stem cells for dummies (the simple to understand version))

[tmuyo]

this is for those who really don't understand what the hell stem cells are or are just posting articles instead of explaining things or truly understanding them.

stem cells are cells which are located throughout existing things. humans have some. stem cells are very rare among the number of cells in ur body. they are very hard to find as well, because the body produces so few.

what stem cells do are produce needed tissues, such as bone cells, blood cells, fat cells, muscle cells, and brain cells.

each stem cell is capable of making every type of tissue cell that ur body needs. meaning one stem cell can make bone, fat, muscle, blood, brain cells.

however, we have a a few stem cells that are locked into one role. the stem cells found inside of bones (the marrow portion), create blood cells, and are the actual vital part of a marrow donorship.

these cells although they live forever under proper conditions, they degrade when not in the specific laboratory conditions. this explains why humans degrade and become old fogey's and eventually die.

 

[Cheyenne]

these cells although they live forever under proper conditions, they degrade when not in the specific laboratory conditions. this explains why humans degrade and become old fogey's and eventually die.

I don't know about the rest of what you said, but this part is what I've been saying all day. It makes sense to me that these cells live forever under laboratory conditions, where cells in humans degrade so we age and die.

 

[tmuyo]

yea, i know, me too

i tried on the other stem cell threads, but i kept being drowned out by the bitching and back biting, especially by those who have as much of an idea of what a stem cell is as bush does.

 

[Cheyenne]

Well, I say it is lucky that we have those 60 stem cell lines stored in laboratory conditions. Should last quite awhile for research purposes.

 

[tmuyo]

but having more is really helpful and speeds up research...

biotech companies love to have them to come up with new things. a seriously degraded stem cell is the worst cancer imaginable.

 

[*Lazer*]

There is no proof that the stem cells obtained from fetal tissue are any more valuable or diverse then those contained in cord blood. The biggest issue is the government dollars backing the research. Those that insist on using illegal sources will now suffer the loss of funding. Since this is a huge number of dollars the drug and biotech companies cannot afford to ignore the law. Special interest groups headed by "hollywood" personalities are to me ill informed. No further fetal tissue need be destroyed for reseach to continue. I fail to see how "their rights" are more important then the sincere beliefs of those who oppose the destruction of embryos. I choose to think Bush tried to make the impossible "ethical" choice in this instance.

 

[tmuyo]

i'm not trying to turn this into another stem cell debate...

just giving people a simplified non sciency thing to understand what stem cells are....i saw a request for a non-sciency version and posted the non-sciency version...

 

[p_p_man]

Quoted from tmuyo's post


stem cells are cells which are located throughout existing things.

Apart from humans what things?


stem cells are very rare among the number of cells in ur body. they are very hard to find as well, because the body produces so few.

Why does the body produce so few or is that what they're trying to find out? How do they find them?

what stem cells do are produce needed tissues, such as bone cells, blood cells, fat cells, muscle cells, and brain cells.

each stem cell is capable of making every type of tissue cell that ur body needs. meaning one stem cell can make bone, fat, muscle, blood, brain cells.

OK got that...

however, we have a a few stem cells that are locked into one role. the stem cells found inside of bones (the marrow portion), create blood cells, and are the actual vital part of a marrow donorship.

Is this bad or good? It sounds bad...

these cells although they live forever under proper conditions, they degrade when not in the specific laboratory conditions.

Which cells? The ones that are locked into one role or all of them?

Yeah got most of that...could you explain a bit further and I'll be a happy man.

What is the research they're doing?

Are they trying to stop them degrading or what? And if they succeed does that mean we'll live a lot longer?

ps: could you stop using text talk...

 

[tmuyo]

Re: Re: stem cells for dummies (the simple to understand version))

Quoted from tmuyo's post


stem cells are cells which are located throughout existing things.

Apart from humans what things?

theoretically everything

stem cells are very rare among the number of cells in ur body. they are very hard to find as well, because the body produces so few.

Why does the body produce so few or is that what they're trying to find out? How do they find them?

it's a painstaking process that is trying to be improved. there are many kinds of research being done with stem cells

what stem cells do are produce needed tissues, such as bone cells, blood cells, fat cells, muscle cells, and brain cells.

each stem cell is capable of making every type of tissue cell that ur body needs. meaning one stem cell can make bone, fat, muscle, blood, brain cells.

OK got that...

however, we have a a few stem cells that are locked into one role. the stem cells found inside of bones (the marrow portion), create blood cells, and are the actual vital part of a marrow donorship.

Is this bad or good? It sounds bad...

essentially all stem cells are locked in one role, however, if they switch roles, it can be very painful, and probably lead to a slow agonizing death. imagine muscle stem cells becomeing bone stem cells

these cells although they live forever under proper conditions, they degrade when not in the specific laboratory conditions.

Which cells? The ones that are locked into one role or all of them?

all of them

Yeah got most of that...could you explain a bit further and I'll be a happy man.

