Sounding....Anyone here do it?

baldbull said:
Just saw on website.....Thinking of trying :rolleyes:
I love it and have been doing it for over 7 sears now.

Before you start do your homework and make sure you know the risks, and how to avoid getting dirty little "things" iinside that can make you very sick. It is well worth learning how to play and take care of your equipment.

If you have any questions ask away....

What about it do you find interesting?

Shank
 
baldbull said:
Wife works my ass for me and was looking for something new. Does it feel that much better? Do you cum with it in there? Have you ever hurt yourself? :devil:

Ass play and sounds play give me totally different feelings. I experience the insertion of sounds as intense sensation - sometimes requiring slow going to allow the sensation to lower before continuing. Once the sound has been inserted for a few moments it does become very pleasurable. There is also interesting feelings of having something deep inside my body that is a bit like being fisted but not at all the same.

It is not safe to cum with a large sized sound in place. I have a custom made "wand" that I can have in while I cum as it is hollow. This link will take you to a post I made with links to pics of my wand

https://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=20472438&postcount=19


The first time I played with sounds by myself I got a little aggressive and tore something, I bled a little in my pee for two days. Thank goodness I have kept everything sanitized and did not pick up an infection. That would be a real big problem. I have written up some info about safe play with sounds and will find and post it if you are interested. Oh, one other thing - when you first start playing with sounds expect your pee to burn every time you go tinkle for about two days. Once everything inside gets accustomed to the sounds you probably will stop the burning. I sorts like it myself, but then, well, that is just me.
 
I am just going to go ahead and post this now just for the hell of it.

This ling will take you to some pics of my using a sound.

https://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=20421299&postcount=2798
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I have been asked several questions about sounds play. I decided to post this in hopes it can be a good starting place for interested people to do research before starting with insertion play. No doubt there are other opinions and experiences. Please, add to the discussion. I offer this and say “Your Mileage May Vary” and “Play Safe”

At the direction of Kaye Buckley in San Francisco, I created this from several sources and my own experience. It was used for her class at QSM: “Pushing Limits with Creative Phallic Play”
URETHRA INSERTION PLAY

Over the past several years I have learned a few things about play involving the placement of “things” in a cock, well actually I have unselfishly volunteered my own cock as the testing ground. This outlines some of the things I have found out. Please know that I am not in any way a trained medical professional.

THE TURN ON

As a source of exceptional sexual stimulation, sounds can be a wonderful edge play toy. The thought of something going IN a cock is a real mind fuck. The feel is exquisite and nearly indescribable. There is some discomfort, a little stinging, but there is also sensation in parts of the body normally unfelt, sensations that can be very sexual, sensations that feel like they are at the very depth of my being. As a self-play toy, manipulating sounds in my cock allow for very subtle but profound sensations. In the hands of someone else, they bring a profound sense of trust and surrender of control to the play. Sounds can be a wonderful “power exchange” tool, especially if the owner of the cock it tied down. There is "something" about seeing a sound being put if your cock that adds to the experience.

Using sounds the size of the urethra is considered sensation play. When you start stretching the urethra the sensation changes considerably and can be considered pain play.

THE RISKS

Anything going into the urethra has the potential of being very dangerous if there is contamination. Bacteria can cause severe infection of the bladder and can ultimately affect the kidneys. Other infections can also be difficult to clear up and require medical attention.

The urethra can be bruised, scraped and/or punctured. Internal organ such as the prostrate and/or the bladder can be damager. Item that are too small (short) can be lost and require emergency room attention.

SAFETY GUIDELINES
Be sure everything you use for urethral insertion play is clean – sterile if possible. NEVER USE an un-sterilized item to enter the bladder. There is some controversy about the level of cleanliness required for this sort of play. I have found references to three levels of cleanliness. Inform yourself about all levels before you decide how to handle your own sounds play.

1.It is optimum to have the sounds sterilized in an autoclave.

