Stealing stories

[Kanga40]

What happens on this site about stolen stories?
I just quickly read Julia: Alternate ending by TheBadOne.
I seems to be verbatim the story posted by Harddaysknight posted here on April 13, except for the last paragraph or so.
How can you allow this?
It's not only plagiarism, it's theft.

 

[Darkniciad]

The two stories in question:

http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=250644
http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=251862

Exact word for word until the ending, where it is pretty obvious some disgruntled person created an Alt name and posted a copy of the story the way *THEY* wanted it to end.

Click the report link at the bottom of the story and send a report containing a link to the original story in. The stolen story should vanish within minutes of the report being seen I should imagine.

Any time you see this, try to get a link to the original story, and then find the report link at the bottom of the story which has been stolen. Once on the report page, paste the link to the original story in the appropriate box and send it on it's merry way.

 

[kbate]

Simply send both story links and a description of the problem to Laurel in a PM. She can deal with the duplication, and discipline of the offender (if any).

It is quite possible that the second version was posted with permission of the original author (although probably not). It is also possible that the original author posted the other version under an alt - the feedback indicates that many readers were unhappy with the ending.

As I do not know the facts, I cannot do more than recommend that you present the matter to Lit Management. (Laurel).

 

[Kanga40]

Author did NOT give permission

and he is not particularly worried about the popularity of not of his stories.
HDK said in another forum:
"I certainly never told him to grab the story and run."
"I wrote to Lit this AM and asked that the story be removed and gave my reasons. Last I checked it was still there, but everything at Lit takes time. ........ The real issue is if this is allowed this time, it will be easier to do it next time."

That was eight hours ago - and the stolen story still remains available.

 

[cloudy]

and he is not particularly worried about the popularity of not of his stories.
HDK said in another forum:
"I certainly never told him to grab the story and run."
"I wrote to Lit this AM and asked that the story be removed and gave my reasons. Last I checked it was still there, but everything at Lit takes time. ........ The real issue is if this is allowed this time, it will be easier to do it next time."

That was eight hours ago - and the stolen story still remains available.

They'll remove it. Laurel and Manu DO have other jobs besides Lit, and lives....just so you know. They're very good about protecting their authors, have a little patience.

 

[SesameStreet]

Anytime you post a story on the Internet it can be stolen by others if they wish. It is especially easy on a free Forum such as this one. The stolen story may then show up on another Story Site on the Internet. There are a lot of others out there. For instance the Adult Story Corner. I don't know of anything that can prevent this from happening.

 

[Darkniciad]

Anytime you post a story on the Internet it can be stolen by others if they wish. It is especially easy on a free Forum such as this one. The stolen story may then show up on another Story Site on the Internet. There are a lot of others out there. For instance the Adult Story Corner. I don't know of anything that can prevent this from happening.

Exact text searches for fairly unique passages in the early part of the story in google has a good chance of turning up your story if it is stolen and posted elsewhere. Most thieves will just change a few character names and the title, leaving most all of your text intact for searches to find.

Whether the person running the site will cooperate in removing it is another matter. From what I've seen, most seem to drop stolen work off their sites fairly quickly.

 

[The Mystery Valiant]

It's Gone

The disputed story is now gone.

 

[Darkest Lord]

Funny thing..................

I seem to rember reading a story in Incest/Taboo section that seemed eerily similar to a story written by another author at a different site. I do not remember the name of the story on Literotica, but it deem seem odd.

Nobody likes a plagarist. If you get ideas for a story from someone else, have the decency to credit the original author. I would think that courtesy would at least dictate that much.

 

[BarondeSade]

Plagiarism

It is difficult for one to plagiarize one's self...

 

[lindiana]

It is difficult for one to plagiarize one's self...

He is not saying your friend plagiarized himself but that it is easy to read a story and find it delightful and somehow incorporate it into your own. I have been accused of that myself.

I will note that in college I was told every story ever told can be found in the Bible. We just change them around a bit and make them our own. But then I went to a Jesuit university.

In the meantime, if you think changing and resubmitting them is bad, check out this thread which deals with websites that are actually copying and pasting literotica stories and calling them their own.

Read this!!

The web is not secure enough and theft is quite common. Not only do I have stories stolen, but I have (as have many others) repeatedly been sent bogus emails trying to get information on my Paypal account so they can withdraw my funds.

