Southern Spelling help

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So what is the correct spelling of the southerners term for a northerner?

Damn-Yankee
damn-Yankee
damnyankee
Damn Yankee
Damn yankee

or is it just "yankee" with the damn only appearing in the pronounciation?
 
Being from the south, if I were to write it, it would be damn Yankee. But that's just me. Other beaux and belles may have differing ideas.
 
only_more_so said:
So what is the correct spelling of the southerners term for a northerner?

Damn-Yankee
damn-Yankee
damnyankee
Damn Yankee
Damn yankee

or is it just "yankee" with the damn only appearing in the pronounciation?
"cracker" is good too! Having lived in the south for many a year, I really haven't heard the phrase "Damned Yankee" used by anyone from the south. I have heard "Yankee Cracker" used and just plain "Cracker".

Hope this helps.
 
Zeb_Carter said:
"cracker" is good too! Having lived in the south for many a year, I really haven't heard the phrase "Damned Yankee" used by anyone from the south. I have heard "Yankee Cracker" used and just plain "Cracker".

Hope this helps.

I've never heard "yankee cracker."

I have, however, heard "damn yankee."
 
cloudy said:
I've never heard "yankee cracker."

I have, however, heard "damn yankee."
Different parts of the south, there's Alabama south and Georgia south. I have heard both used by true southerners.
 
Zeb_Carter said:
Different parts of the south, there's Alabama south and Georgia south. I have heard both used by true southerners.

and I've lived in both, as well as Mississippi, Tennessee, and North Carolina.

True Southerner? My family goes back as far as you wish to go in the South. I'm Choctaw. That makes me a "true southerner."
 
Zeb_Carter said:
Different parts of the south, there's Alabama south and Georgia south. I have heard both used by true southerners.

*grins*Cracker must not have made it to AR, LA areas where I was at as a name for a yankee. I've never heard of it used that way either but I've had it used against me by a guy at University. It was their term for white.

We said yank a lot or yankee and only used damn yankee when pissed off at one. Now go figure thats what is said about me in the UK. :rolleyes:
 
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Damn yankee is fine. But it's usually said by someone holding a double barrel shotgun (the side by side type). Shoes are optional.
 
Im from Tenn, which I know is more a border state, and not cotton state like Miss, Ala, or GA, but whenever I heard it it was always Damn Yankee...actually usually more like DAMN YANKEE! LOL. Ive heard cracker used alot since I moved out of the south...just check out my location. Even after not having lived in the south for 30 yrs next year, I still have a pretty good southern accent that gets commented on alot. Ah to be in Dixie again......

Jomar, would you believe we even wore shoes AND had indoor plumbing?
 
sutherngent985 said:
Jomar, would you believe we even wore shoes AND had indoor plumbing?

I do! But the refrigerator next to the sofa on the front porch still doesn't work. :)
 
cloudy said:
I've never heard "yankee cracker."

I have, however, heard "damn yankee."

I always thought cracker was a term for white people, I didn't know it had any geographic meaning.
 
I recall Colleen saying she was thirteen before she discovered 'damn yankee' was two words.

Ow. :(
 
only_more_so said:
I always thought cracker was a term for white people, I didn't know it had any geographic meaning.

just so.

Southerners don't use the word "cracker." At least none that I've ever heard, and I've lived here for the past 28 years. My family is a very old, prestigious Southern family, with great-greats fighting for the Confederacy.
 
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FYI...
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"Cracker", sometimes "white cracker", is a usually pejorative term for a white person, mainly used in the Southern United States, but in recent decades it has entered common usage throughout the United States.

[edit] Usage

The term "cracker" was and is used most frequently in the Southern U.S., especially in Georgia and Florida. Since the 1870s, a nickname for Georgia is "The Cracker State".