2. Next best is to use a pressure cooker. (On the Safe Edge by Trevor Jacques outlines a system that works at home) Here is my take on that system.
Clean and wash all instruments carefully before sterilizing them. This is especially true if your instruments have been used on someone before. Use lots of detergent, water, and bleach. If these are contaminated items, wear latex gloves as you handle them. The steam under pressure raises the temperature in the sterilization chamber to kill all pathogens. The killing process is a function of Time and Pressure. Pressure Cookers reach a temperature of 250o F or 121o C at a pressure of 15 pounds and requires 30 minutes for the process to be effective.
This article will only deal with pressure cookers for the sterilization of steel instruments or other not heat sensitive items. Do not try to sterilize latex items or liquids. Pick a pressure cooker of sufficient size to hold the instruments you wish to use. If you are using sounds and/or dilators the pressure cooker should have an inside diameter of at least 12 inches.

Put your instruments in the pressure cooker, sterilize them, let them cool and use them right out of the pressure cooker.

A pressure cooker does not have a drying cycle! If you wish to package your instruments for later use after sterilization, they must be dry before you can safely handle them without contaminating them. For this process before placing the sounds in the pressure cooker, after cleaning them as outlined above, I place them inside two small paper bags – one bag inside the other bag and wrap them closed. I have found a little masking tape works well. Wrapped now so that no part of the sound is exposed I place them in the pressure cooker and follow regular instructions. Once cooking is finished, using tongs, I remove the wet bags being careful not to open them in any way. The bags are places on an over rack in a 250 deg oven for about 2 hours. This should completely dry them out. As long as the bag in not torn, once cooled this can be placed in a plastic bag for future use.

3. Some suggest that if the sounds are only for one persons play they can be safely washed with hot water and detergent, followed by 30 minuets of vigorous boiling. They should be then wrapped in a sterilized wrapping and stored away from contaminants.

Be sure to wash the head on the cock with alcohol and wear latex gloves.

Expect your first piss after play to sting, if fact after my first play I stung for a full day. I sorta look forward to it now. If you see a little blood, STOP. If you are still seeing blood in a day or so go to the doctor. If you see allot of blood go to the doctor NOW and tell them exactly what you were doing.

Do not mix ass play with sounds play. Little things that are fine in your ass play havoc in your cock. Be very careful about cross contamination.

Do not use lube that has been used in any sort of other play, even your own. Lube can be easily contaminated while being used. Use water-based sterile lube to aid urethra insertion play. DO NOT use lubes that contain nonoxynol-9 or any flavored lubes.

DO NOT masturbate with the sound inserted. There are a lot of nerves in the urethra canal that can be damaged. (open to much discussion)

The broadest guideline is to go slowly until you know how much you can take. Not only can you do considerable damage if you try and force it in - you just plain will *not* enjoy it.

Sounds are made of metal and are unforgiving. When you introduce a sound into the urethra, you are dealing with soft tissues and therefore the tissues move around to accommodate the sound. ONLY use smooth blunt items. NEVER use wood, glass or plastic items. Only use items that have rounded ends. Do not use items that are very thin or pointed.

Do not insert anything into a bound or tied cock.

Never try to insert or remove a curved sound when the cock is hard. Start all sounds play with a limp cock.

If you encounter a blockage, DO NOT attempt to push past it. Once you reach the bladder, the sound will stop. Other blockages could be scar tissue.

Start with a sound the SAME size as the urethra opening and gradually work up in size. As the size increases your urethra will dilate somewhat. It should return to normal in a little while. Just be aware that the longer you leave it in the longer it will take to return to it's original size.

GENERAL INFORMATION

Sounds (also called Uterine Dilators) are metal rods used in the medical community to dilate urethras. Urethral sounds are manufactured for the sole purpose of opening urethral strictures which can develop for a variety of reasons from just plain old age to scar tissue. They come in carefully metered graduated sizes. Hegars and Pratts are designed for medical use on women, Dittels and Van Burens are designed for medical use on men.