With this and other problems, all we can do is try be honest and law abiding ourselves and hope that others follow our lead.

 

[AsylumSeeker]

Ignorant Of The Law

This thread makes me wonder what the legal take is on "stealing" stories. I know that inventors have to submit for patents. Can someone explain to me, at a layman's level, what is the difference between patents and copyrights? I don't think a copyright has to be "applied" for, that it's somehow "understood" that a written work is automatically "copyrighted". I'm assuming this, but not really sure. I say that because when I develop training at work and it's printed, a copyright statement precedes my work.

I'm sure lawyers like erotica too. Would be appreciative of an answer.

 

[Otto26]

I actually enjoy it when someone takes a piece and re-writes it, perhaps from the perspective of a different character (ala Wicked's take on the Wizard of Oz or Rosencranz and Guildenstern are Dead's take on Hamlet). But I agree that the example provided was definitely non-kosher.

 

[jack_straw]

may have been my story

I seem to rember reading a story in Incest/Taboo section that seemed eerily similar to a story written by another author at a different site. I do not remember the name of the story on Literotica, but it deem seem odd.

Nobody likes a plagarist. If you get ideas for a story from someone else, have the decency to credit the original author. I would think that courtesy would at least dictate that much.

It's possible you're thinking of a story I had stolen off Literotica earlier this year. It was indeed an Incest/Taboo story called "Son Of Mine" that I posted here in July 2004, then showed up on another site in January of this year under a new name and by a different "author." It was word-for-word the same story. I contacted Laurel about it, and she told me they'd try to get it removed, and I also contacted the other site, but never heard anything from them. As far as I know it's still there.

Now, I have borrowed some ideas and concepts from other stories, but I've been very clear about crediting the original writer at the outset, and I've taken pains to alter some things here and there to make certain that what I'm writing are my own words and not those of someone else.

Plagiarism is a serious offense and will get you fired from any reputable media organization.

 

[thehumpman]

He is defending himself(very poorly)

It is difficult for one to plagiarize one's self...

Two problems I have with Baronde stories, one they are quite old, he changed the titles of them and then posted them on this site. Under a different name and copyright, the original author of his work is Baron Darkside.
The other problem is that stories by Baron Darkside are on MrDouble, paysite where you can download in zip form, therefore why would a writer who sells his stories now want to give them away for free.
Until you prove otherwise or someone proves otherwise, as far as I'm concerned you are stealing older previously copyrighted material and posting it as your own.

 

[BarondeSade]

My Proof

I am currently writing a new story called "The Date" and to prove that I am both BarondeSade and Baron Darkside, I will first post it on Literotica, because they take forever to post a story to the site. And when it is posted then I will post it in Mr Doubles' website...

Mr Double is having money problems...

I have a balance owed of more than a thousand dollars. He says that Master Card won't recomp him until he removes all underage sex off his site. He is adamant that he won't do this. But then, only an author on his site would know this...Go tell...

I have not received compensation or feedback on stories in over a year from Mr Double...

As an author, I need some kind of feedback that my work is liked, so this is my way of doing it...

The only things I have stolen are ideas for stories and that, my friend, ain't plagiarism...

Cheers...

 

[AchtungNight]

I agree with all this. Homage is one thing, I do it quite frequently in my stories, but outright plagarism is a bad idea. I am glad that this site is watchful for it. If anybody ever does something like this to my stories and y'all see it, please let me know. I will be glad to report the problem and help settle it.

That noted, on occasion writers do get inspired by the same things and write similar stories that are nonetheless different by reason of their authors. My first erotic story was a good example. Shortly before I wrote Fear, Lust, and Vanity, another more established author published a story with the same characters in similar situations. This was done with no communication between us until after both stories were complete. I am happy to say there were many differences between the tales. Mine was longer, more intense, and had celebrity cameos and a car chase. His included a movie of Rachel McAdams's I missed and had a few other variations too. It was an interesting experiment in how authors can be inspired by the same thing and put out tales differing in style and quality. I would gladly go through it again. But not by way of plagarism.

 

[AliciaBishop]

Plagiarism

It's everywhere. Actually, my readers have caught it a couple of times and reported it to me.

The only thing that happens is they get thrown off the net.