Social Darwinism on the rise in America, Part 1

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110129/ap_on_re_us/us_expired_benefits_nevada_unemployment

An uncertain future after jobless benefits expire
By CRISTINA SILVA, Associated Press Sat Jan 29, 2:58 pm ET

LAS VEGAS – The portraits of his dead father are among the few mementoes Bud Meyers is certain he will take with him when he is forced from his home of five years next month because he cannot pay the rent.

His prized collection of mystery novels, the bedroom set he was once proud to purchase new and anything else that can't fit into the trunk of a car must be left behind.

More than two years after Meyers lost his job as a Las Vegas Strip bartender and nearly eight months after he exhausted his unemployment benefits, it has come to this: a careful inventory of a life's possessions and the hopeless embrace of a future as a middle-aged homeless man.

"I can't believe this is happening to my life," Meyers, 55, said on a recent afternoon, as he surveyed the one-bedroom apartment he must soon abandon. "It's a social holocaust."

Meyers, who is single and childless, is among a growing number of men and women who no longer qualify for unemployment benefits because they have been out of work for so long.

"Exhaustees" or "99ers" — as they are sometimes called — are searching for work and help across the United States. But their situation seems particularly bleak in Nevada, where unemployment, bankruptcies and foreclosure rates are the highest in the nation and job creation is at a crawl. The "99er" moniker refers to those who've gone beyond the maximum weeks of benefits available, but many people don't qualify for the full 99-week period.

More than 30,000 Nevadans have exhausted their benefits and hundreds more are expected to join those ranks this year, with the state's average length of unemployment climbing to more than eight months in December, according to state data.

The response from Washington has been muted. A law passed last month that restored the federal emergency unemployment program through the end of 2011 did not account for exhaustees.

Meanwhile, efforts to extend benefits for 20 more weeks in states with unemployment rates of 10 percent or higher have mostly met silence.

"People that are unemployed, particularly in hard-hit states like Nevada, they are not spoiled," said Rep. Shelley Berkley, a Las Vegas Democrat who introduced a measure to extend benefits. "They are not lazy. They are not hobos. It is just the economy is so bad that there aren't enough jobs out there."

The Silver State's unemployment rate grew to 14.5 percent in December. In the Las Vegas area, where most Nevadans live, it soared to 14.9 percent. In Reno, the rate climbed to 13.8 percent from 13.3 the month before. Nationally, the unemployment rate was 9.4 percent in December, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Transportation, warehousing and utility industries continued to shed jobs in Nevada. Gambling revenue, the lifeblood of Las Vegas, fell by 4.7 percent in November.

At best, Nevada's economy shows uneven signs of growth, said Stephen Brown, director of the Center for Business and Economic Research at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.

"People have stopped looking for work," he said. "They don't think they will find" a job.

Caught with no income and a recurring flood of unpaid bills, the chronically unemployed are overwhelming charitable groups.

At the Foundation for an Independent Tomorrow, a Las Vegas work placement center, the number of people asking for help has doubled to 1,000 this year since 2007. Staff members can only do so much for those who have been unemployed for years, said Development Coordinator Rachel Santos.

"These are some of the hardest to employ," she said. "We can't create jobs. We can't do anything magical."

The Goodwill of Southern Nevada said more than 5,600 people asked for career guidance in 2010, up 30 percent from the year before. Roughly 25 percent of those people no longer qualified for unemployment benefits, said CEO Steve Chartrand.

"One of the things we offer is hope," he said. "Many people come in really feeling down and out and our staff will take the time to listen to them."

But for some 99ers, the time for hope has passed.

Meyers initially welcomed his termination in October 2008 as a vacation from the daily grind of catering to tip-hungry cocktail waitresses and standing behind a crowded bar. He raided his $30,000 rainy-day fund and cut back on luxuries such as new clothes and hair cuts.

But as more people lost their jobs and the stock market teetered, Meyers became panicked. The casinos on the Las Vegas Strip, where he had worked his way up from a lowly bar-back to a comfortable $1,100 weekly wage, seemed reluctant to hire a pudgy, gray-haired bartender over the flocks of young women competing for the same jobs.

The one time he was called to an interview, his inexperience with mixing mojitos, a trendy mint-fused drink unheard of in the unassuming Vegas era that drew him to Sin City, cost him the opportunity, he said.