Several styles are used in D/S S/M play. There is conflicting information about what the styles are called that are sold by Mr. S Leather in San Francisco, CA (415-863-7798) and LeatherMaters in San Jose, CA (408-293-7660) for about $20.00 at each. I found a surgical supply firm that was willing to copy several pages from medical catalogues and they are attached - this information will clarify the names of the different styles. There are also many web site now offering sounds.

The most commonly sold sounds are Hegar Uterine Dilators. They are 7 1/2” long, have a gentle “S” curve to them, and are two sized - that is, each Hegar has one half that is larger than the other half. I started with a 5-6. It is about the size of a small diameter drinking straw, the next size I got was a 7-8, about the size of a large drinking straw. I am now wording on the 9-10, the 9 is a nice fit - can’t do 10 yet. The 17-18 is thumb sized and I can’t even look at it (well, at least not for long). Pratts are longer and straighter than Hegars and are starting to show up in some stores. I have my own set of Pratts now and prefer them to Hegars. They are heavier and go farther into my body.

Hegars and Pratts can be inserted in an erect cock.

I have also had some experience with Van Burens. They are 11” long with a flat handle on one end, and a 90 degree bend at the inserting end. They are for going all the way to the bladder and cannot be inserted in an erect cock. They come in 17 sizes - 8,10,12,14........40. Some are tapered all the way up, some get to “size” soon and stay the same size the rest of the way. A 22 Van Buren is about the diameter of a 7 Hegar. The buzz using the Van Buren is going through the prostrate and up to the bladder. They are not to be played with without great caution!

Dittels are rather like Van Burens without the bend in the end. I have no experience with Dittels but they appear to be able to work with an erect cock.

Actually Hegars and Pratts are called dilators. Hegar sizes are marked as 3-4mm, 5-6mm, etc. Van Burens and Dittels are called sounds. Pratts, Van Burens and Dittels are marked as 8Fr, 10Fr, etc (Fr refers to French). Most leather stores call them all sounds.
 
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Way to go Shank! What an outstanding post.

I have done a little bit of sounding play, and I know one or two other women on Lit who have, but for some reason nobody who posts about sounding ever seems to be looking for a response from the female perspective... :(
 
Etoile said:
Way to go Shank! What an outstanding post.

I have done a little bit of sounding play, and I know one or two other women on Lit who have, but for some reason nobody who posts about sounding ever seems to be looking for a response from the female perspective... :(

I know of a few that are interested but have yet to ask in a post to a thread. I also encourage you to ask here when you are ready.
 
The group of people that I got to play with last Saturday has a set and she wants to try this on me but electrified. As things go I would try this before some of the other stuff that people want to do with me.

Shank I did a quick glance at your long post my question is after you clean them how do you maintain that level?? Your going to take them out of that environment and then they are back to dirty again. When I saw this done I think they used something in the space to re sterilize them. Just a few questions because I will probly end up doing this even though when you showed us pics from that weekend I was like no way.
 
leeroy jenkins said:
The group of people that I got to play with last Saturday has a set and she wants to try this on me but electrified. As things go I would try this before some of the other stuff that people want to do with me.

Shank I did a quick glance at your long post my question is after you clean them how do you maintain that level?? Your going to take them out of that environment and then they are back to dirty again. When I saw this done I think they used something in the space to re sterilize them. Just a few questions because I will probly end up doing this even though when you showed us pics from that weekend I was like no way.

They may have an autoclave and use special material that seals them in material while they are being sanitized - the same way professionals piercers and your doctors do. If one uses the pressure cooker / paper bag system I outline in that long post just leave then in the bag. I only uses mine on me and after I boil them I wrap them in paper towels - mine are not sterile but I have learned how to reduce the chances of contamination to the point I feel the risk in infection has been minimized.

