SRS Question

[bigcolors]

While watching a Discovery Health program about M to F and F to M, I was left with a few questions...they said after the final surgery (M to F) that you can still feel orgasm...does it feel like the same orgasm that was had as a male or does it now feel like a female orgasm????
And another thing they didn't mention is with a F to M transition what is the final transition for them???? What is below the waist now????

 

[Tymeless]

While watching a Discovery Health program about M to F and F to M, I was left with a few questions...they said after the final surgery (M to F) that you can still feel orgasm...does it feel like the same orgasm that was had as a male or does it now feel like a female orgasm????
And another thing they didn't mention is with a F to M transition what is the final transition for them???? What is below the waist now????

the orgasims are similar to what you had before but they are closer to a females at that point!

ummm they have a penis!

 

[Etoile]

While watching a Discovery Health program about M to F and F to M, I was left with a few questions...they said after the final surgery (M to F) that you can still feel orgasm...does it feel like the same orgasm that was had as a male or does it now feel like a female orgasm????
And another thing they didn't mention is with a F to M transition what is the final transition for them???? What is below the waist now????

I think I saw part of that same show the other night. First of all, not all MTF women are orgasmic. Those that are, couldn't tell you if it feels like a female orgasm...because they have never felt one! (I couldn't tell you what a male orgasm feels like, either.) I think it's more important that they are having the orgasm...what it "feels like" doesn't really matter as long as it feels good!

Not all FTM men have a penis. There are two types of "bottom surgery" for transmen, one is phalloplasty and the other is metoidioplasty.

In metoidioplasty, they basically lengthen the clitoris and make it into a very small penis. That's kind of oversimplifying it, but it's the gist of what happens. The outer labia are sometimes fused together to become a scrotum, and they can put fake testicles in them.

In phalloplasty, they take a piece of tissue from your arm or leg, and they make it into a tube and that becomes the penis. Again, that's a very simple way to put it, but it's basically what happens. Again, they can make a scrotum out of the outer labia, and put fake testicles in them. You can learn lots more about phalloplasty (and see pictures) at this site: http://www.ftmphallo.com/

However, again, not all FTM men do this. There are some who choose never to have the bottom surgery at all. It is expensive and can be risky, and the procedures are not as common as bottom surgery for MTF women. If you want to know what this looks like, check out Buck Angel's website: http://www.transsexual-man.com/

 

[bigcolors]

Thank you for the info...I will check out the links

 

[Harrowborg]

Assuming there are a fair few FTM and MTF folks about, has anyone ever wondered why they dont do a penis transplant from a MTF to a FTM? while it may not be fully functional, it would be better aesthetically at the very least, than a simple tube fashioned from other skin? or is that to outside the realms of possibility?

I guess if a woman didn't want her bits anymore she could transplant them over as well...

 

[Etoile]

Assuming there are a fair few FTM and MTF folks about, has anyone ever wondered why they dont do a penis transplant from a MTF to a FTM? while it may not be fully functional, it would be better aesthetically at the very least, than a simple tube fashioned from other skin? or is that to outside the realms of possibility?

I guess if a woman didn't want her bits anymore she could transplant them over as well...

No, it's not possible, though it's a neat idea! The main reason is probably that the nerves wouldn't operate the same way. In all forms of SRS surgery, they preserve nerve function. The penis is turned inside out and becomes the vagina and the head becomes the clitoris, and for FTM the head is usually formed partly from the clitoris. Also, it might be difficult to donate a urethra, though I'm not sure about that. But mostly it is just much easier to work with what you've got - transplants, especially a woman's bits, just aren't possible. It's not quite as easy as Mr. Potato Head.

By the way, they construct the penis the same way for a biological man who has lost his penis due to deformity or accident.

You might want to google for pictures of the steps of a vaginoplasty...I have seen a series of pictures that shows step by step how they turn the penis into a vagina.

 

[Tymeless]

sorry my post were quick and not quite as informative as etoiles. i was tired when i posted but etoile hit it right on the spot!

 

[neonflux]

If you already know this, please excuse - it seems to me that the biggest difficulty with constructing a penis for someone who is FTM using current methods is that they cannot save enough of the nerve function to provide sensation allowing orgasm. Among my FTM friends, none has elected to get genital surgery. I find FTM "mini-dicks" very, very sexy - if I had a lover who was, would have a hard time not immediately wanting to go down on him everytime I saw him nude

From a friend's porno cover (did the graphics and web site):

http://img45.imagevenue.com/loc379/th_41518_trannydick_123_379lo.jpg

I just think that's too hot...

