Stolen Stories pt. 2 (Remember umma?)

[Guest]

Remember about a year and a half ago when "umma" stole more than forty stories from Lit from 30+ authors?

Umma is gone (she still belongs to that site as an author but has no stories listed under her name). BUT there are a few other authors that remind me of umma, as they have dozens of stories to their name and all were submitted on the same day.

Here is a link to the site.

Strap-on Stories

The only reason I mention this is because a search on my stories keeps turning up this site.

You may wish to check this site for your stories. The names have been changed (to protect the guilty - lol) and in fact they have even numbered quite a few of them.

Put on your detective hats. Happy hunting!

 

[Guest]

Hi, SSS.

Saw this and your other thread, Part 1. Sorry you're having problems, again those bastards.

I'd like to make a suggestion to Laurel:

I think it would be useful if some additional instructions were posted by Lit, maybe in the Resource section of the site, to help any author through the process and procedures for the detection and reporting of stolen stories, as well as what assistance (or involvement) Lit would/could offer during this time.

A simple process could outlined, made streamlined and useful for both Lit and its authors, to serve as a mustering point for reference by all in the future, rather than try to randomly search for threads or posts that are randomly scattered about or that are old.

Just a suggestion.

 

[Guest]

Excellent suggestion, Manxie!

But darling, you don't have to silver that out, you know. In fact, let me make it a bit larger so everyone can see.

Those BASTARDS!!!


What do you think?

 

[Guest]

Excellent suggestion, Manxie!

But darling, you don't have to silver that out, you know. In fact, let me make it a bit larger so everyone can see.

Those BASTARDS!!!


What do you think?

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Thank you, sweetie.

That means I don't have to use the word bitch.

 

[Guest]

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Thank you, sweetie.

That means I don't have to use the word bitch.

Moi?

 

[Guest]

Moi?

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Not you, sweetie. The "word".

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=217381

 

[A7inchPhildo]

Stolen stories

I'd like to make a suggestion to Laurel:

I think it would be useful if some additional instructions were posted by Lit, maybe in the Resource section of the site, to help any author through the process and procedures for the detection and reporting of stolen stories, as well as what assistance (or involvement) Lit would/could offer during this time.

A simple process could outlined, made streamlined and useful for both Lit and its authors, to serve as a mustering point for reference by all in the future, rather than try to randomly search for threads or posts that are randomly scattered about or that are old.

Just a suggestion.

Manx am I to understand you will contact Laurel with your thoughts? I think it would really help others and may deter some theft if it is very visable to all that read at Lit. Just knowing that some one is willing to follow up on stolen stories makes a big difference. At least the coward might not steal a story if they think they are going to be caught.

 

[Guest]

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Not you, sweetie. The "word".

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=217381

Ah yes - I saw SP's thread.

It's ok, though. They keep fuckin' with me and you're going to see a serious bitch!

(these days I tend to be rather - um - vocal?)

Life's too short, baby!

 

[Guest]

A7 -

Laurel does have a procedure for the administrative end; I know she's had to implement it before.

What is needed is a documented procedure for writers - I totally agree with Manx on this. We need to know exactly how to search, the best search engines to use, how to find the site owners, what to say when you email them, etc. How to get things started (instead of having to rely on the "once in awhile" thread about story theft).

I think that information should be posted with the Author guidelines. (But of course, I'm sure Laurel doesn't want to scare off new writers because of a few stupid sites that choose to steal!)

I will PM her about this - see what she thinks? She wants authors to succeed on Lit so I know she will help.

 

[Guest]

Re: Stolen stories

Manx am I to understand you will contact Laurel with your thoughts? I think it would really help others and may deter some theft if it is very visable to all that read at Lit. Just knowing that some one is willing to follow up on stolen stories makes a big difference. At least the coward might not steal a story if they think they are going to be caught.

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But Phil, I bring one opinion to the table. There may be others that are far better than mine. I think the AH has to ferret them out, don't you?

My post was to stir discussion, really. If there is interest in the suggestion or if someone has a better idea, we should talk about it. Maybe if there is enough interest, Laurel will then act on some kind of consensus. There is strength in numbers.

Until then, I'm a lonely voice whispering in the wind on such a big site.

 

[Guest]

A7 -

Laurel does have a procedure for the administrative end; I know she's had to implement it before.

