Starsigns and Roles?

[YinandYang]

Wondering whether starsigns have a bearing on your role within BDSM?

 

[curiousjen]

I'm not a fan of astrology. Maybe I've been put off by the cheap nasty little predictions you get in magazines and newspapers, or maybe I don't like the idea that burning balls of gas control our destiny, so the truth is I haven't given it a great deal of thought. However, I am often curious about things, and occasionally have been known to flick through a book in the library (quite a respectable one as far as i can tell) they have about star signs, and see what my friends and I are supposed to be like. Mostly, its totally inaccurate although some of it fits. But then, when you're making fifty generalised statements about a personality type, some of them are going to fit, I suppose.

I'm a leo, by the way. I am supposed to be a confident party girl and proud and vain. Couldn't have got me more wrong, really.

So, what bearing does it have within my BDSM life? well... None! None that I'm aware of, anyway.

 

[Lilith]

I'm a Sagitarrius and it fits me to a T. I think some of the following traits both positive and negative lend themselves to me as a Domme:

Positive Characteristics:
Philosophical
Broadminded
Optimistic
Straightforward
Freedom-loving
Adventurous
Religious
Scholarly
Enthusiastic
Social
Charming

Negative Characteristics:
Self-indulgent
Blunt
Impatient
Argumentative
Exaggerative
Talkative
Procrastinating
Pushy
Gamblers
Hot-headed

 

[laurel-marie]

Very interesting idea.
Problem is I do not know anything about Tauruses (sp?) to answer that question.
Here's a thought though...if lets say the traits of a Taurus fit me as a submissive to a 'T', then what about Dominants who are also Tauruses?
(This could be confusing)

 

[CutieMouse]

*****

 

[graceanne]

Both me and K are pisces. K's a typical pisces, indecisive and creative. I'm creative, but I'm not indecisive, and it drives me crazy that he is.

 

[HawkEye38]

Cancer and I'm a switch.

Put that in your statistical smipe and poke it!

 

[sphynx's dragon]

I'm also a Sagitarrius, and as we know am very much a sub. But many of the statistics of a Sagitarrius fit me very well!

 

[DVS]

I'm not a "true" believer, but I do fit many of the Aries traits. I believe that if you are going to check for such things, your actual and intended life path must be taking into consideration. Such as the childhood you had, parental influence, etc. And, were you hindered from what you wanted to do in your life by the lack of money or maybe some tragedy forced you to take a different path.

Everything we experience in life takes its toll, one way or another. Maybe we started out as the stars said, and were destined to be that person, but well, life gets in the way.

Personally, I know of several strong feelings I have that fit the Aries pattern, and money issues have always hindered me. Also, it was drilled into my head that first you pay your bills, and second, you don't buy anything you can't afford. And, third, you take a path in life that is logical and safe. You tend to become your parents.

I had several life changing influences that forced me to do one thing or another, so what I wanted to do was most always delayed. You just didn't do some things, back then. And, in the BDSM area, I always knew what I liked, but it was seen as bad to beat a woman, and some of the sexual acts were actually illegal. If you ventured too far into the mainstream with such thoughts, you were at the least considered an outcast.

Not that I blame anyone for it, it just happens. But, where I was actually more liberal and creative, and saw what I wanted to do with my life, I was forced to be more conservative and respectful of those who "knew better" about things. So, I became more conservative by default, hoping to one day take that intended leap.

That leap has never been completely fulfilled, because I've been conservative for a long time, now. Actually, I've been conservative longer than I ever thought about being liberal. Any thoughts I now consider “risky” make me remember my parent's words. You take a path in life that is logical and safe.

I'm not any different than anyone else of my generation. And actually, my parents sacrificed much more than I did, for the lives they lived. Were those lives what they actually wanted? They never really said. That's something else their generation didn't do. They didn't complain about their problems.

But, to make this rambling a bit longer, I believe that astrological maps are only a starting point. We are born under a certain sign. If we follow what we believe is our "intended" life path, those traits might seem truer. But, how many of us are allowed to do exactly as we wish, to allow these traits to guide our destiny?


