Still figuring it out...

[sedated]

I'm a 28 year old female and have been trying to pinpoint my exact fetishes for quite some time now. I'm beginning to realize that all things I usually ponder relate, in one form or another, to incapacitation and/or kidnap fantasies.

I'm having a hard time finding safe and exciting ways to realize these, though, particularly the incapacitation part. For some reason, the idea of being drugged and/or weakened does much more for me than the idea of being bound. I'm not necessarily up for doing anything illegal, but I'm open to hearing anything that may suffice, so long as it isn't permanently damaging.

Anyone who has any ideas or experience with this, or would perhaps just like to discuss further, please post back or send me a message. Thanks for your input.

 

[CherryBomb24]

unless you date an anesthesiologist i think you are out of luck on staying legal and even then it would be illegal for him to take drugs home.
unless its an access amount of alcohol i think you may be out of luck, and even with that you could have long term affects = liver damage.
but i've been wrong before - maybe someone else has some suggestions?

 

[Vixandra]

Anything that alters the human mind, like drugs or alcohol, can be even more dangerous in a power exchange situation. It takes a huge amount of trust for most people, both Top and bottom, to agree to exchanging power under sober circumstances.

A drugged bottom or submissive cannot tell thier PYL (pick your lable) that they're not having fun anymore, that things have gone beyond what they can sanely tolerate. That they feel they are close to breaking in a bad way. Nor can said drugged pyl respond if there is an emergency, like the house catching fire or PYL having a heart attack.

Extreme examples perhaps, but ones that have happened in the past.

Now, as to the kidnapping fantasies- role play is a wonderful thing. A willing partner, a prepaired hotel room, some leather cuffs and a paddle or two, some trauma sheers (cut through any clothing without harming skin) and a gag can make for a memorable night.

Just make sure to set up safe words, and don't struggle to wickedly in public. Some well meaning good sumeritan might call the police to your aid.

 

[silverwhisper]

sedate, i feel very strongly that if you want to explore these fantasies, you should only do so in the context of a trusting relationship. you don't mention whether you are in one presently or not in your post.

ed

 

[subwannabe]

Even in a trusting relationship you are playing with fire - just ask Michael Jackson. Anesthesiologists pay high malpractice insurance premiums because of the fact that things do go wrong (deaths). Same can be said for date rape drugs, etc. Even though most of the time they do what they are intended to do, bad things can happen and you gotta wonder what is safe and what is not. Michael Jackson thought he was safe because he had a doctor right there on hand incase something did go wrong. About the safest thing you can do in a trusted relationship is get drunk and let the other person do what they want. Unfortunately you will probably not achieve the effect you desire because you would probably not feel much of anything.

 

[sedated]

Thank you for all the honest replies; I know what I mentioned does entail some dangerous desires, and I figured some of it wouldn't be very safe. Also, I've actually never even done drugs at all (short of drinking). Hopefully I'll be able to resolve some sort of compromise.

Ed, yes I'm actually married and my husband is very open to anything; we just aren't sure how to make any of this happen. I've also heard of "professional" kidnappers for hire, in which there isn't necessarily anything sexual involved - just the kidnap experience itself. Have you (or anyone else) ever heard of this? I'm sure my husband would be willing to do it, but I feel that whole setup may seem a bit contradictory since kidnappers are often times unknown (as far as identity or motives) and the situation spontaneous.

Thanks again.

 

[Submission13]

Is there a local swingers scene where you could get more info locally?

 

[CaRaMeLPoleDoll]

With the professional kidnapper, could they set something up with your husband that they kidnap you at a time convenient to you (without your knowledge ofcourse) take you to a hotel room blindfolded where your husband plays the part of the rest.
Tease and play with you while you seemingly don't know it's him until he reveals it to you?

 

[sedated]

PoleDoll, that definitely seems like a workable idea. The kidnap itself would be more authentic, yet we could take it to a further level (and safely), by having my husband enter at the right time. I don't how common kidnappers-for-hire are though... :/

Also, regarding the other half of the fantasy, it occurred to me that we've wondered if a taser would work at all. Has anyone ever tried this? Or would they be too dangerous, too painful, or just plain ineffective as far as actual incapacitation?

 

[tcook]

Tasers will incapacatate, but only while being tased- maybe a few seconds afterward.

They can also cause heart attacks, and other medical problems...hence the term "less lethal".

 

[emap]

Tasers would work but they are painful as all get out, sorta the same effect as shoving your finger in the light socket. Also something to keep in mind before you go to tasers if say you are into pain, accidents can happen, not fatal but well crapping your pants.