What is the research they're doing?

possible cloning (secretly perchance), i'm fuzzy on these cuz i'm getting tired...if you like i can look up some of things tomorrow

Are they trying to stop them degrading or what? And if they succeed does that mean we'll live a lot longer?

if they could stop them from degrading we'd be immortal...not necessarily a good thing, mind you. as our research improves it could lengthen life, but then we'd have the activists against things better for people all over our asses.

ps: could you stop using text talk...

what text talk???

if you have questions or would like me to post some research, email me. my lit mail works. i'll check tomorrow...

 

[tmuyo]

hopefully you and others have found this beneficial so far...

i know a lot of people like to debate things but when they debate without a simple education, then its like monkies bitching over a banana, when they don't know what the banana is...

i'm tired, so that might not have made sense

 

[p_p_man]

Thanks tmuyo.

I'm now much better informed than when I woke up.

This phrase especially:

"essentially all stem cells are locked in one role, however, if they switch roles, it can be very painful, and probably lead to a slow agonizing death. imagine muscle stem cells becomeing bone stem cells"

made me realise the stem cells' importance.

No need to know anymore...

Thanks again.

 

[tmuyo]

pp man

welcome, and maybe u'll bash me less now...lol

i still don't know what u meant by text talk tho...you mean the title stuff???

 

[p_p_man]

Re: pp man

welcome, and maybe u'll bash me less now...lol

i still don't know what u meant by text talk tho...you mean the title stuff???

Me? Bash you? Nah...

Wait til you get your own Troll, then you'll know what bashing really means.

Text talk is "lo hw ru cu tnt" instead of "hello how are you see you tonight". On this thread you only used "ur" but I've noticed you use more sometimes.

At my time of life it gives me a headache trying work what the fuck you're talking about...

 

[tmuyo]

jeezu...u people sure hate chatters...ok, i'm officially promising EVERY one that i'll try and fix my "text talk/chatter lingo"

 

[Cheyenne]

jeezu...u people sure hate chatters...

No, we love proper english!

 

[shadowsource]

Cheyenne -

You might as well know that Bay Buchanan (remember her - Pat's sister's and campaign manager and anti-choice stalwart) says that Bush's decision sucks because the available cell lines will expire within a couple of years and then Bush will be under tremendous pressure to admit further lines for federal funding. The Catholic spokesman concurs. So you really ought to concede that the damned cells do NOT last forever and that Bush's decision addresses the near-term, at best. I don't know how you could avoid the manifold references to cell lines tapping out, but you've done astonishingly well at not seeing such references.

 

[Weevil]

Re: Cheyenne -

So you really ought to concede that the damned cells do NOT last forever and that Bush's decision addresses the near-term, at best.

Yeah, you really ought to. Or else.

 

[Cheyenne]

Re: Cheyenne -

You might as well know that Bay Buchanan (remember her - Pat's sister's and campaign manager and anti-choice stalwart) says that Bush's decision sucks because the available cell lines will expire within a couple of years and then Bush will be under tremendous pressure to admit further lines for federal funding. The Catholic spokesman concurs. So you really ought to concede that the damned cells do NOT last forever and that Bush's decision addresses the near-term, at best. I don't know how you could avoid the manifold references to cell lines tapping out, but you've done astonishingly well at not seeing such references.

Heehee.. Bay Buchanan is a scientist now? And just exactly what would you expect the religious right to say on this issue? Or the Catholics? I'd be shocked if they said anything else.

 

[tmuyo]

Re: Cheyenne -

You might as well know that Bay Buchanan (remember her - Pat's sister's and campaign manager and anti-choice stalwart) says that Bush's decision sucks because the available cell lines will expire within a couple of years and then Bush will be under tremendous pressure to admit further lines for federal funding. The Catholic spokesman concurs. So you really ought to concede that the damned cells do NOT last forever and that Bush's decision addresses the near-term, at best. I don't know how you could avoid the manifold references to cell lines tapping out, but you've done astonishingly well at not seeing such references.

um...even the worst of students in my high school genetics class were informed that stem cells are infitely able to replicate in laboratory conditions. they only expire when problems occur or the lab tech fucked up *why wasn't that moron fired anyway?*

i wouldn't trust anything coming out of the buchanans, hell, the only relatives they lost in world war 2 fell off the guard towers they were manning at the concentration camps.

aside from that interesting joke i didn't bother to tell you so that you'd understand the relationship of it, the buchanan clan is about as smart as my right big toe...it's always slamming itself into things and finding ways to hurt itself.

 

[shadowsource]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh....

TMUYO & Cheyenne believe, in opposition to every published expert on this topic during the past week, that the existing, Bush-approved stem cell lines - however many there are, wherever they are - will cough up the necessary subject matter until the next Big Bang, if properly attended. There isn't much more to say about this. I don't buy it for a moment. There could be some prizes awaiting you two if you hook up with the right people.