What is needed is a documented procedure for writers - I totally agree with Manx on this. We need to know exactly how to search, the best search engines to use, how to find the site owners, what to say when you email them, etc. How to get things started (instead of having to rely on the "once in awhile" thread about story theft).

I think that information should be posted with the Author guidelines. (But of course, I'm sure Laurel doesn't want to scare off new writers because of a few stupid sites that choose to steal!)

I will PM her about this - see what she thinks? She wants authors to succeed on Lit so I know she will help.

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I'm thinking about Phil's comments above, honey, you may be the best person to get Laurel's attention in this matter to have her act, while it's still fresh.

Best of luck. Keep us posted.

 

[A7inchPhildo]

Re: Re: Stolen stories

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But Phil, I bring one opinion to the table. There may be others that are far better than mine. I think the AH has to ferret them out, don't you?

(First off Ferrets stink, like smell.)

Oh yea of course there are others here. What was I thinking? So inconsiderate of me to assume we were the important voting parties.

Well at least this time I did not go and tell Laurel what she has to do with her site. Sorry I get caught up in the moment and forget who is in charge.


OK let us take a vote all in favor say "I". Oposed ____ . Great it was unanimous ! You won't see that on Lit very often. [calling Laurel on her cell phone, so I can tell her how to run things.]


Just teasing. But all kidding aside Laurel is very open to listening to suggestions that better the site. Very good chance she has already breached this topic. Then again maybe not.

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: Stolen stories

(First off Ferrets stink, like smell.)

Oh yea of course there are others here. What was I thinking? So inconsiderate of me to assume we were the important voting parties.

Well at least this time I did not go and tell Laurel what she has to do with her site. Sorry I get caught up in the moment and forget who is in charge.


OK let us take a vote all in favor say "I". Oposed ____ . Great it was unanimous ! You won't see that on Lit very often. [calling Laurel on her cell phone, so I can tell her how to run things.]


Just teasing. But all kidding aside Laurel is very open to listening to suggestions that better the site. Very good chance she has already breached this topic. Then again maybe not.

Phil! Whoa!

I mean, honestly! Who got your panties in a wad???



Manxie is just trying to help. (I believe in your heart you are, Manxie, that is just what you do!)

Phil - Don't let your anger at the story-stealing assholes blur your vision!

Oh - and post back on here so you can have your 1000 post!

 

[snooper]

Finding stolen stories

OK, I'll start the list.

Obvious search engines are Google, Yahoo, Lycos, etc.

Then I used Google to find "Search Engines" and tried some.

I had the most hits for my nom de plume and for "Kobekistan" with "dogpile".

Sadly, for my ego, only two sites had stolen stories.

One had stolen a novel and my publisher is dealing with that.

However some stories on another site didn't show up. That is because they are (legitimately) on a part-paid site and the paid part is lightly encrypted to make sure you've paid.

This leads me to think that stolen stories for fully paid sites will not always show up.

 

[Guest]

Re: Finding stolen stories

OK, I'll start the list.

Obvious search engines are Google, Yahoo, Lycos, etc.

Then I used Google to find "Search Engines" and tried some.

I had the most hits for my nom de plume and for "Kobekistan" with "dogpile".

Sadly, for my ego, only two sites had stolen stories.

One had stolen a novel and my publisher is dealing with that.

However some stories on another site didn't show up. That is because they are (legitimately) on a part-paid site and the paid part is lightly encrypted to make sure you've paid.

This leads me to think that stolen stories for fully paid sites will not always show up.

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(Well, snooper, at least you found something.)

One issue I have using a standard search is that it can certainly check for a title and and an author's name, but those can easily be changed. Another issue I have is their apparent ineffectivenes at tracking down short text phrases of a story.

A test case: I've selected some short, obscure phrases from each of my posted stories on Literotica and submitted them to the standard search engines: none of the advanced text seaches (with adult filter "off," check for the "exact" words "anywhere" on the page, etc., etc.,) indicated these stories even exist on Lit.

My point?

If another site that uses a similar story encoding/encrypting techniques, like Lit, and reposts the stolen story with a new title and a new author name, I'm very pessimistic that a standard search engine will do the job at tracking down a stolen story.

It would be interesting if others can duplicate this, or better yet, have better techniques than me using the standard search engines that can find a story on Lit (or anywhere else for that matter), using the test case I offered above.

And, of course, it would also be interesting if others have come across other methods (or more powerful search engines) as an alternative and that can do the job.