Star Wars, Revenge of the Sith (for those who have seen it only)

[carsonshepherd]

so. who else groaned aloud when the newly transformed Darth Vader stepped out of the pod and asked about Padme, and when told she was dead, he raised his fists and shouted


NNNOOOOOOO!

I fucking HATED that part.

If you've seen the movie, what did you think of it?

 

[Wildcard Ky]

I didn't think it was bad at all. She was the whole reason for him doing the things he did. I think it was as much of a scream of anguish at himself as it was for the loss of her. He had betrayed and killed his friends, he had lost both legs and an arm, plus been burned beyond recognition just to save her.

Having gone through all of this, he's told that HE killed her.

 

[carsonshepherd]

but it was so cliched..... it could have been so much more effective, because everything you say is true... it just lacked emotional power to me. Maybe I'm just a cynic. I mean here's this machine man who's only got one last link to his human life (Padma) and he loses her and all he can do is wail "NNOOOOOoooo"???

 

[Liar]

As if that was the only cliché in there.

Btw, the little control panel with 70's style buttons on Darth's chest suddenly looked pretty stupid and very out of place.

 

[Wildcard Ky]

Did you like the movie? It had a few things that didn't sit as well with me, but overall I thought it was excellent.

I think it's the best of the 6 movies.

 

[carsonshepherd]

yeah, I liked it. it probably was the best of the 6.... there were a few issues I didn't care for, but all in all it was good.

 

[rikaaim]

Don't get me started. Some of the things they did were really cool and fantasict, but I felt there were many flaws.

Rushed scenes were some only lasted a single minute, so it seemed.

Poor character developement. Anakin fell entirely too easily. "Sure. I'll join the dark side. But I won't say I'm evil even though I know I am. Let me kill Padame just becuase she won't rule the universe with me. Then let my cry because 'I' killed her." Shit. He was going to choke her to death.

I did think it was cool, and sadly it probably is the best of the six. After watching this movie and realizing that, I realized how crappy the movies are. The whole Star Wars genre is great, but the films are really poor examples of fine movie making. Outside of the special effects, the overall quality of the films are rather weak. In my opinion of course.

 

[rikaaim]

This explains my displeasure to a tee. This is the real reason I was unhappy with the movie.

Transition Hell.

It's short, but highly accurate. I think so anyway.

 

[Halo_n_horns]

I wasn't crazy about the scene, but it was understandable why it needed to be there. Everything he was going through was because he wanted to save her life. I think what made the scene a diamond in the rough was the obviously limited acting ability of the kid playing Anikin(spl?) Skywalker. Even with his face covered in the Vader garb, his animated attempt at pulling off the reaction to her death was rigid and a bit fumbled.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

. . . who else groaned aloud when the newly transformed Darth Vader stepped out of the pod and asked about Padme, and when told she was dead, he raised his fists and shouted NNNOOOOOOO! . . .

I think it would have been neat if Darth Vader (using Anakin's voice from Episode One) could have been heard saying: "Ooops!"

 

[carsonshepherd]

poor natalie portman... she was given the worst crap dialogue in the whole movie.

 

[Halo_n_horns]

poor natalie portman... she was given the worst crap dialogue in the whole movie.

But she still pulled off her dialog better than the kid playing Vader.

 

[carsonshepherd]

no kidding... if she'd only had a decent part to work with.

 

[SnoopDog]

The scene looks kinda cheesy when you look at it seperately but in the context of the movie it works in my opinion. The only thing that annyoed the crap out of me was the german dubbed voice. That so sucked as Vader. I'd loved to hear James Earl Jones, I think I'm gonna see it again in english.


Snoopy

 

[Seattle Zack]

Well, the dialogue was crap throughout the whole series ... as Harrison Ford said while filming the first one, "George, you can write this shit, but we can't say it..."

So who was Annikin's dad? His mom was a slave whore, is that what we're supposed to interpolate? She gave it up to Palpatine, or was it some immaculate conception thing (the Force and all)?

Portman's character was disappointing, the way she died, after Lucas had built her up and all.

All and all, I was not impressed with the characters, and how they resolved their conflicts. Pretty poor storytelling, I thought.

Ewan McGregor was easily the best actor of the last act, made it very believable that he could have been Obi-Wan in the "prequel" from 28 years ago.

Light saber battles were cool, though.

 

[lil_elvis]

"A better writer, he should have hired." - Yoda

 

[carsonshepherd]

you're right Zack.... poor dialogue and bad character development are almost a hallmark of the series. They put their money into the special effects to distract the viewers from the shitty writing. I was so disappointed in Padma's death, as well. Besides, didn't Leia once say she remembered their real mother?

 

[Remec]

so. who else groaned aloud when the newly transformed Darth Vader stepped out of the pod and asked about Padme, and when told she was dead, he raised his fists and shouted


NNNOOOOOOO!

I fucking HATED that part.

If you've seen the movie, what did you think of it?

I think as the third part of a six movie cycle, it wasn't half bad. However, taken as a movie in its own right, it felt rushed. Not enough time and detail was given to developing almost any of the characters or what happens to them.

Basically, it was like you could feel someone standing off to the side with a clipboard of major plot points to come in Episodes 4, 5, and 6 and ticking them off as the linkage from this movie (and its predecessors) became clear.

