Someone killed a policeman today..........

Adoratrice

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Last night A Cincinnati Police officer who graduated The police academy with my husband 4 years ago was dragged to his death when he tried to remove the keys from a car a 12 year old boy was driving..the officer was able to shoot & kill the boy before he himself was thrown to his death...the officers wife & 3 children will now have to listen to the public outcries of why did he have to kill a child...because I'm sure he was a good boy afterall(severe sarcasm)


Someone killed a policeman today,
and a part of our country died.
A piece of our country, he swore to protect,
will be buried with him at his side.
The beat he patrolled was a battlefield too,
just as if he had gone to war.
Though the flag of our country won't fly at half mast,
to his name they will add a gold star.
Yes, someone killed a policeman today,
maybe in your town or mine.
While we slept in comfort behind our locked doors,
A cop put his life on the line.
Now his spirit patrols his beat on a dark country street,
and he stands at each new rookie's side,
He answered the call, of himself he gave all,
and part of our country died.

My husband has never posted here but felt he would like to reply to a thread titled "why are all cops assholes"....
http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=13027


I've been looking forward to today, it's my only day off in the last two weeks. I was going to get my children off to school and then get back in bed and sleep, something I don't get a chance to do often. At 8:30 AM my wife woke me, sitting next to me in bed, lips quivering, to tell me that one of my brothers was dead. Working to protect us, all of us, as we slept soundly in our beds. He had left his house that evening I'm sure the same way I leave mine everyday, I kiss my children and tell them I love them and I'll see them soon, and then I do the same to my wife...knowing that because I choose to be a police officer that maybe today will be the day that I'm unable to keep that promise to my family...today he was unable to keep that promise to his.
I'm so filled with emotion right now that this may ramble on, but I think this is more for me than it is for you. You don't understand what it's like to be a police officer, and I don't really expect you to. That's why when I see things like this post "why are all cops assholes?" then I let them slide. I, like all officers, am paid to do a job. That means stop you if your speeding, arrest you if you're breaking the law, protect you when those laws are being broken at your expense. I don't know you and you don't know me....I don't catagorize you by skin, dress, car, or job yet you catagorize me in an instant because of my uniform. I know that many of you feel as if we do catagorize, or profile, and I am not so naive to think that it doesn't happen, but I don't, and most of my brothers and sisters don't. We are out there every day not knowing who or what we will encounter. My brother last night ws killed by a 12 year old boy...12!!! I get up every morning and put on a BULLET PROOF VEST...as part of my uniform, everyday I have to prepare to be shot!! Why do I do it? Sometimes I wonder...but when I find a child that was missing all night and the parents are in tears worried about her, and they thank me...me! then I know why I do it. When I take an abusive husband out of a home so a wife can live without fear and her child doesn't have to watch daddy beating up mommy, then I know why. In four years I may have received 30 genuine "thank you"s....that is why I'm a police officer. On a daily basis people cuss me, call me names and spit on the ground as I drive by, yet every person I treat as if it may be my 31st thank you. Why are we assholes?, I don't think we are, many times we reflect citizens not knowing if they are going to be the next unexpected murderer of a police officer. Next time, try "I understand Officer" and maybe even a "Thank You"...I for one will be counting them.
 
I do understand my friend. There are others here who do too. I am truly sorry for your loss and the loss of a fellow officer.

Although the force on which I serve as an auxilliary hasn't had an on duty death in more than 15 years I have been to the funerals of too many fellow officers in the past few years.

We all grieve sir.

I will be thirty first in sincerely thanking you for what you do. I wish you number thirty two.
 
I will be number 32. I have the utmost respect & admiration for police officers. My son was murdered last year & our local police department did the best they could. It was the worst crime in the history of our city & I can never thank them enough, they were very sensitive to my grief & did many things for all of the families who lost a loved one.Being a police officer takes a special person & it makes me so angry that the few bad cops out there get all the attention. There will always be a few bad ones in every career field, they are the exception. I raised my son to never fear a policeman, they are here to protect us.My deepest sympathies in the loss of your fellow officer. Take care.
 
