Something authorial, maybe.

[Tzah]

When you write a story that you know you intend to submit to literotica, what do you "cater to" when you write, if anything?

Do you intentionally make it "wank fodder", do you try to tell a story, do you combine the two?

I *try* to write what I would like to read (but as I was always a lousy drawer, what's in my head doesn't often make it out onto my chosen medium as I'd visualized), but try to sort of fix it a little bit to tailor it to a more normal audience than just myself.

There's a difference between role-playing, role-playing games, cyber-sex, collaborative fiction, interactive fiction, writing, and then... well.. just people fucking around online with no real aim, but get really pissed when you try- however nicely- to set them "straight". I was wondering if it was as confusing to take up writing "seriously" as it was to try to write RPG stories with people? Is RPG'ing something that is kind of a faux pas, or do people still use it to jog their mind and see different sides of scenarios in their heads?

Just curious. It's kind of weird, this trying to socialize stuff. When I was judging a horse show for the first time, a mentor told me "You're being paid to judge this thing. My advice to you is to get your job done, and then get the hell outta there." I thought about it, and I think his reasoning was "don't stick around for someone to find something to call you out on" because, psychologically speaking, the human ego (especially the newb to something) is fragile. He didn't want to see me "shot full of holes" and down-trodden. So, as an author, how many actually visit and participate on the boards- do you think it affects people's reception of your work?

I'm taking this too seriously, I know, but I had some spare time and figured I'd fiddle-fart around and get some feedback on things stuck in my mind for awhile.

 

[impressive]

Welcome to Fiddle-Fart Central. We hope you enjoy your stay.

I don't write "for" Lit any more. When I did, I attempted to balance story with stroke.

These days, writing for other venues, the story comes first (no pun intended). If the story involves sex, I'll write it. It usually does 'cause... well, that's the way I'm wired.

 

[RedHairedandFriendly]

I write what my muse tells me to write. Sometimes it is stroke, though not often, sometimes it is long and romantic, sometimes short and sweet. Just write what you want to write, don't cater to the audience first, cater to yourself first. Otherwise you'll get into a habit of thinking... my readers expect sex and so I have to put sex in every story, you'll tire of this (in my opinion) and then you'll tire of writing.

 

[Recidiva]

I don't think setting anyone straight is satisfying.

Being straight or twisted is better.

I worry about what I want to read, since I'm doing it for fun and the stuff I write makes me think.

When I'm done, then I ask other people to look at it, and I take into account what they want to think and feel and see if I can make it all dovetail.

No matter what I do, even if I craft the perfect image of a butterfly that is spot on for me, someone's gonna say "Ewww. Ugly bat."

 

[jomar]

My first stories were strictly wank. My latest story was more plot and character development and all that writerly stuff that I'm just learning. But I did cater to Lit and add (even wedged) sex in every chapter - the story could stand without sex.

Some people here submit stories under an alt, so perceptions of their social alt have no effect on story reception.

 

[Recidiva]

My first stories were strictly wank. My latest story was more plot and character development and all that writerly stuff that I'm just learning. But I did cater to Lit and add (even wedged) sex in every chapter - the story could stand without sex.

Some people here submit stories under an alt, so perceptions of their social alt have no effect on story reception.

I thought about submitting my nonconsent bit under another name, as most of my stuff was romance, but I'm glad I did it under my own name.

I like combining all my experiences and getting the full panoramic view.

Besides, if it had done well, I would have wanted the credit. So essentially it comes down to feeding one ego and not splitting it all up.

It didn't do all that well, but I did like asking for reviews, asking for help, being WAY out of my comfort zone.

 

[cloudy]

No matter what I do, even if I craft the perfect image of a butterfly that is spot on for me, someone's gonna say "Ewww. Ugly bat."

Sig-worthy if I've ever seen one.

 

[Recidiva]

Sig-worthy if I've ever seen one.

Lit's the best Rorschach test ever, I swear.

 

[jomar]

Lit's the best Rorschach test ever, I swear.

One of my sayings is "Life's a Rorschach."

I put my White Trash story in Loving Wives under an alt to try and piss off trolls. But people liked it (I didn't know/hit the right troll buttons) so I changed the ending and resubmitted so it would join the rest of my stories. For me, it's convenient keeping all my stories in one place.

 

[Recidiva]

One of my sayings is "Life's a Rorschach."

I put my White Trash story in Loving Wives under an alt to try and piss off trolls. But people liked it (I didn't know/hit the right troll buttons) so I changed the ending and resubmitted so it would join the rest of my stories. For me, it's convenient keeping all my stories in one place.

