SPOILER** Clerks II ** SPOILER

[perks]

so if you've seen it, let's talk about it here

 

[misterstonedfox]

YES!!!

So, what was yer favorite moment or scene?

 

[rimmy]

I haven't seen it but you're a total bitch for rubbing it in.

Thanks.

 

[perks]

I think I just loved the whole Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars thing, especially with the walking.

although, the whole whacked out pussy troll thing, was complete MONEY!

porchmonkey "I'm takin' it back" was pretty hysterical too. What a tool.

 

[perks]

I haven't seen it but you're a total bitch for rubbing it in.

Thanks.

keep reading this thread, and it will be ruined for you.

 

[misterstonedfox]

I haven't seen it but you're a total bitch for rubbing it in.

Thanks.

Neener neener NEE-ner!!!

 

[rimmy]

I'm not liiiiiiiistening.

 

[perks]

my 5 year old just woke up and told me to go to bed, so I'm off. post your favorite scenes.

 

[misterstonedfox]

I think I just loved the whole Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars thing, especially with the walking.

although, the whole whacked out pussy troll thing, was complete MONEY!

porchmonkey "I'm takin' it back" was pretty hysterical too. What a tool.

Yes, yes....all priceless....I guess I'm a total bitch for sentimentality (if that's even an actual term), but the whole "cover your ears" moment where Randall professes his (purely heterosexual, of course) love for Dante and begs him to stay really hit home...I totally identify. And, of course, the closing shot of the Quick Stop where it pans out and goes back to black and white gives me chills as I type this post (ever so slowly, mind you).......It damn near brought a tear to my eye, which isn't that hard to do....I know, I'm a total bitch......sorry.

 

[stonedfox]

Yes, yes....all priceless....I guess I'm a total bitch for sentimentality (if that's even an actual term), but the whole "cover your ears" moment where Randall professes his (purely heterosexual, of course) love for Dante and begs him to stay really hit home...I totally identify. And, of course, the closing shot of the Quick Stop where it pans out and goes back to black and white gives me chills as I type this post (ever so slowly, mind you).......It damn near brought a tear to my eye, which isn't that hard to do....I know, I'm a total bitch......sorry.

You are not a bitch, baby, you're just sensateev.

I loved the movie. I found it to be funny, but also heart warming. Not what I expected from Mr. Smith. As for my favorite parts, I really laughed at just about every scene "Elias" was in, especially when he exclaims "I'm sorry, Jesus!" while masturbating during the donkey show.

My only complaint is Schwalbach. I'm sorry, but that dog-faced crack whore has no business on a movie screen. She is so incredibly unattractive, I actually became nauseated after seeing her on the screen for longer than five minutes. I don't mind seeing his kid, Harley, in the movie because she's fucking adorable, but keep that raunchy wife at home in the kitchen, for the love of God!!

 

[perks]

You are not a bitch, baby, you're just sensateev.

I loved the movie. I found it to be funny, but also heart warming. Not what I expected from Mr. Smith. As for my favorite parts, I really laughed at just about every scene "Elias" was in, especially when he exclaims "I'm sorry, Jesus!" while masturbating during the donkey show.

My only complaint is Schwalbach. I'm sorry, but that dog-faced crack whore has no business on a movie screen. She is so incredibly unattractive, I actually became nauseated after seeing her on the screen for longer than five minutes. I don't mind seeing his kid, Harley, in the movie because she's fucking adorable, but keep that raunchy wife at home in the kitchen, for the love of God!!

I think Elias was the show stealer. His nuance was fantastic. He and Randall were the hits, seriously. I loved that scene that mister was talking about, because it's poignant to my life. It reminds me of The mand and our business partner. To a T. This movie is my life, I swear, except I'm not as cute as Rosaria, YUM.

 

[Drinking Cap]

Great movie. For someone for whom the original flick was a life changing experience, the sentimentality even hit home. Anyways, I think the biggest laugh in the whole movie was the Porch Monkey bit, especially when we saw what Randall had done to his uniform.

"Actually, she did once refer to a broken beer bottle as a 'nigger knife'. Come to think of it my grandma was a bit of a racist"

 

[Mr. Show]

Seriously and completely one of the funniest movies I've seen in a long time. Funnier than the 40-Year Old Virgin. Funnier than Old School.

Absolute my-fucking-throat-hurts funny.

Touching as well - in a non-gay totally macho way.

There were two senior citizens sitting two rows back of me - I thought they'd walked into the wrong theatre - but I looked back when Randal was 'taking it back' - and the old folks were laughing their asses off.

 

[kotori]

Stop! I still haven't seen "Clerks" one!

 

[Mr. Show]

Stop! I still haven't seen "Clerks" one!

It's called video - google and then get your butt out to a theatre.

Forgetting Clerks 1 - this sequel is more a movie about the inevitable decay of slackerdom, and the bitterness and confusion that comes from realizing it.