Even though I'm from another country, I'll be number 33 to thank you.

I have never looked down at police officers at all. After all they are here to protect us, and do a job that many people don't want to do. And that they also risk to be called names and worse just because the protect us, that's just despicable, because if you need them, they will help you, no matter what you have said or done earlier.

Yes there are also people in the uniform that shouldn't be there, but isn't that the same in many fields? I'm also sure that there are people in congress, military, the white house and so on that should never have been there.

Something I'm doing my best to live up to is: treat people like you want to be treated yourself. So if you spit at policeofficers, just because they are in the uniform, then don't be surprised someday if people start to spit at you.

Ok I'll stop my rambling now.
 
Mr. Officer,
Please forgive me. I am one of those that for years muttered and swore that any cop was a bad cop. Period. I had a very bad experience in college and let it color my whole world.
But, over the last few years I have come to realize that he was a rare bad apple on the force. That if I had trusted his brothers they would have helped me "correct" his behaviour.
I was raised to honour and respect those that chose to serve this country and it's people, in whatever capacity that would be. But I let one man warp my respect for these men.
From the highest office to the lowest volunteer down at the V.A., they give their best for us. Often giving up their personal lives to respond to calls.
Your letter touched me so, that I sit here crying. Ashamed and embarassed. I think, what would happen if the cop I flipped off today, is the one called to save my life tomorrow? Would he? Or would he recognize me as the woman with the bad attitude, and look away. The answer is no. He would do his duty. Knowing I had "spit on the ground" or cussed, or muttered. Maybe I was the one that gave him a bad time when he pulled me over for going 55 in a 40, or for running a red light. (I was in a hurry!) I was mad at myself, and let it out on him. I am glad to think that he would be more mature then I had been, and put his personal feelings behind him.
I am sorry, but nothing can change the way I acted and felt all those years. I wish I could. But, from now on, I will thank every officer I can, for the hard work and dedication they, and their families, give every day, and night of their lives.
Thank you for writing. Please forgive me, and others out there who won't/can't respond.
 
I am truly sorry for your loss ... my sympathy on the loss of one of your brothers ...

Terry ... big hugs, darling. My deepest and sincerest condolences on the greatest loss imaginable. Take care of yourself.
 
He killed a twelve-year-old boy! As far as i know and I'm not a lawyer but I don't believe that underage driving is a death penalty offence, if it is it's certainly not up to the policeman to be judge jury and executioner! Why is everyone here so glad he killed a twelve year old? I don't understand this at all. I'm sorry your friend died, but to express relief that he murdered someones child! What's wrong with you people?
 
Not to jump to conclusions here but I think that the officer acted to prevent a far greater tragedy. I live in a town where a number of fatal accidents have been caused by joyriding youngsters-and their evening of fun has cost innocent families their lives.
I did not see anyone applauding the death of the child-I doubt that was the point in anyone posting here.
The purpose of this I felt was to have us all stop a moment and consider how safe our lives are in many circumstances due to the police.
And as a mother I hope I never have to receive the call that child's parent received. But as a military wife,my spouse is a member of the National Guard, I dread the idea that he is trained and able to serve along side of the police. I would hate to think that I may ever receive a call telling me that in the line of duty my spouse had been killed.
So please let me add my thank you.
 
I want to thank you all for your heartfelt sympathy....Expertise;Thank you for understanding...Teresafannin;I am truly sorry for your loss, thank you so much for taking the time to respond....Shyguy;Thank you for your respect...Isabella;Thank you...Earthgoddes;Thank you...Bonnie;Thank you...and Merelan....I sit here in tears thanking you, wishing & praying that every person my husband comes in contact with in the course of his day would think like you.....You are all what make it worthwhile for him to put on that uniform everyday.

Adoratrice
 
Adoratrice, my heart goes out to you and your husband, please tell him thank you for me.