Date rape drugs are nothing more than tranquilizers for animals, usually horses. Overdoing the dose can put you into a permanent psychosis or dead. There are of course long term dangers to using them as well, they aren't well known because well most people are not wanting to keep having them used on them. Besides which amnesia is common, usually permanent, as in you wouldn't remember what your husband did to you. Totally takes the fun out of those doesn't it.

OK, so now there is one thing you can do that is mostly safe, though illegal. Marijuana yeah I just said that, I don't the stuff myself but you smoke enough of it and you kinda stop caring what happens and don't have an urge to stop it, closest to what you want I know that doesn't have health issues. Well besides the fact that after a while potheads tend to just sorta stay not caring what happens or having an urge to do much of anything besides get more. It also affects people differently, most just get hungry, some can't stop thinking about the weirdest stuff and so forth.

 

[arielsgoddess]

On "pro" kidnappers:

If you have male strippers near where you live, these guys would be the ones to approach. Otherwise, it is best to get someone you trust--if your family is healthy, a relative or close friend of the relative between 18 & your age--amd have them dress the part. Have them wear a Zorro mask or ski mask. It does not sound safe to me that you would have a stranger in a situation where the guy would likely become aroused and may do something to you--even something relatively minor--that could 'mindfuck' you for good--and under the law, you may not have recourse because of the nature of your involving him. Something like that would also hurt your relationship with your husband. If you are so desperate for an 'effect' like you describe, there are natural and nonnatural legal ways to go about it. To have the same level of incapacitation you would have if you had just run for your life and were left weakened, you could go to a gym and workout for several hours before getting dressed-up for your scenario. That way you are tired enough to be sore and a bit weak, but not the kind of next-day soreness that would interfere in your enjoyment. Another level to that effect is to go about normal activities the day before, but stay-up all night, leaving you a bit weak and dopey the next evening. I find it hard to believe that alcohol doesn't give you some of this effect--unless you are drinking all the time? I hope that is not the case or that has nothing to do with sexual fantasy. If you still want an additional chemical effect, the only legal one I can think of is a little bit of NyQuil. Time taking the dose so that it will effect you at the right time, and only as much as will effect you to the extent you want. Be careful: overdosing on this stuff is possible, and will make you violently ill or worse. Do not mix with other chemicals, either: so don't have alcohol on top of it--and never experiment with more than one chemical at once, because you can't always predict how they will react inside your body. Atleast with the over-the-counter stuff, if you do get sick or need other medical help because of any accident, no one will go to jail, and it will be easier to get a remedy or assistance by calling the pharmacy or doctor. This is still not something I recommend--I think it's as dangerous as choosing a fetish to have sex with random strangers--if you get into doing it, it could become the only thing that 'does it' for you, and dangerous things will eventually get you hurt or worse. It doesn't matter how long it takes the bad to happen--it isn't worth it. Good luck, in every way.

 

[sedated]

More Than a Turn-On

Wow, it does sound like tasers aren't worth it at all... I guess I'll be avoiding that one. I'd heard they can cause heart attack, so that's definitely not worth the risk.

Ariel, thanks for the in-depth input. I agree with the danger of involving stranger, so would definitely have to go with a close friend, etc... Regarding your comments on incapacitation, yes alcohol does give me a similar effect, and no, I am certainly not an alcoholic. I actually rarely drink, and the only problem with it is that there is a fine line for me between getting to the right frame of mind and falling asleep and/or feeling ill. Your other ideas are good as well, but I'll have to consider what is safe and worth it, as you discuss.

Honestly, I don't know why I have such strong desires for these things. I know they've been in my subconscious (at the very least) for quite some time, and I've made efforts to try and make sense of them. Some combination of these scenarios make their way into my dreams nearly every night and I really think a lot of it isn't sexual at all - just an urge to be controlled somehow, to have my life in someone else's hands. It feels like they're deep-seated and not just a means to a quick sexual fix. I know there are countless fetishes and "deviant" behaviors, but I sort of feel isolated when it comes to my own. Though there is no line between what is normal and what isn't, I still wonder, do my desires seem more on the abnormal side?

 

[unmorph]

Have you thought about hypnosis? It's not incapacitation per-se, but it does give the feeling of not being in control and under the influence of the hypnotist.

If that works for you, it's a good option. It's safe and doesn't cost anything. There are good references available on the internet to teach your partner how to do it. Also, I'm a trained hypnotist and willing to answer any questions you may have.

Again, I'm not sure if it fits into parameters of your fantasy, but I thought I would mention it anyway.