Song Lyrics

[Liar]

Or, as I'd like to call it, Form-ish Poetry.

It's liberating really. You do have to follow a certain structure, but you can make up a new one as you go along. Meter is paramount, but follows an entire alien logic if you're used to think in iambs and stuff. Rhyme is more in the hands (or lips) of the performer than you, and content can steer off in silly directions, and still make sense in the light of the musical backdrop and the performance.

Anyone writes it? Any thoughts on it that sounds less reefer influenced than mine?

Or is it considered a lesser form of art for you poetizers?

 

[Rumpleteazer]

no no

your entirely right

the lyrics don't really exist independently of the music

good music can make weak lyrics better

 

[Liar]

Not sure if that's what I meant. Some poetry is written to be recited. Song lyrics is poetry written to be sung. If the first works on paper, so does the second. And I more often find that weak lyrics spoil good music than good music saves weak lyrics.

Although, I must admit, there's a lot of weak lyrics out there, that people seems to swallow whole anyway. So maybe I'm odd there.

But thanx for your input.

 

[The_Fool]

Music. Has as many or more definitions as poetry. Lyrics, ditto. Sometimes music exists to give rhythm to the lyrics. Sometimes lyrics are simply a complement or supplement to the rhythm and the music. Difficult to see strong emotional content in dance tunes, but consider gospel or folk music without the lyrical content.

I was thinking about this when I was talking about word repetition for the fool's rools thread. Specifically how music offers repetitive phrases with refrains to drive the content home with deliberate repetition of a key lyrical and musical phrase. To me this is a digression from poetry with the typical need to minimalize.

 

[Rumpleteazer]

so

so uh becuase of the repetition you think its spoiled as good poetry?