It is a sad state of affairs when children of that age are not taught to respect the laws of our society nor to respect those that enforce those laws.

It is even sadder that a nameless, craven coward chooses to blame someone giving his all to protect a community rather than hold the parents responsible.
 
my sincerest condolences

I am too a fellow Ohioan and it deeply disturbs me that this sort of thing happens all of the time. Men and women who work hard to make our streets safe being killed for reasons unknown. It is truely aweful. I wanted to add that as irrelivant as this is to the true issue, that I am some what of a hippy, and that I hear other hippies constantly downing the police. It makes me so mad that they displace their own wrong doing and turn cops into "evil" in their minds. I know that if your not doing anything wrong, you usually won't get in to trouble. These people don't take responsibility for their actions, and no matter what anyone says, 99 percent of police are good people and they would never hurt anyone unless they had to defend themsleves. I am so sorry for your loss and I hope that you can heal and that society keeps a lid on it when it comes to this issue. Love, B&B
 
Thank you both....Blonde you saying you are a hippy made me smile & remember another good cop story...My father ,brother & sister are in what is known as th "Rainbow Tribe" they travel the U.S. with other hippy's living in teepees, tents whatever shelter they can put up...they are very clean people(for the most part)..but tend to look ...well like hippys..long dredlocked hair..tyedyed clothes & carrying everything they own on their backs....well My brother& sister were in camp with my Dad about 300 miles from my house, they decided they wanted to see me before they headed off to Montana for a Rainbow National gathering, anyway they started walking here...got a few rides but walked for the most part, well they found themselves lost in a bad part of town in Cincinnati,two police cars stopped them in the middle of the freeway to question them...as they did look awfuly out of place & suspicious...they told the officers their story, The two police men could have easily gave them a hard time but instead they drove them 20 miles to within a mile of my house and told them if they really knew me than they would know the way(we were not home to take a phone call)...how cool is that. To this day the officers still talk about how intruiging and inspirational my brother is...to this day my brother still talks about how cool the officers were.
 
There is never a reason to hate cops, most of them are on the up and up and are just doing their job. I have the utmost respect for cops and I am sorry for the guest who posted thier ignorance...the twelve year old was trying to drag the cop to death and suceeded...why shouldn't he have died too??/ that probably saved the life of someone else down the road...I am sorry one of the men who protect us died....
 
FOR WAIT A MINUTE...IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST TIME YOU COWARD.......
This is me Adoratrice not my husband speaking......
your right on one point it was only a misdemeanor crime which makes it more senseless that 2 people had to die....first of all fuck you for not having the balls to post under your own name....second we are talking about an officer who would have GLADLY given his life to save a childs,an officer who was trying to stop the "child" after he almost ran over other children, an officer who was known for his work with children, an officer who was dragged 800 fucking feet begging the "child" to stop...please stop ...don't make me shoot you...please please please STOP THE CAR !!!!!! an officer whose wife has to go look at & identify a mangled shell of what used to be her husband an officer who"s three children must now face the fact that their father was killed by a 12 yr old BOY!!!! A twelve yr old boy who was in a stolen car at 1:00am in the morning a twelve yr old boy that Kevin let drag him 800 feet before shooting him....HOW LONG WOULD YOU HAVE WAITED MR. WAIT A MINUTE???
 
Wait a Minute said:
He killed a twelve-year-old boy! As far as i know and I'm not a lawyer but I don't believe that underage driving is a death penalty offence, if it is it's certainly not up to the policeman to be judge jury and executioner! Why is everyone here so glad he killed a twelve year old? I don't understand this at all. I'm sorry your friend died, but to express relief that he murdered someones child! What's wrong with you people?

Ya' know, it took me awhile before I could figure out what to post here. But the more I thought about this thread, the more it saddened me. Certainly, my heart goes out to the people who lost their beloved officer, and I would be heartless if I didn't feel for the family of the little boy, too. Losing a child is something that I just can't even begin to comprehend, but I know how I would feel if I one of my children died.