He all but emptied his checking account this month to make rent. With the remaining $56, he bought groceries — a pie, some bread, milk, coffee — and penned a notice to his friends on Facebook:

"I'm tired of being made to feel like dirt because I lost my job," he wrote. "Only three more weeks, and I won't be tired any longer."

It was not so much a suicide note, he said days later, but a cry for help.

His friends have unsuccessfully urged him to seek counseling.

"I feel like he is desolate and he is at the end of his rope," said Jacqueline Decker, who also has exhausted her unemployment benefits. "We each have our own hell."

Robert Leahy, director of the American Institute for Cognitive Therapy in New York, said it is not uncommon for 99ers to grapple with depression.

"You certainly get stuck in a negative thought over and over again," said Leahy, who studies depression. "The longer you are unemployed, the more evidence you think you have that you will never get a job."

Meyers' pessimism was somewhat softened recently by a display of altruism. A stranger who heard of his Facebook posting invited him to stay in her guest room if he is evicted. She, too, is unemployed.

He doesn't see it as a solution that can last.

He calculates that it will take three days of not having access to a shower before he is shunned on the street. He pictures police officers rousting him from the sidewalk. He wonders what he will eat.

"It's bad enough being 55 and clean and unemployed," Meyers said. "Can you imagine being dirty and unemployed? There's no going back from that."
 
Republicans ain't got shit to say to this, it seems.

Other board liberals aren't even thinking about it... :rolleyes:
 
maybe social well fare is not such a bad idea after all ??
What we need is to stop sending jobs overseas. If we tariff the low wage nations and force companies to produce here what they sell here, we don't need as much welfare.

Fortunately most Americans now want to see that happen.
 
Note that LJ isnt inviting anyone home to live with him.
 
Note that LJ isnt inviting anyone home to live with him.
You have zero idea of my charitable activities. I've got lease-to-own homes - more than one, in fact - and I donate to homeless shelters and occasionally volunteer at them.

I'm also trying to find ways communities can provide their own jobs since your corporate masters have set America's workers adrift.

Now go back and suck off your medicare old coot.
 
I suspect your charity has 5 fingers and starts at home!
 
You have zero idea of my charitable activities. I've got lease-to-own homes - more than one, in fact - and I donate to homeless shelters and occasionally volunteer at them.

I'm also trying to find ways communities can provide their own jobs since your corporate masters have set America's workers adrift.

Now go back and suck off your medicare old coot.
I see that your volunteer time isn't cutting in to your GB posting time.
 
Republicans ain't got shit to say to this, it seems.

Other board liberals aren't even thinking about it... :rolleyes:

wtf do you expect anyone to say?

ok how about this: this poor sap should have taken a personal inventory LONG before he found himself a 55 yr old bartender
 
Ah yes, collectivism is wrong. Except when it suits their purpose.

collectivism:
Despite the claimed horror at 'collectivism', libertarians share the general liberal preference for collective forms of decision-making - above all, the market.

wtf do you expect anyone to say?

ok how about this: this poor sap should have taken a personal inventory LONG before he found himself a 55 yr old bartender
See, this is where you fail mathematics.

Read this very slowly:

There are 5 applicants out there for every available job.

Now go ask a math tutor: how many people, given those statistics, must go unemployed?

Answer: 4 out of every 5. There is nothing whatsoever that those 4 out of 5 unemployed people can or ever WILL do to get a job - because for 4 out of 5 people a job does not exist.

If every American has every known skill in the world, completely maxxed out, 4 out of 5 will still have no job.

Is this clear enough to you or do I need to draw it out in crayon?

(Everyone note Pete won't be back to this...)
 
Ah yes, collectivism is wrong. Except when it suits their purpose.




See, this is where you fail mathematics.

Read this very slowly:

There are 5 applicants out there for every available job.

Now go ask a math tutor: how many people, given those statistics, must go unemployed?

Answer: 4 out of every 5. There is nothing whatsoever that those 4 out of 5 unemployed people can or ever WILL do to get a job - because for 4 out of 5 people a job does not exist.

If every American has every known skill in the world, completely maxxed out, 4 out of 5 will still have no job.

Is this clear enough to you or do I need to draw it out in crayon?