Maybe I should have been a politician?

 

[babiesmiles]

I'm not an expert but I was said once I have a very complex astrological outline .

I'm a cancer , taurus ascendant with almost all planets in leo.

So as ( I was said ) I should consider at least 3 signs to definite my characteristics I gave up with astrology time ago.

BTW despite I'm still working on myself and I don't really know (yet ) if I'm truely a submissive ( besides I understand there is not just one meaning of the term ) I know for sure there isn't one single dominant fibre nor desire in my way to live an affective ( or sexual ) relationship .

On the other side in my professional and public life I'm a determinated, strong willed woman , and if I can say with highly pronounced leadership features.

However I really can't say if it depends on my astral theme !!

 

[grace9]

Wondering whether starsigns have a bearing on your role within BDSM?

For me it does but it's not because of my Pisces sun sign alone. It is much more evident in other planets in my chart and their house placement of relationships, partnership and how I express love....and dominance is indicated by planet and house placement of what I'm attracted to in a partner.

As for public persona, work etc...I tend to be more blunt, vivacious, outspoken and a leader in projects......the planets/houses connected to these areas are in Aries (a more dominant sign) in my chart.

I was surprised to recently guess by personality alone what someone's rising sign was. They had no idea what it was until we looked it up together. So there's a bearing I think astrology may have on our personality/inclinations but other factors in our day to day lives determine how or if we choose to express them at all.

Gracie~

 

[DVS]

On the other side in my professional and public life I'm a determinated, strong willed woman , and if I can say with highly pronounced leadership features.

However I really can't say if it depends on my astral theme !!

Of course, you know that strong women make the best submissives. They have such strong vanilla lives that they tend to crave being submissive at the end of the day. My most prized and loved submissive was very smart, and quite at home in the corporate boardroom. And, she was not the one taking notes. She had no problem standing up for herself among the "kick 'em to the curb" crowd.

Ah, but when she left that world, she would melt down. She said she loved letting someone take charge and control her. It seemed the worse her corporate day was, the more kinky she became at night. I guess it was kind of a ying and yang thing. Oh, she's a Pisces.

 

[Xelebes]

I'm a Gemini. My brother's birthday is right after mine.

 

[YinandYang]

But, to make this rambling a bit longer, I believe that astrological maps are only a starting point. We are born under a certain sign. If we follow what we believe is our "intended" life path, those traits might seem truer. But, how many of us are allowed to do exactly as we wish, to allow these traits to guide our destiny?


Maybe I should have been a politician?

Astrological maps...Hmmmm I have the same feeling, like a map that we can consult in the background. A small part of our make up, including conditioning from our peers, ancestors etc.

I am a very typical pisces and see it it many aspects of my life. Strong and fearless on the outside, a weak ball of jelly on the inside lol.

 

[YinandYang]

Cancer and I'm a switch.

Put that in your statistical smipe and poke it!

Seeing as cancerians are very changeable in their emotions...seems you may have hit the nail on the head

 

[YinandYang]

Ah, but when she left that world, she would melt down. She said she loved letting someone take charge and control her. It seemed the worse her corporate day was, the more kinky she became at night. I guess it was kind of a ying and yang thing. Oh, she's a Pisces.

sounds like me (apart from the corporate thing)....pisces...stubborn...strong and yin and yang lol

 

[graceanne]

Like I said, I'm a pisces, but just barely. I know that normally the cutoff for pisces is the 21st, but that year it was the 20th, and I was born on the 19th. If I'd been born just 3 hours later, I'd be an aries. So I'm creative, stubborn, determined, loyal, compassionate, escapist, confident, decisive, and impatient. I'm a very confused person.

 

[babiesmiles]

Of course, you know that strong women make the best submissives. They have such strong vanilla lives that they tend to crave being submissive at the end of the day. My most prized and loved submissive was very smart, and quite at home in the corporate boardroom. And, she was not the one taking notes. She had no problem standing up for herself among the "kick 'em to the curb" crowd.