What really concerns me here is that our "guest" doesn't realize that the officer probably wasn't aiming to kill the child. I can't imagine any person being dragged along side a moving vehicle, being calm enough to aim his weapon at a child with the intentions of killing him. I can't imagine that what was going through that officers mind at that time, but I truly doubt that it was anything to the effect of "I have to kill this kid in order to save myself." I believe his final thoughts were more along the lines of trying to prevent the child from possibly killing anyone else while he wrecklessly drove a vehicle that he couldn't control.

Now maybe I'm way off base here, but I do agree that the penalty for underage driving isn't death, however, isn't voluntary manslaughter punishible by death in some states? Certainly not a juvenile offender, but even at 12 years of age, the kid should have known better than to be behind the wheel to begin with, and definitely should've known better than to willingly disregard an officers request to stop the car.

Perhaps the child got what he deserved...and perhaps if his parents were paying closer attention to him, these two people would still be alive today.

Adoratrice, my thoughts and prayers go out to you, your husband, and all of the people who were affected by this recent tragedy...it is my sincere hope that you are never faced with these circumstances. It takes a special person to build a life with anyone who is in law enforcement, and I, for one, commend you for your being one of those special people. *hugs*

-Angel
 
Officer Sir,

Thank you and all of your comrades in this terrifying time when children are terrorists. My heart aches for each and every soul touched by this tragedy.

Earthmuffin
 
I thank you and any officer that serves the public, I feel for the lose of a comrade.

the reason i have to keep in mind that, to me and let me explain, a cop needs to be an asshole with a badge while on duty, because without that i dont respect him as i should. if on duty a cop/officer of the law was chummy with me like my friends were i would not respect his authority and power like i should.

i give your comrade a hats off of respect to have held out for 800 feet i would have been much quicker on the draw. Again my hats go off to you and your comrades and the families involved
 
So sorry to hear...

Adoratrice and hubbie, my thoughts and prayers are with you both at this terrible time. It deeply saddened me to hear of this horrific senseless tragedy. A child of 12 years should be at home snuggled in their covers at this time of morning, not out joy riding! What in the hell is this world coming too?

I can only hope he was loved and not neglected and forced out onto the streets. But where were his parents at this time? There is no way, he should have been out galavanting at this time of night.

Sometimes, as sad as it is, there is no direction at home, and kids retaliate in their anger and show no remorse or respect to others. If this child was shown no direction, had no guidence, nor love, what kind of self-worth did he have? If one does not respect himself/herself, they cannot possibly respect others around them. It is sad that officers have to face such young offenders and lose their lives in doing so.

We as parents can only love our children and try to guide them the right way. Sometimes, we bang our heads against the wall, wondering where we went wrong? Kids can be easily influenced and lose their sense of direction. We try to do everything we can possibly do, and some children still steer the wrong way. What makes kids at such a young age, do what they do? No one knows, except they themselves and most do not want to share the whys.

I just wanted to say, I too, have the outmost respect for police officers. I cannot praise them enough for the incredible courage it takes to face the unknown every day of their lives. A soft kiss goodbye to their loved ones, a tender hug for their children, and wondering, will I come home tonight? Will I see my family again? Will God, take care of me and watch over me, this day? So many questions, and no real answers. You just pray, one day at a time.

I too had a small run in with a police officer one day, many years ago. I was speeding, I was wearing no seat-belt, which I might add is law in Thunder Bay, and I did not have my drivers license with me. Talk about a dilemma. The officer was kind enough to give me only one ticket for speeding, because the other would have been a heftier fine. I did not sweet talk him, just faced the music as I deserved. Officers do have compassion though, they are human just as we are. They deserve the same amount of respect as anyone else. Treat others as you yourself, wish to be treated, plain and simple.

I also wanted to add my thanks and you have my deepest respect. Thank you

Katerina :)








[Edited by Katerina on 09-01-2000 at 11:18 PM]
 
This is definitely a double tragedy. My condolences do go out to the police officer, who died in the performance of his duty. One of the risks of his line of work is that these things DO happen, but that doesn't make this any less of a tragedy.