What happened to the twins' mother?
Why was Yoda on Dagobah and Kenobi on Tatooine?
How did Luke get returned to his family's home planet, and how did Leia end up in the household of Senator Organa?
How did Anakin transform into Vader?
How did Captain Antilles acquire the droids and why doesn't 3PO remember his former master?

But there are other questions that I have as well, which I suppose the two proposed television series are set to answer, since they fill in the years between 3 and 4 the way the Clone Wars series covers the gap between 2 and 3.

Overall, I'd give it a C+ (possibly a B- after a few more times watching it)

 

[Remec]

Don't get me started. Some of the things they did were really cool and fantasict, but I felt there were many flaws.

Rushed scenes were some only lasted a single minute, so it seemed.

Poor character developement. Anakin fell entirely too easily. "Sure. I'll join the dark side. But I won't say I'm evil even though I know I am. Let me kill Padame just becuase she won't rule the universe with me. Then let my cry because 'I' killed her." Shit. He was going to choke her to death.

I did think it was cool, and sadly it probably is the best of the six. After watching this movie and realizing that, I realized how crappy the movies are. The whole Star Wars genre is great, but the films are really poor examples of fine movie making. Outside of the special effects, the overall quality of the films are rather weak. In my opinion of course.

But how much of that do you think is actually the movies' fault and how much has to be attributed to Lucas' usage of the stylistic elements from the old serials and Saturday science-fiction/space opera matinees that inspired much of the story in the first place?

 

[rikaaim]

But how much of that do you think is actually the movies' fault and how much has to be attributed to Lucas' usage of the stylistic elements from the old serials and Saturday science-fiction/space opera matinees that inspired much of the story in the first place?

I think your previous post says exactly what I was trying to, but failed to find the words. As I was reading your above post, I was nodding and agreeing the whole time.

I don't really know what I was expecting from this film to be honest. I just also felt that it was rushed and that they tried to hit all the plot points and make sure the gap was as closed as possible between 3 and 4 before the end of the movie. It's a little odd that a movie 2 and a half hours long would seem rushed.

To be honest I think they should've taken a page outta "The Lord of the Rings" book and just make the movie fucking long, but thourough. Hell, "The Return of the King" was 3 hours and 15 minutes long, not the exteneded version either. The extended version adds another 45 minutes to the film.

I do agree that Ewan McGregor is the most believable character in the prequels. Samuel L. Jackson always kicks ass no matter what he does.

Other than those few exceptions, the characters just weren't as believeable, or drew in the interest of the viewer, as much as Harrison Ford and Company.

I just would've liked to have seen the completeness that "The Lord of the Rings" provided, but I understand not every movie that is supposed to be epic and grand can live up to that quality. I think that series really set the bar as far as trilogies go. However, when something like this has been in the making for 28 years, I would expect it to be a little better than a B- grade at best.

 

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[rikaaim]

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Is this the weekend lifestyle you've been afraid to tell us about Dran? Is this your coming out pic?

 

[CrazyyAngel]

so. who else groaned aloud when the newly transformed Darth Vader stepped out of the pod and asked about Padme, and when told she was dead, he raised his fists and shouted


NNNOOOOOOO!

I fucking HATED that part.

If you've seen the movie, what did you think of it?

Well ... maybe just leaving out the "Noooo" part and let him rage within the Force might have been a tad more emotional, but I don't despise that scene even with the "Noo" part in it ...

Overall I think its easily the best movie out of the 6. Sure, some lines where a bit ... well dumb, but there were many things that made more than up for it.

After this movie it is finally established ... Yoda rocks the universe! Period. With R2-D2 a very close second ... seeing him whooping that Cylons ass was just hilarious.

The CGI was astonishing, as always. Just to see the lively planet that Coruscant is. Awesome.

Well ... thats it for as far as the movies go. Now I can't wait to see the live action TV series.

CA

 

[gauchecritic]

Lord of the Rings.
Battle beyond the stars(?) magnificent 7 in space
Starship Troopers
Matrix


4 of the films that Lucas ripped... sorry paid homage to in episode 3.

Oh, and the Simpsons with the NOOOOOOO. I fully expect a deleted scene where the few Jedi left hear about the kids getting slaughtered utter "Oh the humanity."

The original, given the times and originality(?) was the best of the bunch, with episode one running a close second.

The 'growth' of Anakin into Vader was very poorly done and sidestepped into love and mush when it could so easily have simply aspired to greed and power. But then I could never understand how the council let Quai Gon train him in the first place.

And all the Jedi getting shot in the back? How's that happen then if they're Jedi? A thousand droids to one Jedi? They don't break a sweat. Two clones on bikes and they're done? Right.

 

[carsonshepherd]

Lord of the Rings.
Battle beyond the stars(?) magnificent 7 in space
Starship Troopers
Matrix


4 of the films that Lucas ripped... sorry paid homage to in episode 3.

Oh, and the Simpsons with the NOOOOOOO. I fully expect a deleted scene where the few Jedi left hear about the kids getting slaughtered utter "Oh the humanity."

The original, given the times and originality(?) was the best of the bunch, with episode one running a close second.

The 'growth' of Anakin into Vader was very poorly done and sidestepped into love and mush when it could so easily have simply aspired to greed and power. But then I could never understand how the council let Quai Gon train him in the first place.

And all the Jedi getting shot in the back? How's that happen then if they're Jedi? A thousand droids to one Jedi? They don't break a sweat. Two clones on bikes and they're done? Right.

my thoughts exactly. not exactly the movie I've beenw aiting for since I was two years old....