Ah, but when she left that world, she would melt down. She said she loved letting someone take charge and control her. It seemed the worse her corporate day was, the more kinky she became at night. I guess it was kind of a ying and yang thing. Oh, she's a Pisces.

Exactly . I agree completely because this one is a kind of analysys about myself I 've already pondered , and I arrived at the same conclusion .

I think it is very tiring to be the one always in charge , always to the front line with the good , of course , but with all the responsibilities and the nuisances (when you are lucky !!) as well . It's very relaxing to hand over the control to someone else in some aspect of life.

And as I 've always had a problematic ( if not psycotic ) relation with loss of control issues (e.g time, airplanes, aenesthesia as I said in another thread somewhere in BDSM talk) I'm still working hard on this submissive side (maybe still a "wanna be" side ..lol) of myself , cause I think I'm finally giving a proper name to something I always felt as missing in my emotional and mainly sexual past relationships.

Surely it's not easy at all , and it's a continue inner (and not only ) fight . But I'm slowly improving studying , reading , thinking and mainly with the help of a Dom who has the cleverness to accept all that besides a sensitive but strict enough "hand" to face , deal and when necessary firmly hold back my (I think istinctive ) attempts at topping from the bottom, bringing me in the place where I'm sure I want to stay.

As I said it's very difficult but challenging for ( he says ) both of us and I have the strong feeling the reward is gonna be great .

Uh ! but I'm rambling now and I noticed I am hijacking the thread . My apologies !

 

[DVS]

Exactly . I agree completely because this one is a kind of analysys about myself I 've already pondered , and I arrived at the same conclusion .

I think it is very tiring to be the one always in charge , always to the front line with the good , of course , but with all the responsibilities and the nuisances (when you are lucky !!) as well . It's very relaxing to hand over the control to someone else in some aspect of life.

And as I 've always had a problematic ( if not psycotic ) relation with loss of control issues (e.g time, airplanes, aenesthesia as I said in another thread somewhere in BDSM talk) I'm still working hard on this submissive side (maybe still a "wanna be" side ..lol) of myself , cause I think I'm finally giving a proper name to something I always felt as missing in my emotional and mainly sexual past relationships.

Surely it's not easy at all , and it's a continue inner (and not only ) fight . But I'm slowly improving studying , reading , thinking and mainly with the help of a Dom who has the cleverness to accept all that besides a sensitive but strict enough "hand" to face , deal and when necessary firmly hold back my (I think istinctive ) attempts at topping from the bottom, bringing me in the place where I'm sure I want to stay.

As I said it's very difficult but challenging for ( he says ) both of us and I have the strong feeling the reward is gonna be great .

Uh ! but I'm rambling now and I noticed I am hijacking the thread . My apologies !

Hijacking the thread? Your post is on target for the subject, isn't it? I think it is.

My Picies sub was very unique, and I loved her strength. She was very much a business suit and high heals woman during the day, and a blue jeans and sneakers gal after work. And, she was allergic to many different kinds of pain medications. She had to go to the dentist without Novacain. She also had aa earring pulled out of her ear and it ripped her ear lobe.

She couldn't find a doctor who would sew it up, without deadening it, first. She finally found a oral surgeon who would do it. He deadened it with an ice cube the best he could. She said for some reason he was more squeamish than she was.

She was a tough lady.

 

[babiesmiles]

Hijacking the thread? Your post is on target for the subject, isn't it? I think it is.

My Picies sub was very unique, and I loved her strength. She was very much a business suit and high heals woman during the day, and a blue jeans and sneakers gal after work. And, she was allergic to many different kinds of pain medications. She had to go to the dentist without Novacain. She also had aa earring pulled out of her ear and it ripped her ear lobe.

She couldn't find a doctor who would sew it up, without deadening it, first. She finally found a oral surgeon who would do it. He deadened it with an ice cube the best he could. She said for some reason he was more squeamish than she was.

She was a tough lady.