ETA: I was writing this before I saw your post above this. I like you!

I guess I thought my feelings would be hurt more, but they're not. It's nice to know I have a better sense of humor and LESS of an ego than I thought.

Also less talent than I'd actually like to have, but that's okay too. I really do like reality checks.

I like you too

 

[tickledkitty]

Lit's the best Rorschach test ever, I swear.

Yet another sig-worthy line. You're on a roll this morning.

 

[jomar]

I guess I thought my feelings would be hurt more, but they're not. It's nice to know I have a better sense of humor and LESS of an ego than I thought.

Also less talent than I'd actually like to have, but that's okay too. I really do like reality checks.

I like you too

Hmm. Maybe that's what I can post on the "What do you want thread" - more talent.


Anyway, I need more coffee! I read your Lit-Rorschach post, started my response, got distracted, then when I got back misread Lit for Life, hence the ETA I deleted.

Doesn't change the fact that I like you. And not just because you wear a tiara!

Coffee?

 

[Recidiva]

Hmm. Maybe that's what I can post on the "What do you want thread" - more talent.


Anyway, I need more coffee! I read your Lit-Rorschach post, started my response, got distracted, then when I got back misread Lit for Life, hence the ETA I deleted.

Doesn't change the fact that I like you. And not just because you wear a tiara!

Coffee?

I'd love more talent. Yes, please. With cream and sugar. But I'll take coffee.

I posted to your original response, cut and pasted back in your ETA, and now I'm not going to edit it out because history is fun.

 

[jomar]

I'd love more talent. Yes, please. With cream and sugar. But I'll take coffee.

I posted to your original response, cut and pasted back in your ETA, and now I'm not going to edit it out because history is fun.

I'll play. It's just like Wikipedia!

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Well... welcum to the house of evil writers, Tzah.

This is how it's done. I watch hundreds of hours of porn and masturbate until my arm is about to fall off. Then I let all the images of pussy licking, cocksucking, horny midgets butt fucking each other, hairy women bouncing up and down on clean shaven men, guys on guys, women on women, three-somes, four-somes, ten-somes settle and stew for a few days.

Then I just write whatever shows up in my head. There usually isn't any sex at all. If the reader doesn't like it - Fuck um.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I don't write for lit-- and it shows, I'd say, in my votes!
Most of what I've posted to the internet isn't here at all, being tailored to a more specific readership. And the rest of it, I am hoping to offer to publishers, so it won't be here either...

 

[Carnevil9]

I write about sex. I try to include a story and some drama, too (a problem, a solution, a lesson learned), but that is secondary.

Given the number of views that most stories seem to collect, I can't imagine that the people who've seen my silly posts on the forum would amount to a significant fraction of those viewers, so I don't worry about that......Carney

 

[Tzah]

*facedesk*

If I wrote in every single "for in the sense that it's on here, not for the approval of", or "not everyone, just the ones that," and so for the generalizations, my posts would be way longer than they already are- and that's a bad thing.

But, it's something I need to improve, because I didn't realize how much nitpicking and hair-splitting went on for the sake of entertainment. I view it as a challenge to "get it right". Nay, a taunt that I can't, LOL.

(LOL in laughing weakly at self-deprecation, mild frustration that you can say "the sky is blue" and someone will say "here, yes, but not where it's cloudy, then it's gray, but especially not on Mars because of the lucent dilution through refracted microparticles of ... ah, fuck it)

 

[Recidiva]

*facedesk*

If I wrote in every single "for in the sense that it's on here, not for the approval of", or "not everyone, just the ones that," and so for the generalizations, my posts would be way longer than they already are- and that's a bad thing.

But, it's something I need to improve, because I didn't realize how much nitpicking and hair-splitting went on for the sake of entertainment. I view it as a challenge to "get it right". Nay, a taunt that I can't, LOL.

(LOL in laughing weakly at self-deprecation, mild frustration that you can say "the sky is blue" and someone will say "here, yes, but not where it's cloudy, then it's gray, but especially not on Mars because of the lucent dilution through refracted microparticles of ... ah, fuck it)

Well, that's why we write on clear days and cloudy days and try to imagine what's on Mars.

 

[Stella_Omega]

*facedesk*

If I wrote in every single "for in the sense that it's on here, not for the approval of", or "not everyone, just the ones that," and so for the generalizations, my posts would be way longer than they already are- and that's a bad thing.

