Something that has been bugging me for some time.

[galaxygoddess]

In 1981, John Walsh's son, Adam was abducted from a Sears. They only found the boy's severed head, and the case was never solved. From that moment on, John walsh busted his ass day in and day out to do what he could for missing children, he did what he could for vitcims and families for 20 some odd years.

This man has done everything he could in the memory of his lost child since before I was even born. When a child went missing it was a "code adam". For YEARS.

Now, it's suddenly Amber alert because of an 8 year old girl.

I am not discounting the tragedy that befell this poor little girl, just as I would not discount the tragedy that happened to ANY body. Nor am I discounting the pain and grief Amber's family felt, or anything they may have done over the past 10 or so years.

But it bothers me, that after all John Walsh has done, the main thing that keep the story of his son in everyone's mind the main child who's gruesome tragedy started everything we have for child protection, has just been cast aside for... dare I say it? A cuter, more recent child? Is that it?

Is these two children, with how many children in the past god knows how long have been kidnapped, raped, tortured or murdered, the most important children out there? Nay. I know John Walsh deserves all the recognition he can get. This man turned his tragedy into hope for children everywhere, with Missing Children Act of 1982 and the Missing Children's Assistance Act of 1984 and many other organization and laws he has helped put into action.


To me it just feels like this "amber alert" is a slap to his face, to what all he has done, and to the memory of his child. This just bugs the crap out of me. I'm sorry it that offends anyone but it's the truth.

 

[Boxlicker101]

The Amber alert is a new tool to help rescue abducted children and, hopefully, to deter their abducters. It enlists the aid of people to be on the lookout for specific vehicles, or children matching certain descriptions. I am sure John Walsh would be praising it, because it has already aided in the rescue of some children. "Amber alert" is a good name, because it combines the name of a child and a color.

"Jessica's Law" is a law that many states have passed, and it was named after a little girl who was raped and murdered in Florida. Naming things such as Amber Alert and Jesica's Law after victims is a good idea, because it personalizes them, and makes legislatures more likely to pass or enact them.

Certainlym, anything that helps solve or eliminate such tragedies or apprehends perpetrators is something we can all get behind.

 

[tickledkitty]

Well, it's not a contest. I'm sure John Walsh doesn't feel the least bit slighted or feel that every missing children's organization should be named after his child until the end of time. Isn't the Amber Alert named so because that was the first time it was used? It really had nothing to do with Adam Walsh or who is cuter.

 

[galaxygoddess]

True true. Ever since I can remember it has been "Code Adam". On TV in the store, "code Adam". Then without explination (I actually had to look up who it was named after) it's suddenly "Amber Alert" and ever since I was really little I heard "Code Adam" and knew what it was because we'd been told "about" it in school (not too much detail, but this is why we need to be careful around strangers) and then my mom had explained it to me in detail.

And then recently, it's suddenly "Amber alert" and I think "what about all john walsh did, what about his child?" and it bothers me.

 

[S-Des]

It's called an Amber alert because it's named after the little girl who's life could have been saved if the alert had been in place when she was abducted (which is why they got it passed everywhere). Adam Walsh disappeared and no one ever had a clue how, or if it could have been prevented. I've never heard it called a "Code Adam" alert, but can tell you for sure that it was never called that here.

 

[Liar]

Semantically speaking, this is how we humans roll. A phrase can only occupy the same area of meaning for so long, before the impact of it fades, and it either take on a new meaning, or something happens to nevew it's actuality, or it is replaced by a newly coined phrase with a more recent emotional impact in the public's eye.

Even common words make this journey. "Gay" went from merry to flamboyant to just generally homosexual in less than fifty years. The semantic shift of "terrorist" and the semantic near-death of "guerilla" in just this decade is remarkable. (Not nessecarily in the dictionary, mind you, but in the actual use of the words in the media and everyday speak.)

 

[elsol]

Amber is a person?!?

I thought it was all part of the Bush 'special coded terrorist' alert thing... and that Amber was a color. Kinda between yellow and red!

....

Don't ask! I'm really that fucking oblivious about some shit.

 

[Guest]

They are different things.

A "Code Adam" happens at Walmarts and other stores. It is a signal that, once given over the intercom system, all employees stop whatever they are doing and help search for a missing child somewhere in the store. No one leaves the store. Everyone searches. Security is involved until child is reunited with parents.

I know this, because it has happened to young son before. *sigh* It is a good thing.

"Amber Alert" is different. That is a situation about a child abduction by known or unknowns, and this is to get the information out to everyone as soon as possible. People in rush hour traffic, people traveling, etc.

And I agree, I doubt John Walsh would mind. It all helps children.

 

[joeys-game]

In 1981, John Walsh's son, Adam was abducted from a Sears. They only found the boy's severed head, and the case was never solved. From that moment on, John walsh busted his ass day in and day out to do what he could for missing children, he did what he could for vitcims and families for 20 some odd years.

This man has done everything he could in the memory of his lost child since before I was even born. When a child went missing it was a "code adam". For YEARS.

Now, it's suddenly Amber alert because of an 8 year old girl.

I am not discounting the tragedy that befell this poor little girl, just as I would not discount the tragedy that happened to ANY body. Nor am I discounting the pain and grief Amber's family felt, or anything they may have done over the past 10 or so years.

