Somehow people refuse to care about Palestine, just because they constantly fire missiles at Israel. Total hypocrisy.

I care about Israel and Palestine.

Didn't seem to be many people in here that brought up the cease fire just brokered.
 
I care about Israel and Palestine.

Didn't seem to be many people in here that brought up the cease fire just brokered.

Kind of irrelevant. The fire, they ceasefire, they fire, they ceasefire... you think the Palestinans would have learnt by now. When even the Saudi's walk away from you, you think it would sink in that you better make the best of it. It's not like the Israeli's haven't tried... and tried....and tried.

It's just another ceasefire and it'll last until the Palestinians start shooting again....
 
Kind of irrelevant. The fire, they ceasefire, they fire, they ceasefire... you think the Palestinans would have learnt by now. When even the Saudi's walk away from you, you think it would sink in that you better make the best of it. It's not like the Israeli's haven't tried... and tried....and tried.

It's just another ceasefire and it'll last until the Palestinians start shooting again....
If a ceasefire we're irrelevant, then nobody would ever agree to them.
 
If a ceasefire we're irrelevant, then nobody would ever agree to them.

Ohh no, it's to take a break while they restock on ammo and train up new death-fedaykin so that Maud'dib can send them on suicide... oh, wait. Wrong movie. This is that thing in the Middle East, right? Not Arrakis. I was confused by all the sand.....
 
Ohh no, it's to take a break while they restock on ammo and train up new death-fedaykin so that Maud'dib can send them on suicide... oh, wait. Wrong movie. This is that thing in the Middle East, right? Not Arrakis. I was confused by all the sand.....
Last ceasefire was.violated by Israel btw
 
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. One side or the other will, but if the Israeli's do, its usually for a reason.
Your support of Israel and disdain for Palestine is noted.
 
Your support of Israel and disdain for Palestine is noted.

Not sure I support Israel. Call it a healthy scepticism of Israeli intentions, and a rather cynical view of the Palestinians....
 
My support for Israel is unconditional. The only Palestinians I care about are the Christian Palestinians.
 
Kind of irrelevant. The fire, they ceasefire, they fire, they ceasefire... you think the Palestinans would have learnt by now. When even the Saudi's walk away from you, you think it would sink in that you better make the best of it. It's not like the Israeli's haven't tried... and tried....and tried.

It's just another ceasefire and it'll last until the Palestinians start shooting again....
You have that completely wrong. Israel is basically a terrorist state committing crimes against humanity frequently. we should stop the almost 4,000,000,000 a year Until they act like a first world civilized country. And, before you even go there, criticizing their government policy is not anti-Semitism. The irony of Jews suppressing and killing another religion/race is beyond comprehension. While I’m on the soapbox, I hate your pity pot. Any knowledge of what colonialists did to the indigenous peoples of the Americas?
 
I’m not by any means an expert, but I have not heard a cogent argument for why I, or any of us, should care about Palestine.
Really? Xenophobic racist piece of bovine fecal matter is not a good optic. Now you know…
 
No culture or nation has ever been able to live for long with jews within their midst. Not even the Romans, the arch assimilators who toleratedf everyone within the Roman Empire could tolerate them and eventually expelled them, as have 109 nations since. Why should the muslims be any different in resenting the 6 million or whatever that flooded in after WW2. The behaviour of them as a group eventually makes them wear out their welcome everywhere. Outrage against israeli behaviour grows again in europe.

America is a curious place in that it has a love-hate relationship with these red sea pedestrians. Americans can love them or hate them, but the muzzle they put on america through places like the SPLC and ADL and such organisations indicate jews themselves know which way the wind will blow if they don't enforce silence. They are wise enough to know that their behaviour will even wear out their welcome in america sooner or later. If anti-semitism exists, a large part of it can be attributed to the bahviour of jews themselves.
The actions of a few ultra right wing Zionist do not represent the religious body as a whole. Shame on you and your anti-somatic Dog whistle.
 
Yeah, the secret behind the success of the Abrahams Accords stemmed directly from the fact that the Palestinians have worn out their welcome in the Muslim Arab world and they'd rather work with Israel for security and peace in the region.

But hey, at least they are still the darlings of the world-wide Left...
 
There's a reason there has to be a cease fire brokered by Egypt and it wasn't the Abraham Accords' success
 
Whoooooo, the anti-semitism here is riper than stilton on a hot day.

Lets not forget that history, dudes. In the early days, Jews (Israeli's) actually bought most of that land from the owners, back before the war of independance in '48. And a lot of "Palestinains" were actually immigrants from other Arab countries who moved their due to the economic boom brought on by the Jews who moved there. Yasser Arafat, for example, was an Eqyptian. Haganah and all the rest were a reaction to attacks on Jews, and let us also not forget that Israel was attacked in 48 by every neighboring country, and a few that weren't as well. So they beat the Arabs? A classic example of "Fuck with me and Find Out."

Israel's tried time and time again to reach an accommodation with the Palestinians, but its hard to do that when the people you want to reach an accomodation with want you to roll over and die. In this case, it's tough shit, Palestinians. Do stupid things, win stupid prizes.

If you look at it from a purely practical point of view, at the end of the 68 war, the Isrraeli's should've just pushed everyone inside the new borders into Egypt (the Gaza strip) and Jordan (the West Bank) and fuck 'em all. They missed out on taking southern Lebanon too. Mistake. That would've sorted out the problem.

BUT the Israeli's were soft. They wanted to reach an accommodation with the Palestinians, and they tried. They really tried, and look what happened.....

I've got no stake in this fight, but really, the Pali's are a classic example of overplaying your hand. All the Arab countries just want them to go away now. And if they're stupid enough to keep poking a stick at the Israeli's, they'll keep on having the shit shot and bombe dout of them. And nobody except a few old die-hard leftie mozzie symps will give a shit. Being blunt about it.
 
It is an oddity that now HAMAS are considered moderate, not supporting the missile firing from Gaza, and that Iran's supply of missiles is drying up because of sanctions on Iran.
 
No culture or nation has ever been able to live for long with jews within their midst. If anti-semitism exists, a large part of it can be attributed to the bahviour of jews themselves.
I admire Jews because of their intelligence, their success, and their prosperity. Antisemites resent Jews for those reasons. They have spend their lives watching Jews get better grades, better jobs, and higher incomes. Now they fear being fired from their jobs and being replaced by better paid, more intelligent Jews who will perform their jobs faster, better, and with less effort, before being promoted to better jobs.

Civilizations need brilliant people in charge. We need all the Jews we have, and all the Jews we can attract to take well paying, satisfying positions at the top of our economy. As intelligence becomes more important to our economy the wealth and power of the Jews will increase. There is nothing antisemites can do about it, but harmlessly post angry comments on the internet.
 
The word anti-semitism is another jewish canard. Arabs are also semites. Jews have appropriated it to make it appear that people dislike them because of their genetics, race or religion, and it make it appear unreasonable, B ut it their behaviour that is the issue and nothing to do with them being semites.

One may as well say dislike of arabs is anti-semitic. In reality what people don't like is the the oppressive culture, terrorism and berhaviour. Nothing to do with their appearance, race or how they worship.
The primary enemy of the Israelis is the Persians in Iran who are not Semites like the Jews or the Arabs. Just sayin'.
 
Having lived and worked extensively in that region--and on the problems involved--I have concluded that most of the problem doesn't lie with the Palestinians.
 
Having lived and worked extensively in that region--and on the problems involved--I have concluded that most of the problem doesn't lie with the Palestinians.
Nope. With the Iranians.
 
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