing breasts either! :emoticon:

OK, now THAT's funny.

My characters usually have ample hips, not breasts.

 

[Guest]

I hope she dissuades you from that...er...term. It's right up there with "man cooter" as Most Awful Euphemism Ever.

Just spit out my rum and coke.

Man cooter?

 

[kbate]

OK, now THAT's funny.

My characters usually have ample hips, not breasts.

For shame! How am I to picture a character without: well-rounded hips, ample breasts and pouting lips?

 

[Guest]

For shame! How am I to picture a character without: well-rounded hips, ample breasts and pouting lips?

Don't forget heaving.

HEAVING breastesses.