But it bothers me, that after all John Walsh has done, the main thing that keep the story of his son in everyone's mind the main child who's gruesome tragedy started everything we have for child protection, has just been cast aside for... dare I say it? A cuter, more recent child? Is that it?

Is these two children, with how many children in the past god knows how long have been kidnapped, raped, tortured or murdered, the most important children out there? Nay. I know John Walsh deserves all the recognition he can get. This man turned his tragedy into hope for children everywhere, with Missing Children Act of 1982 and the Missing Children's Assistance Act of 1984 and many other organization and laws he has helped put into action.


To me it just feels like this "amber alert" is a slap to his face, to what all he has done, and to the memory of his child. This just bugs the crap out of me. I'm sorry it that offends anyone but it's the truth.

I can totally understand how you feel, and why you may feel that way.

Just wanted to validate your feelings on this, without attempting to challenge your view.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

A "Code Adam" happens at Walmarts and other stores....

"Amber Alert" is different....

And I agree, I doubt John Walsh would mind. It all helps children.

Yes on the first and the second...

Although I doubt the last. Amber Alerts abused way too often by divorced parents. Yes yes I know anything can be abused... just one of my peeves.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Yes on the first and the second...

Although I doubt the last. Amber Alerts abused way too often by divorced parents. Yes yes I know anything can be abused... just one of my peeves.

How would that be abuse? If a parent who has no custodial or even visitation rights takes off with a child, that is grounds for an Amber alert. If a parent is legally taking the child somewhere in a car, I can't imagine the other parent putting the child through the trauma of a pursuit. Such a thing would be extremely self-defeating and might even result in the complainer being arrested or losing some rights.

 

[OhMissScarlett]

True true. Ever since I can remember it has been "Code Adam". On TV in the store, "code Adam". Then without explination (I actually had to look up who it was named after) it's suddenly "Amber Alert" and ever since I was really little I heard "Code Adam" and knew what it was because we'd been told "about" it in school (not too much detail, but this is why we need to be careful around strangers) and then my mom had explained it to me in detail.

And then recently, it's suddenly "Amber alert" and I think "what about all john walsh did, what about his child?" and it bothers me.

Code Adam is used when a child goes missing at a store. When Adam disappeared, his mother searched for two hours by herself before police were called. Code Adam insures that if the child isn't found within the store in ten minutes, that the police are called. An Amber alert would then be issued if the child wasn't found in the store, ordering a broader search. They're two different types of searches.

 

[Jagged]

In 1981, John Walsh's son, Adam was abducted from a Sears. They only found the boy's severed head, and the case was never solved. From that moment on, John walsh busted his ass day in and day out to do what he could for missing children, he did what he could for vitcims and families for 20 some odd years.

This man has done everything he could in the memory of his lost child since before I was even born. When a child went missing it was a "code adam". For YEARS.

Now, it's suddenly Amber alert because of an 8 year old girl.

I am not discounting the tragedy that befell this poor little girl, just as I would not discount the tragedy that happened to ANY body. Nor am I discounting the pain and grief Amber's family felt, or anything they may have done over the past 10 or so years.

But it bothers me, that after all John Walsh has done, the main thing that keep the story of his son in everyone's mind the main child who's gruesome tragedy started everything we have for child protection, has just been cast aside for... dare I say it? A cuter, more recent child? Is that it?

Is these two children, with how many children in the past god knows how long have been kidnapped, raped, tortured or murdered, the most important children out there? Nay. I know John Walsh deserves all the recognition he can get. This man turned his tragedy into hope for children everywhere, with Missing Children Act of 1982 and the Missing Children's Assistance Act of 1984 and many other organization and laws he has helped put into action.


To me it just feels like this "amber alert" is a slap to his face, to what all he has done, and to the memory of his child. This just bugs the crap out of me. I'm sorry it that offends anyone but it's the truth.

For all the people he has helped he deserves alot...we are talking about a man who had money and a thriving business and in the wake of a horrific crime he changes his life and helps law enforcement catch criminals and help find missing children.

He had been threatened with death often...I hope Fox never cancels his show

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Where was John Walsh when his kid vanished?

 

[tickledkitty]

Where was John Walsh when his kid vanished?

Who cares? It was 26 years ago.

 

[SeaCat]

A Code Adam and a Code Amber are two different parts of the Child Lost and Abducted System.

A Code Adam is localized, usually within a store or a Mall. A Code Amber is State Wide.

This is much like in a Hosptial. They may have something like a Code Stork for a possible Child Abduction in the Hospital. If the child hasn't been located within a short period of time then a call is placed and a Code Amber is sent out.

Cat

 

[Trinique_Fire]

True true. Ever since I can remember it has been "Code Adam". On TV in the store, "code Adam". Then without explination (I actually had to look up who it was named after) it's suddenly "Amber Alert" and ever since I was really little I heard "Code Adam" and knew what it was because we'd been told "about" it in school (not too much detail, but this is why we need to be careful around strangers) and then my mom had explained it to me in detail.

And then recently, it's suddenly "Amber alert" and I think "what about all john walsh did, what about his child?" and it bothers me.

FYI, in many stores, it is still referred to as a "code Adam."