Usage of the term "cracker" generally differs from "hick" and "hillbilly" because crackers reject or resist assimilation into the dominant culture, while hicks and hillbillies theoretically are isolated from the dominant culture. In this way, cracker culture is similar to redneck culture. [1]

"Cracker" has also been used as a proud or jocular self-description. With the huge influx of new residents from the North, "cracker" is now used informally by some white residents of Florida and Georgia ("Florida cracker" or "Georgia cracker") to indicate that their family has lived there for many generations. However, the term "white cracker" is not always used self-referentially and remains a racist term to many in the region.[2]
 
Zeb_Carter said:

Zeb, I don't care where you look whatever up. In 28 years, I've never heard it used. I've heard others call southerners "crackers," but it's just not used here.

You can trust Wiki (which is written by users, btw, and so is not to be taken as a completely trustworthy reference), or you can trust what someone says who lives here, and who's family has been here since, well, forever. :rolleyes:

(and you said "yankee cracker")

I know you love to argue with me, but in this, darlin', you don't have a leg to stand on.
 
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rgraham666 said:
I recall Colleen saying she was thirteen before she discovered 'damn yankee' was two words.

Ow. :(

An old joke, that is really not a joke. Many southerners invariabley use the term 'damnyankee' at least among themselves.
 
R. Richard said:
An old joke, that is really not a joke. Many southerners invariabley use the term 'damnyankee' at least among themselves.

Indeed.

And it wasn't "the Civil War;" it was "the War of Northern Aggression."

;)
 
cloudy said:
Zeb, I don't care where you look whatever up. In 28 years, I've never heard it used. I've heard others call southerners "crackers," but it's just not used here.

Cloudy:
'Cracker' is short for 'soda cracker.' It was originally a mildly pejoritive term used by Negros to describe Caucasians. Like many other pejoritive terms, it is sometimes used humerously by white trash to describe themselves, but only among themselves. A specific example was a man who played well some rather complicated 'fiddle music' at a backwoods gathering and then said, "Not bad music for a damn cracker!" The obvious implcation being that only Negoes [that would not have been the exact term he used] could really play music.

In the modern South, the term cracker is not much used, having been replaced by 'redneck.' Among Negros, the term is usually rendered, 'neck.'

If you really want to keep current in 'southren' dialect, you need to go to social events held in the woods where they throw a couple of chickens, with spikes strapped to the chicken's legs, in a pit and the chickens try to kill each other. [I have no idea why they throw the chickens in the pit or why the chickens try to kill each others.] Concurrently with the chicken in the pit thing, they usually have a 'North Carolina Dominoes' tournament. I don't really like to gamble, but when the dice are in my hands, it is not gambling.
 
R. Richard said:
Cloudy:
'Cracker' is short for 'soda cracker.' It was originally a mildly pejoritive term used by Negros to describe Caucasians. Like many other pejoritive terms, it is sometimes used humerously by white trash to describe themselves, but only among themselves. A specific example was a man who played well some rather complicated 'fiddle music' at a backwoods gathering and then said, "Not bad music for a damn cracker!" The obvious implcation being that only Negoes [that would not have been the exact term he used] could really play music.

In the modern South, the term cracker is not much used, having been replaced by 'redneck.' Among Negros, the term is usually rendered, 'neck.'

If you really want to keep current in 'southren' dialect, you need to go to social events held in the woods where they throw a couple of chickens, with spikes strapped to the chicken's legs, in a pit and the chickens try to kill each other. [I have no idea why they throw the chickens in the pit or why the chickens try to kill each others.] Concurrently with the chicken in the pit thing, they usually have a 'North Carolina Dominoes' tournament. I don't really like to gamble, but when the dice are in my hands, it is not gambling.

Your stereotypes are showing. Chicken fighting still goes on, of course, but not with the regularity you assume.

I'm not sure how I couldn't keep current with southern dialect, since I've been living here for the past 28 years. :rolleyes:
 
R. Richard said:
If you really want to keep current in 'southren' dialect, you need to go to social events held in the woods where they throw a couple of chickens, with spikes strapped to the chicken's legs, in a pit and the chickens try to kill each other. [I have no idea why they throw the chickens in the pit or why the chickens try to kill each others.] Concurrently with the chicken in the pit thing, they usually have a 'North Carolina Dominoes' tournament. I don't really like to gamble, but when the dice are in my hands, it is not gambling.