 

[cykeegb]

YOU live in Jersey!



Ahem.


I saw it, I'm glad everyone has liked it in here. Also glad that you guys enjoyed the sentimate. I am afraid his more vulgar fans will strike out.

 

[Mr. Show]

YOU live in Jersey!



Ahem.


I saw it, I'm glad everyone has liked it in here. Also glad that you guys enjoyed the sentimate. I am afraid his more vulgar fans will strike out.

Dude - it's got a donkey show and varying questions about ass to mouth - his more vulgar fans will understand - plus you know damn well that his most hardcore vulgarthoners are totally all squishy homo cry-bitches at heart.

 

[cykeegb]

Mr. Show, I completely agree, I'm sure thats why he wrote the donkey show in. However, the fanboys will complain about pretty much anything...and of course, they'll make sure what their friends think first.

 

[Mr. Show]

Mr. Show, I completely agree, I'm sure thats why he wrote the donkey show in. However, the fanboys will complain about pretty much anything...and of course, they'll make sure what their friends think first.

Those aren't fans - MagnoliaFan and Wampa1 are, as he said, sad pathetic little bastards.

I will say though - that this is surprisingly the most cinematic of Smith's films - surprising because it takes place essentially in one location. But most interesting is that for all intents and purposes - this is the exact same movie as Clerks 1 - the structure of the script - the emotional questions - the tone and feeling of the entire thing are almost exactly identical - However - instead of a funeral it's go-karts, instead of hockey it's dancing, instead of merely deciding who to love, it's about deciding HOW to love.

The two films together represent an fascinating examination of what happens when you ask the exact same questions - but separate them by 12 years - How are we different from those people we were back then - why is it that we are still asking ourselves the same questions - still living the same lives we were. I've gotten older - I make more money, from all superficial view-points my entire life has changed - but like Dante and Randal I still ask the same questions - I'm still living the same movie - and what Smith did brilliantly here is take that theme to its logical extension.

He made the same movie - but this movie is removed by time and experience. The real question is how those who looked at Clerks back then, and thought that it was speaking to them will feel when they look at Clerks 2 and have to admit that they are still being spoken to - only this time - unlike Clerks 1, which allowed its audience to accept that there are no easy answers - Clreks 2 allows for no such ducking and weaving - this sequel challenges in the simplest of terms by demanding resolution. And I don't know if a great deal of former and current slackers are comfortable with that.

 

[cykeegb]

Exactly!


Thank you for putting into words what I felt.

 

[Mr. Show]

Exactly!


Thank you for putting into words what I felt.

It took me the whole walk home to work out what it was that struck me so deeply about the ending - and the whole movie in general - and it finally came to me that I was watching two movies in there - the superficial and metaphoric. The superficial was hilarious and raucous and dirty and emotionally profound - but the metaphoric was bitter and angry and worried and confused - and the dichotomy of those two films coming together in one made think more about myself than the characters. I suppose that only works if this movie was a touchstone in your life - like Animal House, or the Breakfast Club - but unlike those movies the sort of egotistical self-importance of youth is laid bare in this sequel. If we saw a sequel to the Breakfast Club now, what would we see? Sad, down-trodden, broken individuals - married and working and living and never so bright as they were that one day in 1985 - but they were us. And like that non-existent sequel - this movie forces us to see that we will never be so bright and witty and sarcastic and perfectly jaded as we were in 1994.

 

[perks]

It took me the whole walk home to work out what it was that struck me so deeply about the ending - and the whole movie in general - and it finally came to me that I was watching two movies in there - the superficial and metaphoric. The superficial was hilarious and raucous and dirty and emotionally profound - but the metaphoric was bitter and angry and worried and confused - and the dichotomy of those two films coming together in one made think more about myself than the characters. I suppose that only works if this movie was a touchstone in your life - like Animal House, or the Breakfast Club - but unlike those movies the sort of egotistical self-importance of youth is laid bare in this sequel. If we saw a sequel to the Breakfast Club now, what would we see? Sad, down-trodden, broken individuals - married and working and living and never so bright as they were that one day in 1985 - but they were us. And like that non-existent sequel - this movie forces us to see that we will never be so bright and witty and sarcastic and perfectly jaded as we were in 1994.

excellent editorial. I'd read you weekly, if you ever got into being a critic.

 

[Mr. Show]

excellent editorial. I'd read you weekly, if you ever got into being a critic.

I was a critic for a while - turned out it sucks-ass. Critics are nothing more than bitter film nerds looking for a band-wagon to jump on, or a dead horse to beat.

 

[perks]

I was a critic for a while - turned out it sucks-ass. Critics are nothing more than bitter film nerds looking for a band-wagon to jump on, or a dead horse to beat.

but you do it with excellent writing.

 

[cykeegb]

Ah, bitter film nerds.


I hate them.