The bit of the surgeon reminded me the dentist who has me in cure.

Few months ago I needed my wisdom tooth pulled out ( and with it my wisdom is definitively gone too !). I was not scared at all and I told the doctor to give me a minimum amount of aenestethic cause I really don't like it ,but as the tooth was in a place difficult to work on even with an injection , after a while the dentist started to get nervous and wanted to put me down with a mask of some "whatsthename" aenestethic just to work better , he said .
I must have yelled at him in a so bad way to give himself a move, he gave up with all his being fussy and finally pulled it out , all tremblig for the effort.
He gave me an enourmous prescription of painkillers which obviously I didnt take at all.

But I'm weird because I'm the one who another time managed to relax so much during a long teet cure session that after more than an hour of his boring messing around on my teet , he had to wake me up as I was peacefully sleeping ... lol ...

So I know something about tough ladies , and back on topic, it has nothing to do with being submissive or not because ( but it is just a personal thought ) in my opinion a submissive is required to have an amount of courage , daring spirit , and strenght that sometimes a certain kind of Dominants ( but I wouldnt even call them this way ) lack .

I hate stereotypes and one thing I've noticed wandering around and talking with people who defines themselves in the lifestyle , luckily not on this board (and that is one of the reasons I like here ) , is the fact that some self calling Dominants really don't understand the great gift of strenght are given by their ply, specially if females ( yes that sexist mentality is hard to die everywhere ).

They consider submissives as weak , sweet , defenceless, docile , mindless creatures , easy to lead , not by choice of the ply as I highly respect it , but for a supposed kind of natural disposition to obey, which should allow them to have just rights and no duties , almost seen by some warped mind as "Dull Angels of the St. Andrew Cross Heart " .

And that in my opinion besides to be confusing for people who is now starting to learn about BDSM, like me, is an insult to all the people who are in the lifestyle knowing what it really means in all its facets.

Because if a Dominant lessen the ply's value he (conventional male gender used) has a relationship or just play with, he rarely has the intelligence to understand he is lessening himself . That's why at the very last we are the people whom we associate with .

In every context lifestyle or not.

arrrghhh rambling/ ranting again ! sorry

 

[dexwebster]

Mine actually borders on stereotypical. I'm a Libran bisexual switch. Looks like I just can't make up my mind about anything.

 

[Guest]

Fish?

Sorry, I always find this one a bit amusing...
I am a pisces, and frequently people have trouble (people who take it more seriously than I do that is) reconciling that, with a Dominant personality and behaviour..
*shrug*
I have taken to reminding them that a shark is also a fish....

 

[graceanne]

Sorry, I always find this one a bit amusing...
I am a pisces, and frequently people have trouble (people who take it more seriously than I do that is) reconciling that, with a Dominant personality and behaviour..
*shrug*
I have taken to reminding them that a shark is also a fish....

K's a pisces, too.

 

[sunfox]

http://www.zaur.com/aboutme/virgo_traits.htm

I am a Virgo, and honestly.. I have yet to find any information on Virgos that didn't describe me almost disturbingly well.

I am persnickity, perfectionistic, quick tempered, critical, blunt to the point of cruelty, and very cold emotionally (externally).

I'm also organized, detail oriented, cautious, methodical, loyal, and even handed, and I do possess a lot of emotion. I just have trouble expressing it and tend to conceal it.

C is a Scorpio, and his fits him pretty well, but not nearly as completely as mine does.

He is determined, intuitive, passionate, magnetic.. and can also be resentful, compulsive, secretive, and is extremely obstinate, even when he knows he's in the wrong.

He's a dignified and reserved person, and is on the outskirts of most groups, but he is very observant, and frequently goes right to the heart of something that's bothering me or a friend of his without needing to dig through all the layers of concealment.

So I do think that in some part, our signs do affect how we relate to each other in our relationship.. but a large part of it is just ourselves, as well, and how we've developed independent of those potential guidelines.

 

[Snoozebutton2]

Virgo but only neat at work, enjoy ordered chaos at home. lol