(Everyone note Pete won't be back to this...)

no, fool
HE failed, because he put himself in a position where he was lumped in with the unskilled masses, instead of increasing his odds by getting a better education and/or training in his 20's or 30's.

i was out of work from august 2010 to november 2010. why so short a time? because i was smart enough to go to school in my 20's and switch from a dead-end sales job to a career that is valuable, and would increase my ability to be employed no matter what
 
no, fool
HE failed, because he put himself in a position where he was lumped in with the unskilled masses, instead of increasing his odds by getting a better education and/or training in his 20's or 30's.

i was out of work from august 2010 to november 2010. why so short a time? because i was smart enough to go to school in my 20's and switch from a dead-end sales job to a career that is valuable, and would increase my ability to be employed no matter what
Again, you fail math.

5 people are competing for every 1 job. Please explain to us how all 5 people are going to get a job.
 
Again, you fail math.

5 people are competing for every 1 job. Please explain to us how all 5 people are going to get a job.

Once businesses start hiring? That's where things get complicated and where the huge debates begin. Does the government throw trillions into the system hoping to kickstart things, or does the government get out of the way, and let things go as they may?

Putting the high brow politics aside, Joe Schmoe looks for work. As much as I feel sorry for the guy, and do not wish that on anybody, unemployment benefits cannot last forever.

Oh, and one more thing. Somebody on C-Span asked one question. The United States has to be competitive in the world. That means competing with slave labor? That made me think twice about a few things.
 
LJ

Good point! Many people vie for every available position. We dont officially count 99ers, high school and college grads, discharged military, and folks returning to work cuz of whatever (jail?). So about 1/2 arent counted. If youre not on unemployment youre not part of the number.
 
Again, you fail math.

5 people are competing for every 1 job. Please explain to us how all 5 people are going to get a job.

and you fail comprehension of economic theory in its entirety

1:5 is not an absolute statistic for every fucking job in every fucking field, dipshit.

you can increase your odds based on factors such as careers, education and training. if this poor fucker had done so long ago, his odds would have been much better than 1:5

there has never been, nor will there E V E R be full employment, in any country, at any time. there will always be more applicants than openings.
 
Once businesses start hiring? That's where things get complicated and where the huge debates begin. Does the government throw trillions into the system hoping to kickstart things, or does the government get out of the way, and let things go as they may?

Putting the high brow politics aside, Joe Schmoe looks for work. As much as I feel sorry for the guy, and do not wish that on anybody, unemployment benefits cannot last forever.

Oh, and one more thing. Somebody on C-Span asked one question. The United States has to be competitive in the world. That means competing with slave labor? That made me think twice about a few things.

We do compete with slave labor, at least convict labor, and our wages include a hidden standard of living tax. In America you and the kids cant sleep under a wagon and shit in the weeds. In Vietnam its the norm.
 
We do compete with slave labor, at least convict labor, and our wages include a hidden standard of living tax. In America you and the kids cant sleep under a wagon and shit in the weeds. In Vietnam its the norm.

It is easier to send the jobs to a Vietnam, China, or India. Less regulation, cheap labor, and all the rest of it.
 
The labor market has polarized. Highly paid analytical/managerial jobs requiring a lot of education, and poorly paid service sector jobs.

The bottom has fallen out of the middle sector---sales, admin, manufacturing and production-- and isn't coming back. If you look at the graph that shows where the job growth is, it looks like a big letter "U".

At some point in the future, we'll start to see the "proletarianization of the white collar worker" as professional jobs are outsourced or replaced with expert systems, but for now, the best thing we could do would be to organize the service sector.

There's a reason that WalMart has a no-tolerance policy for organising, and a special union-busting strike force on 24-7 alert. They recognise the potential of a labor movement in their sector and don't intend to let it gather any momentum, and that shows sound judgement on their part.
 
and you fail comprehension of economic theory in its entirety

1:5 is not an absolute statistic for every fucking job in every fucking field, dipshit.
There are 5 people fighting for every job out there. For 4 out of 5 people it is impossible to get work. No matter WHAT skill they learn, 4 out of 5 people will remain without a job. No statistical rule defies this fact.

You fail math. Again.

Oh and we used to have what's called an EMPLOYEE's market - where there were more jobs than workers. So now you also fail history!
 
Yeah, he runs a soup kitchen, buys electric cars for his many employees, while managing his vast business enterprises. He adopts African orphans, and provides for the poor, all from his rancho in the foothills of the Sierra.

I was thinking more along the lines of him helping keep Bolivian cocaine harvesters and cookers and transporters busy, plus the DEA and local cops. I imagine this one man keeps 100s employed all by himself.
 
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