Ulaven_Demorte
Non-Prophet Organization
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There is a fundamental difference between the activist who wants to end social injustice through equality and those who want to end social injustice through revenge.
The equality activist seems to believe that no-one should be abused or treated as less than and so works to make sure that everyone is treated the same regardless. The "oppressor", no matter who that may be, is not a WHO, but the behavior that needs to be eliminated. For example: working to ensure that all people have an equal opportunity to affordable housing regardless of sex, sexual orientation, age, race.. et al.
The latter seems to believe that treating the "oppressor", whoever that may be, as the enemy to be somehow made to pay for their oppression of their group. even if and when the offenders were distant ancestors of the "oppressor" Many times they end up engaged in exactly the same type of offensive behavior that has been directed at them. Ethnic jokes about black people, Indians (from India), Native Americans, Hispanics, gays, etc.. are offensive, but joking about white people is just fine, because they are the "oppressors", all of them.
They tend to single out not just the behavior that needs to be eliminated, but insist that all members of their target group are responsible for the actions of a relative few and should be apologetic at the very least for behavior that they neither condone nor engage in.
How the "revenge activist" can continually speak out about being color-blind and gender blind while continually bashing white people, men, or the mother lode jackpot white men (all conditions completely out of the control of their target) without feeling a very sharp pang of hypocrisy after complaining about being singled out and discriminated against because of something they can't control (race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.) I can't begin to fathom.
Yes, our European ancestors sailed to America and stole your native land through the cunning use of flags (and guns), marginalized your people, intentionally brought them disease, killed, raped your women (and probably some of the men), and mutilated your children.
Yes, our early American ancestors enslaved your people, brought them over to toil in the fields as property. Often abusing, raping, and killing them at a whim.
But those ancestors, every last one of them are dead and gone. Their progeny should not be asked to pay for the sins of the great great grand fathers and mothers.
Yes, SOME men have treated women badly, acted as if they were less than, as property. They have held them back from positions of leadership intentionally and made light of the accomplishments of more than a few by acting as if the only reason they advanced was because they were promiscuous. But attempting to pigeon-hole the entire male population as rapists and abusers is not going to advance your cause. All you're doing is alienating those who would be your allies by lumping them in with the minority.
The equality activist seems to believe that no-one should be abused or treated as less than and so works to make sure that everyone is treated the same regardless. The "oppressor", no matter who that may be, is not a WHO, but the behavior that needs to be eliminated. For example: working to ensure that all people have an equal opportunity to affordable housing regardless of sex, sexual orientation, age, race.. et al.
The latter seems to believe that treating the "oppressor", whoever that may be, as the enemy to be somehow made to pay for their oppression of their group. even if and when the offenders were distant ancestors of the "oppressor" Many times they end up engaged in exactly the same type of offensive behavior that has been directed at them. Ethnic jokes about black people, Indians (from India), Native Americans, Hispanics, gays, etc.. are offensive, but joking about white people is just fine, because they are the "oppressors", all of them.
They tend to single out not just the behavior that needs to be eliminated, but insist that all members of their target group are responsible for the actions of a relative few and should be apologetic at the very least for behavior that they neither condone nor engage in.
How the "revenge activist" can continually speak out about being color-blind and gender blind while continually bashing white people, men, or the mother lode jackpot white men (all conditions completely out of the control of their target) without feeling a very sharp pang of hypocrisy after complaining about being singled out and discriminated against because of something they can't control (race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.) I can't begin to fathom.
Yes, our European ancestors sailed to America and stole your native land through the cunning use of flags (and guns), marginalized your people, intentionally brought them disease, killed, raped your women (and probably some of the men), and mutilated your children.
Yes, our early American ancestors enslaved your people, brought them over to toil in the fields as property. Often abusing, raping, and killing them at a whim.
But those ancestors, every last one of them are dead and gone. Their progeny should not be asked to pay for the sins of the great great grand fathers and mothers.
Yes, SOME men have treated women badly, acted as if they were less than, as property. They have held them back from positions of leadership intentionally and made light of the accomplishments of more than a few by acting as if the only reason they advanced was because they were promiscuous. But attempting to pigeon-hole the entire male population as rapists and abusers is not going to advance your cause. All you're doing is alienating those who would be your allies by lumping them in with the minority.