Of course, this is only mentioned as something to consider.

Neon

 

[neonflux]

OOPS! Sorry Etoile - should have read all the way down before posting - didn't realize that you'd provided the link.

 

[Etoile]

OOPS! Sorry Etoile - should have read all the way down before posting - didn't realize that you'd provided the link.

Quite all right! I agree, Buck is very hot, I assume that's the link you meant? What I really love is the refreshing HONESTY he displays. He says "this is who I am, these are the parts I've got, and that's the way it is." Several of my post-transition friends have left their former gender behind, destroying all pictures, etc. But he faces right up to who he used to be and isn't afraid of it. I have mixed feelings about how he exploits his uniqueness for money...it's a bit odd but at the same time educational for a lot of people who don't know anything about FTM's.

Now that I think of it, I don't think any of my FTM friends have had bottom surgery either! I know post-op trans women but not men. (Unless people have gotten it and I just don't know, which is possible - I'm not on genital-discussing terms with all of them!)

 

[naughtyinsilk]

I think one of the things this thread has shown, is the lack of education and accurate information in regards to transexuality.

Ultimately I dont think it matters with FTM or MTF which physical changes they do and dont undertake. What is important is that the mind gets the body that it is happy and at peace with. Self acceptance is in the end more an issue that has to be resolved rather than just acceptance by others.

 

[Etoile]

Ultimately I dont think it matters with FTM or MTF which physical changes they do and dont undertake. What is important is that the mind gets the body that it is happy and at peace with. Self acceptance is in the end more an issue that has to be resolved rather than just acceptance by others.

I do and don't agree with you. First, it's true that it doesn't matter what physical changes they do or don't undertake, as long as they are happy with their body. But self-acceptance is not necessarily as important to happiness as societal acceptance. A trans person might have acknowledged they are transgender, and wanted to take steps toward transition, but feel they must stay their birth gender because they'll lose their job, their family will kick them out, etc. if they come out as trans.

 

[naughtyinsilk]

I do and don't agree with you. First, it's true that it doesn't matter what physical changes they do or don't undertake, as long as they are happy with their body. But self-acceptance is not necessarily as important to happiness as societal acceptance. A trans person might have acknowledged they are transgender, and wanted to take steps toward transition, but feel they must stay their birth gender because they'll lose their job, their family will kick them out, etc. if they come out as trans.

Sorry, I need to clarify what I meant, what I was trying to say was, each TS is an individual and how much physical surgery etc they choose to take is a personal choice based on what they themselves feel is right for them.
By acceptance by others, what I meant was it is of no concern to a TS really whether other people feel that a FTM should or shouldnt have a penis, you dont have to have a prick to be a guy, you just need the physial attributes that match what is in your head.

As for a transgender person getting ostracised, that is a major hurdle, I would hope people would be more understanding but sadly its not happening yet, having been beside someone who has been through the whole process, I have a very good understanding of what it involves and all I can say that those that do go ahead, I have so much respect for, because in present society its about the hardest personal journey you can put yourself through.

 

[playwithlezli]

I do and don't agree with you. First, it's true that it doesn't matter what physical changes they do or don't undertake, as long as they are happy with their body. But self-acceptance is not necessarily as important to happiness as societal acceptance. A trans person might have acknowledged they are transgender, and wanted to take steps toward transition, but feel they must stay their birth gender because they'll lose their job, their family will kick them out, etc. if they come out as trans.

Etoile, I have to agree, that as much as it would be nice to say, it doesn't matter what society thinks, well, it does play a role.

Ultimately we are pack animals, and while we can push the boundaries a bit here and there, there is a price to pay.

You can lose a bit of yourself or a bit of your standing, or both. Sometimes, it is a lot to lose.

Can't say I have found an easy place to rest with the juggling act of keeping everyone happy, but I suppose that is life. Well, I should say, my girlfriend is having a tough time with the juggling and the acceptance, even though it has gone well. And because she struggles, I feel her pain.

If it is this tough for a couple of lesbians in Canada, who have been accepted by everyone so far, well, I can't even imagine being trans. For what it is worth to anyone struggling with issues today, here's some hugs, that;s about all I can offer.