But, it's something I need to improve, because I didn't realize how much nitpicking and hair-splitting went on for the sake of entertainment. I view it as a challenge to "get it right". Nay, a taunt that I can't, LOL.

(LOL in laughing weakly at self-deprecation, mild frustration that you can say "the sky is blue" and someone will say "here, yes, but not where it's cloudy, then it's gray, but especially not on Mars because of the lucent dilution through refracted microparticles of ... ah, fuck it)

Anything for entertainment!

(By the way, I've done four RPG's here, and three of them are turning into "real stories"-- the fourth one got published under "transcripts and letters."

But I have a hard time in RPG's because I'm a writer first, and I always try to force my co-players into some kind of narrational direction. Which isn't the point at all!

 

[Weird Harold]

But, it's something I need to improve, because I didn't realize how much nitpicking and hair-splitting went on for the sake of entertainment. I view it as a challenge to "get it right". Nay, a taunt that I can't, LOL.

"Getting it right" is such a variable concept when it comes to writing -- especially if you try to write "for" a specific audience.

For me, the story I want to tell drives everything and I worry about where to post it after I've met the needs of the story.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I usually write the kind of story that I like, and try to make it something to frig to, or wank to. That means sex, usually withoug much of a plot or character development. Once in a while, howefer, I like to do more than that.

I always have a happy ending, or what I consider a happy ending. Usually that means everybody having happy sex and cumming multiple times. In one story, it was a rapist being shot by his victim's mother and in another, it was a sexual abuser being whipped and tortured and humiliated. Those are things I consider to be happy endings.

 

[Dreamliner]

Okay, I do not write, ever, but, I read a lot of the lit erotica and enjoy manhy type of genre.

Express yourself here s that is, to my thinking, the better way to validate your expertise. You get that from the feedback and voting.

However, I do chat with writers here, both via type and phone. They all say why do you not write. I leave it to them and ther are at last count 12 stories on lit directly related to my chats with writers here.

Go with what you like to experience or have experienced..realism adds to the stroy here.

Have fun

 

[cantdog]

I'm not certain "authorial" was a word last month. Auctorial may be what you're groping for.

Your first question is always going to draw a lot of brag from people who do not consider the publisher nor audience when they write because they have Such Integrity that the Story Must Out, and all that. In my opinion, poetry does have to be written like that, or it's drivel. But prose is another animal.

It will do you no harm whatsoever to consider the audience and the needs of the publisher as you write, and to adapt what you write to those needs. Most of the prose that people ever get paid to write is very much like that. So it's good practice to do it, and it recasts your question in the form What sort of story are readers of lit looking for?

As Box can tell you, plain straight out fuck stories are a good thing here, and will win you a good big readership, eventually, if you can do it right. But people read plot-driven stories, here, too, and with just as much enthusiasm; the same goes for character-driven ones, although less so. And, since that's true, you can write any or all of that with equal comfort and you may as well suit yourself. Some ideas are clearly a play, others are a poem, still others a short, a novella, or whatever. Some are rousers and can be told in strong clear terms and enjoyed. Other ideas play better in an intimate, nuanced, subtle style, drawing every exquisite sensation from their moment. But here, it's all good.

That said, the readership Box has, for example, follow him because they expect a certain kind of experience from a Boxlicker tale, and would be disgruntled to find a breathless description of the interior of a woman's mind in the instant of temptation when they open the next Boxlicker story. For that reason, some of us post under different names when the project is of a different character, so that each readership can follow their favorite author and be gratified, while we, the authors, can still explore new ground. All that sort of shenanigan is certainly up to you, to do or not, as you please. Sweetnpetite used a different name for her romances than her dirty-girl raunch, but other authors don't do that.

As for the second part, about the boards. A controversy on the boards will indeed sometimes cause malicious feedback or intentionally spiteful votes. Make no mistake about that, it does happen.

You ought to know, though, that you get the same thing even if you don't ever post on the boards-- all you have to do is be on one of the toplists, and they will bomb you off there with one votes on that account alone. Or for any number of other reasons, such as racist ones or macho issues or some other personal squick a reader might have. Did a male character actually allow sperm to pass his lips? Some reader out there will flame you for it. Was there anal sex? Same thing.

There is no way to entirely avoid that sort of reaction, except by not writing at all. And being in the toplist is a good thing, even if they do come along and one-vote you. That is, I would never try to avoid the toplist for fear of that, would you? And for me, avoiding controversy on the boards for fear of getting nasty feedback would be just as silly, although a good many authors actually post stories under names that never post in the threads, because to them that sort of thing is only prudence.