I suggest you take time to read that post all the way through before you go next time. Have fun, and don't worry - you pee will not burn forever - hee hee.

and stories - we want stories afterwards!!!!
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As this doesn't sound like something you can do while "learning as you go," what are some resources for inserting into female urethras, also catheterization in both males and females. Any advice appreciated.
 
i haven't done any research about this so i don't really know anything about it but it looks very painful. That doesn't seem to be the case though. All i can think about is how painful it was for my dad to have a catheter in him for medical purposes. What is the difference?
 
Shankara20 said:
I know of a few that are interested but have yet to ask in a post to a thread. I also encourage you to ask here when you are ready.
Erm...I'm confused. You know I've already done self-sounding, right? And you remember that I did post a thread at the time about female sounding? I got a few responses but not many, but I wasn't really planning to ask again. :confused:
 
Hey this is convenient, I was just thinking about including sounding in the story I'm working on and need to research it. :)
 
buxxxom said:
As this doesn't sound like something you can do while "learning as you go," what are some resources for inserting into female urethras, also catheterization in both males and females. Any advice appreciated.
That's the problem, there are very few resources for female sounding. VERY few. When I tried it, I looked everywhere...I found a ton of resources about male sounding, and next to nothing about female sounding, especially not in a sexual context. One very important thing I did learn was that the male urethra is about 8" long on average, but the female urethra is only 1-1.5" long. So basically, you can't go sticking a whole sound up there...there's nowhere for it to GO.

I think there are multiple reasons why resources on female sounding are few and far between. For one thing, ours is an innie - we don't see the entrance to our urethra all the time like men do, so there's less random inspiration to play with it. It's also somewhat riskier for women, primarily because the urethra is so much shorter, making it easier to do damage. Women are also much more prone to UTI's, so for many women the idea of sticking things up there is rather alarming! And also, I suspect it's a self-perpetuating issue...guys are the ones who do sounding, so there's info out there for it, and women like me who want to get into it find few resources so they may give up.

I don't remember exact numbers, but there are at least 5-10 times as many male sounding pictures on BMEzine.com as there are female sounding pictures. I'm pleased to be in that second set though!

I may drop a note to the two women on Lit I believe have experience with sounding - hopefully they will know far more than me and have more insight. :)
 
Etoile said:
Erm...I'm confused. You know I've already done self-sounding, right? And you remember that I did post a thread at the time about female sounding? I got a few responses but not many, but I wasn't really planning to ask again. :confused:

sorry - I was not clear in the way I worded that post. I hope I can encourage a few others I know of to post some questions or information.

I do know about that little kink of your Etoile, yes I do. :D


Shank
 
Kailey_86 said:
i haven't done any research about this so i don't really know anything about it but it looks very painful. That doesn't seem to be the case though. All i can think about is how painful it was for my dad to have a catheter in him for medical purposes. What is the difference?

I think it might be about "set and setting" that is to say why it is being done, where it is taking place, the frame of mind of the inserter and the frame of mind of the receiver. I think I might get hard having a play partner insert a catheter, but I would not want that to happen at the Dr's office.

I had never heard of sounding when a Domme did it to me while I was tied down. It freaked me out for weeks afterwards. Then I wanted more – sick puppy that I am, I am.

I love to have my ass played with - but I am not fond of seeing my Proctologist for an exam. Go figure.
 
I love sounds...the sounds that My slave and submissives make when I insert the custom made urethal sounds and twist them upon entry and exit so that the special edges can work their magic. I love the sounds they make when I add electricity with the ErosTek or the double pronged monster. The whimpers and moans that can turn to screams of endurance...ummm hmm I can be moody!

I love the sounds they make when I use the pocket rocket along the shaft tapping the urethal sound that looks so stiff and unyielding through the taut skin.

I love the sounds they make as they ejaculate through the hollow urethal sound...agony and disbelief!
 