RR, this is Literotica! How in the world did you refrain from saying (drum roll) COCK FIGHTING??? :p
 
cloudy said:
I'm not sure how I couldn't keep current with southern dialect, since I've been living here for the past 28 years. :rolleyes:
I've a question. I'm from California. Am I a Yankee? It's not a Northern State, it's a Western State. And what about people from places that were made states *after* the Civil war? Are you a Yankee if you're from Hawaii? :confused:
 
cloudy said:
Zeb, I don't care where you look whatever up. In 28 years, I've never heard it used. I've heard others call southerners "crackers," but it's just not used here.

You can trust Wiki (which is written by users, btw, and so is not to be taken as a completely trustworthy reference), or you can trust what someone says who lives here, and who's family has been here since, well, forever. :rolleyes:

(and you said "yankee cracker")

I know you love to argue with me, but in this, darlin', you don't have a leg to stand on.
Hmmm....
Crackers

The epithet cracker has been applied in a derogatory way, like redneck, to rural, non-elite white southerners,
From A Short History of Georgia, by E. M. Coulter
Crackers
more specifically to those of south Georgia and north Florida. Folk etymology claims the term originated either from their cracking, or pounding, of corn (rather than taking it to mill), or from their use of whips to drive cattle. The latter explanation makes sense, because in piney-woods Georgia and Florida pastoral yeomen did use bullwhips with "cracker" tips to herd cattle.

The true history of the name, however, is more involved and shows a shift in application over time. Linguists now believe the original root to be the Gaelic craic, still used in Ireland (anglicized in spelling to crack) for "entertaining conversation." The English meaning of cracker as a braggart appears by Elizabethan times, as, for example, in Shakespeare's King John (1595): "What cracker is this . . . that deafes our ears / With this abundance of superfluous breath?"

By the 1760s the English, both at home and in colonial America, were applying the term to Scots-Irish settlers of the southern backcountry,
From Harper's New Monthly
Crackers
as in this passage from a letter to the earl of Dartmouth: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode." The word then came to be associated with the cowboys of Georgia and Florida, many of them descendants of those early frontiersmen.

Cracker Culture: Celtic Ways in the Old South, by Grady McWhiney
Crackers
Among African Americans cracker became a contemptuous term for a white southerner; among some southern whites it has become a label of ethnic and regional pride, boosted by the election of south Georgian Jimmy Carter to the presidency in 1976. This led to the coining of the word crackertude as a not entirely serious answer to negritude.

Suggested Reading

Kay L. Cothran, "Talking Trash in the Okefenokee Swamp Rim, Georgia," in Readings in American Folklore, ed. Jan H. Brunvand (New York: Norton, 1979).

Grady McWhiney, Cracker Culture: Celtic Ways in the Old South (Tuscaloosa: University of Alabama Press, 1988).

John Solomon Otto, "Cracker: The History of a Southeastern Ethnic, Economic, and Racial Epithet," Names 35 (1987): 28-39.

Delma E. Presley, "The Crackers of Georgia," Georgia Historical Quarterly 60 (summer 1976): 102-16.

John A. Burrison, Georgia State University
 
cloudy said:
Indeed.

And it wasn't "the Civil War;" it was "the War of Northern Aggression."

;)

Because there was nothing "civil" about it :)

That was one of my mom's favorites. She was also the one who told me "damn yankee" was one word.

BTW, I didn't expect this simple question to open such a big debate. Should have known better.
 
3113 said:
I've a question. I'm from California. Am I a Yankee? It's not a Northern State, it's a Western State. And what about people from places that were made states *after* the Civil war? Are you a Yankee if you're from Hawaii? :confused:

Nope, you're not a yankee. :)
 
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