My condolences also go out to the child's parents. Very little information was given here about what happened, but anyone who's ever had a kid or been a kid knows that good kids can sometimes make stupid decisions. This child was obviously not being smart, but did he deserve to die, as many insinuate here?

I don't think either of them deserved to die. The idea that since the officer lost his life, the child should also lose his is shocking. What if that were your kid? Your nephew? Your grandchild? It could have been. Would you feel such hatred of him, wish death on him? I doubt it. That was a child, not a "terrorist". There has been no information given here to suggest such.

In the United States of America, we are innocent until proven guilty. Because this child died before he got to court does not negate this. Until given inside information on the case that says that the kid had ten felony convictions and five misdemeanor convictions, I have to assume that he was a kid who made a stupid mistake and paid the final price.

That he took someone with him is the ultimate tragedy, but he did not deserve to die. He deserved to be arrested by the officer and taken to jail. He deserved to be punished by his parents. A lot - more than just grounding. But he did not deserve to be shot and killed any more than the officer deserved to be dragged to death.

This is a sad situation, and tonight two families are grieving. My thoughts are with both of them.
 
Thank you all....you will never know how healing your words are....

Angelique...Thank you for posting, I believe you are right. I too would be heartless to not feel compasion for the boy...not his family but the boy, who was not asked to be born into a family that would raise him to fear police, neglect him,leave his life to chance on the streets, a family who did not tell this young man that he was someone special,that he could be anything he wanted in life,A family who didn't show him love & understanding,didn't give him a strong male role model to immulate,didn't teach him respect for others or himself, didn't grab him by the collar and tell him his actions were unacceptable,didn't teach him to take responsibility for his actions,didn't tell him there was a better way. I must admit I felt nothing for this murderer til I saw his picture, he was a baby who's family never gave him a chance.

As far as our guest "Wait a minute" goes...I hope you all realize this coward is one who is not new here, I have never had a harsh word to say here but this scum is the lowest form of life..a chicken shit to afraid even in cyberworld to use his post name. I was literally sick to my stomach when I read his (her) post. I dare whoever you are to email me & we can continue this in private..under a slime covered rock would probably suit you fine.

Laurel...I respect your view on this and agree with most of it, the boy had no prior FELONY convictions. I am sure givin the chioce Kevin would have gladly just taken the boy to jail or home to his parents (I use that term loosly). May I ask if armed and being dragged at high speeds what your action-reaction would be?

[Edited by Adoratrice on 09-01-2000 at 10:28 PM]
 
Laurel's right about this.

Unfortunately, it seems the only two people who really know what happened are now dead. For ANY of us to judge either party based on what little information we have at this time is an insult to the family and friends of both.

I can understand why Adoratrice and her husband are reacting the way they are. This has obviously been a very emotional and stressful time for both of them.


Now, as for the rest of you....

Well, shit. I was going to single out some of the more moronic comments I saw on the other page, but this certainly isn't the time and place for that. I will say that maybe some of you need to think before you post. This is the second thread where I've seen comments tonite that just make me shudder to think that someone might actually believe what they're posting.

I'll leave it at that for now.
 
I'm a Rainbow

Dear Adoratrice, I was so pleased to hear your uplifting, family story. I am a Rainbow and I know how kind and helpful police can be. They keep us safe at gatherings, by keeping their presence outside the gatering site. to ensure that If trouble arises they can be there to help. In the case of the Vermont National, were hunters shot and killed a Rainbow, the police were there to track down the murderers. I call them murderers, because How can you not see a hippie in the woods. Either we're naked or dressed very brightly. I am stil deeply sorry for you husbands loss. Give him a big hug and tell him I said "we all lost a brother, for we are all brothers and sisters." Peace find these souls, who ache from the loss that has occured in the city of Cinnci. Love, Gretchen
 
The three least appreciate professions,

Policemen, firemen and teachers. (Whether their ranks are filled with men or women).

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