Shankara20 said:
sorry - I was not clear in the way I worded that post. I hope I can encourage a few others I know of to post some questions or information.

I do know about that little kink of your Etoile, yes I do. :D


Shank
Oh THAT "you"! Now I get it! LOL.

It's funny...I'm still interested in sounding, but I'm not keen on trying it again anytime soon, at least not by myself. I am highly prone to UTI's, so sticking stuff up there probably isn't a good idea. And if I'm going to accept the consequences and do it anyway, then I want to share it with someone! Actually, any kind of rough penetrative sex is like that for me - oh well, enjoy now, deal with UTI later! But damn, when that UTI hits, I'm wondering why the hell I got myself into that situation...
 
All right -

- how can any kinky woman hide behind her embarrassment when there are women like Etoile around? :)

I'm interested in trying this - have never done it. Have not discussed it with my significant other yet - this would be edgier than most things we've done.

But I'm so curious - Etoile can you tell me what it felt like, for a woman? And did you find any information online that you might direct me to?

Thanks. :) And thanks to Shankara for the little elbow in the ribs. Needed that.
 
Thanks for your reply, Etoile. I'll be checking back frequently to see if anything becomes available. I always enjoy reading your posts; you seem to have great insight straight into the heart of the matter.
 
Shankara20 said:
Sounds are made of metal and are unforgiving. When you introduce a sound into the urethra, you are dealing with soft tissues and therefore the tissues move around to accommodate the sound. ONLY use smooth blunt items. NEVER use wood, glass or plastic items. Only use items that have rounded ends. Do not use items that are very thin or pointed.

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please use sounds... I was walking through the ER on day while doing a Clinical and the big buzz was the man who came in with a 10 foot phone cord in his bladder and no idea how it got there. :rolleyes: A Urologists nightmare lol
 
Agincourt said:
please use sounds... I was walking through the ER on day while doing a Clinical and the big buzz was the man who came in with a 10 foot phone cord in his bladder and no idea how it got there. :rolleyes: A Urologists nightmare lol
Oh dear - one of the things that the internet has been usefull for is access to information that should help prevent exactly this sort of thing from taking place, if a guy would only check it out first.

on the other hand someone sees a phots and then states "hell, I can do that"

I fully understand the urge to put things up and in every place you can on a body - I had a screen name for years that was "Upmine" -
but for crying out loud - some of us guy are just bumb....

light bulbs up the ass? A fist, yes!
phone cords up the cock? A stainless steel sound, yes!



:cool:
 
save_marla said:
- how can any kinky woman hide behind her embarrassment when there are women like Etoile around? :)

I'm interested in trying this - have never done it. Have not discussed it with my significant other yet - this would be edgier than most things we've done.

But I'm so curious - Etoile can you tell me what it felt like, for a woman? And did you find any information online that you might direct me to?

Thanks. :) And thanks to Shankara for the little elbow in the ribs. Needed that.
Aw, thanks! :D

It felt painful going in at first, like a pinching, but then when I slid it past a certain point it didn't hurt anymore and I could move it in and out but only past that point. It hurt again once I pulled it back past the painful point, and then when I reinserted it I got back past that point again and it was fine again. It really wasn't particularly erotic, maybe because this was my first time? I tried playing with myself a little bit but I just wasn't aroused sexually at the time. (I was enjoying the adrenaline rush of doing something new, but it wasn't sexy.)

There really is almost nothing online about it. If you have a BMEzine and/or a BMEvideo membership, you can see pictures and video of female sounding, but there is nothing about female sounding on the web that isn't from a medical (urology) perspective. If somebody could prove me wrong I'd be very appreciative, but I just don't think it's out there!

Oh, and as for using household objects, I used the non-hooked end of a filet crochet hook, the kind used to make lace doilies with thread. I washed it with hot water and soap beforehand, though I didn't really sterilize it properly.
 
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